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What kind of mixing tips?
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#35132 by Craig Maxim
Tue Jun 24, 2008 6:51 am
Tue Jun 24, 2008 6:51 am
LOL
Hey Ted,
I could REEEAAAALY use some dessert tonight!
Hey Ted,
I could REEEAAAALY use some dessert tonight!
See, that's where most ppl go wrong...you need to render the weed down into BUTTER 1st, & then add it to the brownie mix, rather than just use the weed.
2 lbs shake
1 lb butter
2-3 qts water
Put it all in a crock pot or roasting oven, cook at LOW temps for 2 days
Remove the shake
Let cool
Take the butter off the top of the water & measure for baking as usual
The THC will seek out the fat. It ain't the most tasty thing in the world, but it works. Hard to measure dosage though...heh heh heh
Good luck!
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Oh! did you mean music mixing?
That's a whole 'nuther subject. I'm no expert, but here's the little I can tell you:
When mixing, 1st look to have a good blend of volumes, just like a live situation - vocals up front...backup vocals just behind & roughly equal to or just under the lead instrument.
Experiment with tones & EQ settings until you get what you like for each instrument, & then check to see if they actually blend well - sometimes they don't at all in spite of your intial preferences, & you have to change one or more settings on more than one instrument. Working with this will give you a good ear for determining which instrument needs what type of tweaking.
When you have a particularly "busy" piece, panning the conflicting rhythms far left & right often helps.
Bring up the lead when it's appropriate for the lead break, but do it gradually in most cases where it's been playing along throughout the piece. Jumping the volume on any instrument can be jarring to the ear, although, in some instances, this is exactly what the song requires.
Be careful with the use of effects. This is the single most troublesome area for most beginners. Most ppl overdo it, & it sounds cheesy & overproduced. Start with a completely dry mix, then gradually add the effects until it sounds better, but still natural to your ear. Adding the effects last is the best way to go, imho. You can successfully "layer" the depth of each effect, as well. For example, the lead singer might have a touch of reverb or digital delay, while the drums have a bit more, and the guitar more, yet. It gives the effect that the individual parts are all in different places, yet all on the same recording. This makes the singer sound closer to the listener, & makes his message seem more intimate.
The best way to develop yourself in the area of mixing is to do it - a lot. Make 5 or 10 copies of the same recording, & mix them on different days from scratch. You'll see that, depending on your mood, you have come up with 5 or 10 different mixes, at 1st. Keep working at it until you develop the sound you prefer, & can be more consistent with from day to day.
Good luck.
2 lbs shake
1 lb butter
2-3 qts water
Put it all in a crock pot or roasting oven, cook at LOW temps for 2 days
Remove the shake
Let cool
Take the butter off the top of the water & measure for baking as usual
The THC will seek out the fat. It ain't the most tasty thing in the world, but it works. Hard to measure dosage though...heh heh heh
Good luck!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Oh! did you mean music mixing?
That's a whole 'nuther subject. I'm no expert, but here's the little I can tell you:
When mixing, 1st look to have a good blend of volumes, just like a live situation - vocals up front...backup vocals just behind & roughly equal to or just under the lead instrument.
Experiment with tones & EQ settings until you get what you like for each instrument, & then check to see if they actually blend well - sometimes they don't at all in spite of your intial preferences, & you have to change one or more settings on more than one instrument. Working with this will give you a good ear for determining which instrument needs what type of tweaking.
When you have a particularly "busy" piece, panning the conflicting rhythms far left & right often helps.
Bring up the lead when it's appropriate for the lead break, but do it gradually in most cases where it's been playing along throughout the piece. Jumping the volume on any instrument can be jarring to the ear, although, in some instances, this is exactly what the song requires.
Be careful with the use of effects. This is the single most troublesome area for most beginners. Most ppl overdo it, & it sounds cheesy & overproduced. Start with a completely dry mix, then gradually add the effects until it sounds better, but still natural to your ear. Adding the effects last is the best way to go, imho. You can successfully "layer" the depth of each effect, as well. For example, the lead singer might have a touch of reverb or digital delay, while the drums have a bit more, and the guitar more, yet. It gives the effect that the individual parts are all in different places, yet all on the same recording. This makes the singer sound closer to the listener, & makes his message seem more intimate.
