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#41237 by Starfish Scott
Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:20 pm
I completely agree with Crip. WTF are you thinking, kid?

If it was so easy, we'd all be snapping our fingers and whining like a kid that just lost his lolly.

FACT IS, if you want to meet people that play, I'd suggest you go play in a few open mics. There will be people there etc. MAKE YOUR OWN BREAKS>.

And I can tell you, if you came off this whiny in person, I'd leave you there.

#41268 by gbheil
Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:19 am
Yea , take it from a Christian rocker, God aint going to help you till you get off your ass and help yourself.
Seek and ye shall find ya know. Seek is a verb, action word!
No one said it was easy. And if it was it would be a waste of time.
It took us three years to get to this point with our band. And we are not going to look back. Ever!

#41320 by Cblakemoreiii
Tue Sep 16, 2008 2:16 pm
sanshouheil wrote:Yea , take it from a Christian rocker, God aint going to help you till you get off your ass and help yourself.
Seek and ye shall find ya know. Seek is a verb, action word!
No one said it was easy. And if it was it would be a waste of time.
It took us three years to get to this point with our band. And we are not going to look back. Ever!


That's what I'm TRYING to do, but let me reiterate!

I DON'T want to PLAY in public yet. Whether with a band or solo! I need to get with a group of friends, improve the songs that I'm having trouble with, THEN get out there.

There aren't very many places in Baton Rouge that do Open Mic nights. The ONLY place I know of is North Gate Tavern, and that's a bar. I don't do bars.

I'm not interested in getting a big break. I'm just looking for some friends to get together with on a weekend afternoon or evening to jam to some pop, adult contemporary, soft rock, and adult alternative pop/rock.

I CANNOT go to ANY Open Mic Nights because I CANNOT drive, and my parents DON'T go to bars. They don't know ANYTHING about music, and I don't have ANY other way of getting there. My parents would think I'm nuts if I went out to an Open Mic Night by taxi. I don't want to look that way.

I want to form this friendship band the smart way, by meeting the musicians through school.

Again, I am NOT a kid. Read my profile. I am 24 years old. A kid is from ages 1-17.

Look, I'm sorry for sounding whiny, but I'm trying to express EXACTLY what I'm looking for. I've ALREADY got a plan and EVERYTHING.

Again, I'm not ready to perform in public and I don't have ANY friends who can actually take me to an Open Mic Night. I'm also NOT good enough to play at a church.

I need to simply get with a group of guys who enjoy playing pop, soft rock, adult contemporary, and adult alternative pop/rock.

Stop treating me like a jerk, OK?

I really am a nice guy. I'm telling you EXACTLY where I stand, WHERE I can go, and what I have to work with. I am NOT whining.

I'm telling you that I'm running out of options. I can't find a place where I can meet other musicians without having to get on stage to perform.

I don't need advice. What I need is some more ad postings to try, or maybe introduce me to someone who can help me reach someone in Baton Rouge who can help.

I'm doing the BEST I can. I don't want to perform yet, unless a friend can take me. I don't have ANY friends who can take me to such places.

I don't know why I even bother. You guys just treat me like dirt anyway.

Why don't you just give me a kiss, have me arrested, beat me, mock me, then crucify me?

#41322 by Starfish Scott
Tue Sep 16, 2008 2:20 pm
You forgot "remove your ability to whine online".

At 24 you are still a child, jr. Everything you say reinforces your inexperience and your inability to play.

You know what the difference between an amateur and someone who isn't pro yet? THEY AT LEAST TRY INSTEAD OF SITTING THERE CRYING ABOUT IT.

And if you don't want to do bars, I'd say your screwed unless you are playing at church. (Run Pastor, this child is a train wreck)

#41324 by Cblakemoreiii
Tue Sep 16, 2008 2:27 pm
sanshouheil wrote:Yea , take it from a Christian rocker, God aint going to help you till you get off your ass and help yourself.
Seek and ye shall find ya know. Seek is a verb, action word!
No one said it was easy. And if it was it would be a waste of time.
It took us three years to get to this point with our band. And we are not going to look back. Ever!


Is your band based on friendship or is it based on something else?

This band I'm forming has NOTHING to do with the music business, or performing.

All I'm searching for are three guys to jam with on a weekend afternoon or evening at someone's house.

Whether this band actually does shows, and makes it big, that's not the point. The point is that I would have three friends to call my brothers who enjoy playing some great pop, adult contemporary, and soft rock. And that we could do that ANYTIME

Also I NEVER said that I want this to be easy. I just said why couldn't this be easier? By that, I mean, why couldn't Baton Rouge Community College have a rock music club? Why couldn't there be a store that also puts bands together for both commercial and friendship purposes? Something to make it a little easier for me to talk to other musicians who are in the same boat as me. That's all I meant.

Again, I am DOING the BEST I can. I just want to find a place where I can simply talk to other musicians, mingle around until I meet someone who likes to play pop, adult contemporary, adult alternative pop/rock, and soft rock.

I'm not good enough yet to play at an Open Mic Night or church. Why? Because I play selected songs from the 80s, 90s, and 2000s and most need chords put with them, and I'm having trouble.

Why would I be looking for musicians who are a bit more skilled and more knowledgeable about music theory?

These are my best songs:

Like A Prayer by Madonna
Don't Mean Nothing by Richard Marx
The Way You Make Me Feel by Michael Jackson
Don't Wait by Dashboard Confessional
Silver Springs by Fleetwood Mac

Those are my best songs. At North Gate Tavern, the last time I performed songs like those, I got applause and everything, but NOBODY came up to me.

I tried the SAME thing at Baton Rouge Community College, and STILL nothing.

I'm tired of working so hard. No, I don't want it to fall in my lap, but I would like this to be a bit easier. I don't know, it would be nice if I could meet somebody who I can network with, or maybe talk with a band and network with them. I mean, usually musicians hang out with other musicians. I mean, think about it this way, Madonna. She probably knows a LOT of musicians a lot of which have worked with Richard Marx, who in turn has worked with Lionel Richie, who has worked with...well, you get the idea.

Same way with Amy Grant, she has worked with Michael W. Smith.

Why can't I find something like that but at the beginner or intermediate level?

I've been trying to put this band together for about 3 years now. I need something new to try. Of course, I need something that will be reasonable, and something that I can do during the day, and a friendly place where my parents would feel comfortable dropping me off. Bars are OUT of the question. I don't feel comfortable being at a bar by myself because most are dimly lit, and are trashy places. I want to get guys who enjoy playing some of those artists mentioned above, both the Christian and secular artists.

Friendship is first and foremost in this band. If we make it big, great. If we don't that's still great because we have each other.

Clifford
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#41326 by Starfish Scott
Tue Sep 16, 2008 2:34 pm
LOL Are you slow as well as blind?

The answer is easy and one that many use.

CONVINCE your siblings to form a band... Who knows maybe you'll replace Miley Cyrus on the Disney channel.

#41327 by Kramerguy
Tue Sep 16, 2008 2:39 pm
This topic has become painful to read.

#41332 by Cblakemoreiii
Tue Sep 16, 2008 3:08 pm
Kramerguy wrote:This topic has become painful to read.


Why? I am NOT whining. I'm telling EVERYBODY what I have to work with.

See? You're mocking me. Be helpful. Introduce me to someone who can help.

If I knew of some decent places where I can go, and where I'd feel comfortable, don't you think I'd actually be there by now?

Come on, I need some advice from people right here in Baton Rouge.

Again, I'm telling you, the music I play is NOT fit for church, so that's out, and the ONLY Open Mic I know of is North Gate Tavern by LSU. That's out, because I tried it there, I didn't like the bar atmosphere, and the audience wasn't geared to the style I was playing. Most of the audience members were drinkers. I DON'T want heavy drinkers in my band.

Stop trying to crucify me. Start being a bit more helpful.

I wouldn't have put my heart on the line if I wasn't running out of options. Come on, I need to meet more musicians who are starting bands for friendship purposes, and who want to start out by jamming.

I'm not playing in public yet, PERIOD! I'm NOT good enough. Plus, I'd need to play my covers in a place where there are other young adult guys who are into pop, adult contemporary, soft rock, and adult alternative pop/rock.

Will someone do the right thing and help? Someone from Baton Rouge, please?

#41333 by Cblakemoreiii
Tue Sep 16, 2008 3:17 pm
Capt. Scott wrote:LOL Are you slow as well as blind?

The answer is easy and one that many use.

CONVINCE your siblings to form a band... Who knows maybe you'll replace Miley Cyrus on the Disney channel.


I don't HAVE any siblings. I'm NOT interested in replacing anybody! I want to jam with friends in the privacy of a bandroom.

Again, stop trying to crucify me.

Ok, so I do have a sister, but she's married and lives in Boston. All my cousins have grown up as well, and most ARE NOT musicians.