The best way to develop yourself in the area of mixing is to do it - a lot. Make 5 or 10 copies of the same recording, & mix them on different days from scratch. You'll see that, depending on your mood, you have come up with 5 or 10 different mixes, at 1st. Keep working at it until you develop the sound you prefer, & can be more consistent with from day to day.
Good luck.
For mixing, I would use some music that you are familiar with and like to listen to thru your reference speakers. This always helps me kind of get a feel for levels of various instruments.
Play familiar music thru the speakers you are familiar with before you start mixing.
Always start with fresh ears, dont go out and listen to a live band and then come in and try to mix. Once your ears are blown give them a good nights rest and start over.
I try to listen to the music and figure out what the most important instrument is. It may be the bass, it may be a guitar line, it may be keyboards. Once I figure that out I try to make sure I dont bury that instrument in the mix. Being a guitarist I will ussually spread the rythym guitars left and right in the mix, if there is only one rythym guitar I will double it and pan a dry signal on one side and then about a 10-20 ms delayed signal to the other side. This will get that big thick sounding guitar sound.
Vocals in most popular music are the most important part of the music in my mind, this is what most listeners key into. Make sure the recorded vocal is smooth. I ussually use a compressor/limiter on myself when recording so my vocal lines are not going up and down in volume. I like to double vocal lines especially for chorus's, but also the verse lyrics, then you can bring the double line in at the end of vocal lines for effect or just to thicken it up some.
For mixdown I use mastering program in my recorder. It has compressor/limiter built in, with a sonic maximixer type eq that kind of adds sparkle to the mix.
My biggest hangup recording is drums. I used to wonder when I was an intern why guys took hours and hours to record drums, well they wanted to get it just right. It takes a lot of patience, something I dont have much of.
If you are recording a singer who is not so good you can lay on the effects and try to make him sound better. I dont like pitch correction and moving the vocals around but those are options. If your singer is bad you can bury him or her a little bit in the mix. If you have pro tools and you get a good chorus vocal in the middle of a bunch of chorus, you can cut and paste it whereever you want. I have a buddy who has a little studio and he does this all the time.
This got a little long, once you get a good mix go listen to it in your car. Then listen to similiar music on the radio and see if your level is hot enough. These days most songs on the radio are compressed and limited to the point they just jump out of the speakers. Make sure your music sounds like it belongs on the radio. Listen at a high volume level and compare to the radio, then listen at a medium level, then listen at a low level. SOme stereos have those bass boosters, kick it in and make sure your bass level is not too hot.
Good Luck, just try to mix a final product that you are proud of and you should do well.
Play familiar music thru the speakers you are familiar with before you start mixing.
Always start with fresh ears, dont go out and listen to a live band and then come in and try to mix. Once your ears are blown give them a good nights rest and start over.
I try to listen to the music and figure out what the most important instrument is. It may be the bass, it may be a guitar line, it may be keyboards. Once I figure that out I try to make sure I dont bury that instrument in the mix. Being a guitarist I will ussually spread the rythym guitars left and right in the mix, if there is only one rythym guitar I will double it and pan a dry signal on one side and then about a 10-20 ms delayed signal to the other side. This will get that big thick sounding guitar sound.
Vocals in most popular music are the most important part of the music in my mind, this is what most listeners key into. Make sure the recorded vocal is smooth. I ussually use a compressor/limiter on myself when recording so my vocal lines are not going up and down in volume. I like to double vocal lines especially for chorus's, but also the verse lyrics, then you can bring the double line in at the end of vocal lines for effect or just to thicken it up some.
For mixdown I use mastering program in my recorder. It has compressor/limiter built in, with a sonic maximixer type eq that kind of adds sparkle to the mix.
My biggest hangup recording is drums. I used to wonder when I was an intern why guys took hours and hours to record drums, well they wanted to get it just right. It takes a lot of patience, something I dont have much of.
If you are recording a singer who is not so good you can lay on the effects and try to make him sound better. I dont like pitch correction and moving the vocals around but those are options. If your singer is bad you can bury him or her a little bit in the mix. If you have pro tools and you get a good chorus vocal in the middle of a bunch of chorus, you can cut and paste it whereever you want. I have a buddy who has a little studio and he does this all the time.