I am NOT slow. I am actually a very fast learner. I also have wisdom. I mean, think about what I'm typing.

Most bars in Baton Rouge are not going to cater to light rock music. I cannot go downtown because that is TOO far to go and my parents are ALWAYS tired.

Again, this band I'm forming is NOT about making it big, being popular, making money or ANYTHING worldly. It's about friendship. Hanging with three close friends who are ALL guys who enjoy listening to and playing pop, adult contemporary, adult alternative rock, and soft rock at a friend's house.

Again, whether the band does shows or not, doesn't matter. The hard part here is finding a place where I can meet THOSE kinds of people. Zeagler doesn't have ANYTHING like that, Guitar Center doesn't offer anything, BRCC doesn't have anything, and North Gate Tavern is a dud.

I want to mingle with other musicians. I'm trying to see if someone on here can come up with something, and stop treating me like dirt.

#41334 by philbymon
Tue Sep 16, 2008 3:22 pm
I don't want to crucify you. Then you'd be sticking up for ppl to see & hear. I think I'd rather bury you & forget you.

If you need friends, bub, go out & try being friendly. You ain't getting anyplace with this crapola o/l. Isn't that obvious?

Talk to the lil cutie at the grocery store, or the guy that does volunteer work at your church, or ppl from your school.

Whatever you do, stop this thread! If I lived in your area & saw this, I'd be laughing at you just like I am here in WV.

You can always come up with a gazillion reasons why things won't work out for you, while you while away the hours pouting about how hard you're trying. Get offa yer butt & do something for yourself.

One thing is for sure. You've motivated me to go & work on my chops rather than sit here & read any more of your drama.

Thank you for that.

Toodles, LOSER!

#41335 by Cblakemoreiii
Tue Sep 16, 2008 4:04 pm
philbymon wrote:I don't want to crucify you. Then you'd be sticking up for ppl to see & hear. I think I'd rather bury you & forget you.

If you need friends, bub, go out & try being friendly. You ain't getting anyplace with this crapola o/l. Isn't that obvious?

Talk to the lil cutie at the grocery store, or the guy that does volunteer work at your church, or ppl from your school.

Whatever you do, stop this thread! If I lived in your area & saw this, I'd be laughing at you just like I am here in WV.

You can always come up with a gazillion reasons why things won't work out for you, while you while away the hours pouting about how hard you're trying. Get offa yer butt & do something for yourself.

One thing is for sure. You've motivated me to go & work on my chops rather than sit here & read any more of your drama.

Thank you for that.

Toodles, LOSER!


Bro, I am TRYING to be friendly. You just keep coming back with hurtful responses, and you keep calling me a LOSER!

If you knew me at all, you would change your tune.

I'm not talking to some cutie at a grocery store, or talking to some volunteer workers at my church. THEY are NOT going to help me with the music side of things!

I want to have some musician friends.

You are one CRUEL dude. You are talking about me being whiny, well, LOOK at what you just wrote. That's HURTFUL!

It's guys like you who MAKE me look whiny, and who make me look helpless!

I'm trying to do the BEST I can with what I've got. If you knew exactly where I lived and the loving parents that I have, you would understand why they don't go to bars, and you'd understand why I don't want to go to bars by myself!

I am going to college. I've put up flyers at the school. I'm going to The Annex of Healing Place Church, but the catch to this is that THEY will NOT accpet songs like Like A Virgin, The Way You Make Me Feel, Right Here Waiting, The Secret's In The Telling, and other great secular pop hits.

I am trying to be friendly, but you're making it all the more harder to be friendly to you.

I mean, if you would have simply said, "Cliff, I know a guy who can help, here's his Myspace page or something." That would have done the trick.

Be a little nicer bro, and I won't look so angry, or whiny. Try to understand the kind of band I'm forming, and understand what you're working with.

I'm not just going to go out to some bar and play some songs, because I need to play in front of an audience of young adult GUYS who like the styles I'm going to play. Since I'm legally blind, it's ALL the more harder for me.

I will not end this post until someone gives me something I can actually use.

I mean, if you don't want to help, your loss. I'm a really nice guy if you wouldv'e given me a chance, and actually read and truly understood what I'm trying to find.

I'm just a guy who plays along to his favorite songs in his CD collection on his keyboard.

In most cases, I play vocal lines and the underlying chords in songs.

I'm trying to make friends at BRCC, but there aren't very many musicians to mingle with there. I've been to Guitar Center and to Zeagler to put up flyers. No luck!

I've went to North Gate Tavern two times! NONE of them are into light rock music!

I've tried performing at Baton Rouge Community College, same results as with North Gate Tavern!

If you people would take a minute to understand, maybe I wouldn't be so angry.

If I could just get someone from Baton Rouge on here who's also in the same boat, maybe I wouldn't be hollering at y'all.

I mean, legally blind guys will need some kind of dependence on something. That means I'll need a ride.

I'm not going to bars, at least NOT alone. Until I get a friend who can take me, then I CANNOT do that. There's a difference between CAN'T, DON'T and WON'T!

When I say CAN'T, I mean, I don't have the ability to do that. Something is preventing me from doing that. I am NOT making up excuses.

I need a ride if I need to go somewhere. I don't have access to a bus system and taxi cabs are expensive! I'd rather have a friend or my parents drive me.

I CAN'T do Open Mic Nights because I don't know of ANY other places that cater to light rock music. If it doesn't cater to light rock music, then I CAN'T do it!

My parents don't like to get out when traffic is heavy and they would say that they can't drive me downtown unless there felt comfortable dropping me off there, and it was a friendly place, and not just leaving me at a bar where I could get beaten up. I want to go to places where more young adults guys hang out.

How many times do I have to explain myself?

I am very friendly, give me a chance. Be a friend and help me out. Not advice, but rather introduce me to someone who can help.

I'm trying to make friends, but I'm stuck! I need advice from other people in Baton Rouge who know of more music places to go to.

I mean, this was such a place, but where are the ones who are like me? The ones who are also playing by themselves, but would like to get with someone who enjoys playing light rock music?

I mean, stop being mean. Give me a chance to show my friendly side.

#41337 by Cblakemoreiii
Tue Sep 16, 2008 4:12 pm
philbymon wrote:I don't want to crucify you. Then you'd be sticking up for ppl to see & hear. I think I'd rather bury you & forget you.

If you need friends, bub, go out & try being friendly. You ain't getting anyplace with this crapola o/l. Isn't that obvious?

Talk to the lil cutie at the grocery store, or the guy that does volunteer work at your church, or ppl from your school.

Whatever you do, stop this thread! If I lived in your area & saw this, I'd be laughing at you just like I am here in WV.

You can always come up with a gazillion reasons why things won't work out for you, while you while away the hours pouting about how hard you're trying. Get offa yer butt & do something for yourself.

One thing is for sure. You've motivated me to go & work on my chops rather than sit here & read any more of your drama.

Thank you for that.

Toodles, LOSER!


I would get off of my butt if I knew where to go to meet other musicians like me in my city!

I mean, THINK about what you're saying. I am DOING the BEST I can. I need someone who can help. I'm not having ANY luck with what I'm doing so far.

If my parents were more musically inclined, I might have more luck!

But most of the music I play is NOT suited for a church, so playing in a church band is moot, and I also don't know too much about places where other young adults guys go to play and where MUSICIANS hang out, who DON'T drink, smoke, or do drugs. I'm NOT after that audience.

That's why I need someone to respond who lives in Baton Rouge.

I'm just trying to reach the correct audience!

#41338 by Cblakemoreiii
Tue Sep 16, 2008 4:15 pm
All you nay-sayers are NOT worth it.

Where are my supporters. The ones who REALLY want to help. Where are the ones who really want to see me succeed and find these bros to jam with, among doing other things?

That's all I'm after. I'm sorry for all the drama and everything.

#41340 by Cblakemoreiii
Tue Sep 16, 2008 4:25 pm
I have some friends. I've got that part covered. But I don't have ANY musician friends. I've been trying to network with them, but the friends I'm friends with don't know anybody who's musically inclined.

For example, I'm friends with Matt Evans, and he introduced me to a guy named Shawn, and well, he's too busy himself and he doesn't know anybody but the band that plays on stage every Thursday night. I need more than that. I need to go to place where musicians get together and talk. Not working/gigging musicians, but those who are just starting out. Those who want to start bands, and hang with friends.

If I knew some places in Baton Rouge to go, I WOULD go there. But I don't know of any places. I need someone who can actually introduce me to someone who can help. That's all I'm basically asking here. I didn't mean to spell everything out.

Can we just forget about this topic, and just let it die? Maybe I'll start a new topic geared to Baton Rouge people, and state my case a bit better.

I'm sorry, for everything.

#41349 by duckbrew1
Tue Sep 16, 2008 6:39 pm
OH my God dude you are more annoying than my wife. You did however give me a good laugh today which I needed!

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