This got a little long, once you get a good mix go listen to it in your car. Then listen to similiar music on the radio and see if your level is hot enough. These days most songs on the radio are compressed and limited to the point they just jump out of the speakers. Make sure your music sounds like it belongs on the radio. Listen at a high volume level and compare to the radio, then listen at a medium level, then listen at a low level. SOme stereos have those bass boosters, kick it in and make sure your bass level is not too hot.
Good Luck, just try to mix a final product that you are proud of and you should do well.
"A winks as good as nod to a blind man"
Great points, jw.
Yeah, when you think you're done, check it all out on a cheesy sounding medium like a bad car stereo or a crappy little boom box, & see if you can hear all the instruments. It's quite a challenge, but if you can manage it, it may even work on FM.
Yeah, when you think you're done, check it all out on a cheesy sounding medium like a bad car stereo or a crappy little boom box, & see if you can hear all the instruments. It's quite a challenge, but if you can manage it, it may even work on FM.
Be careful with the use of effects. This is the single most troublesome area for most beginners. Most ppl overdo it, & it sounds cheesy & overproduced.
Best advise so far. I had a problem with this a while back, auditioned for a band, they had a nice recording setup and recorded every practice including my 1st audition (long story, but it didn't end well). Did a recording of a song I'd never heard, played guitar and sax, and did some nice 3 part sax parts during the chorus.
When I got the final mix the guy emailed me, my original clean strat through th3e Super Reverb cranked just enough to get some raunch was unrecognizable as the same guitar because of the excessive echo and he had put heavy chorus on it too. Then the 3 part sax section was barely audible in one place, only one part audible for the rest of the song and that was waaay in the background.
The whole thing had too much echo and reverb, sounded like chorus was on everything, the original really nice sounding recording was so crappy I won't play it for anyone. I've thought about doing some editing and posting part here, but I really don't want you guys to think I did that and was happy enough with it to play it in public...
Even though I'm a beginner at recording , I try to make sure I don't overdo the effects. The guy who made that recording kept chorus going on his amp all the time, no matter what, even if it didn't fit the song, so I guess that explains why he put chorus on my guitar, even though I originally played it just guitar and amp and wanted it to stay that way.
I ended up not joining the band, drummer didn't show up for the audition due to car trouble (legitimate) so I had to come back (35 miles) a couple of nights later for a second try. All 3 guys stayed on my case all night because I hadn't learned half their material already, in 4 nights, including a 3 hour drive to a gig Saturday with the band I was already in, then the drummer started telling me how to practice and learn songs. The more I thought about it the madder I got, finally decided I didn't want to get caught up in that mess, I knew I wouldn't get along with a drummer telling me how to practice when I'd been learning songs since before he was born...nor would I get along well with the other guys who knew I had an out of town gig and wouldn't have much time, I had even told them all I would be able to do was listen to the CD a few times and start to get familiar with some songs I didn't know yet.
And I didn't get a decent recording out of it either...what a waste of time...
Back on topic, be very careful to NOT overdo the effects, you can easily ruin a good recording just by using too much echo or reverb. Use effects to accent the music, not drown it.
I would say a little more in the way of context is needed here, rather than throwing out these astute answers.
What are you mixing exactly?
A live band?
your own recording project?
over
What are you mixing exactly?
A live band?
your own recording project?
over
Celtic, Hes doing a recording project for his boss, I think thats what was in another thread.
Im with Paleopete on the effects. What sounds great while you are mixing can get dated real quick.
Take a listen to a group like Power Station fromthe 80s, the sound, mix, effects is 80s.
Try to stay as dry as possible in your mixing, I like to think ahead and actually print the effects I want on the track ahead of time, just make sure its what you want, and then maybe some sort of room or plate reverb on the whole mix to give a little ambience.
A dab will do ya and go a long way. Its kind of like red pepper in chili, you keep putting it in until it just blows up on you. Take your mix right to that edge.
Im with Paleopete on the effects. What sounds great while you are mixing can get dated real quick.
Take a listen to a group like Power Station fromthe 80s, the sound, mix, effects is 80s.
Try to stay as dry as possible in your mixing, I like to think ahead and actually print the effects I want on the track ahead of time, just make sure its what you want, and then maybe some sort of room or plate reverb on the whole mix to give a little ambience.
A dab will do ya and go a long way. Its kind of like red pepper in chili, you keep putting it in until it just blows up on you. Take your mix right to that edge.
"A winks as good as nod to a blind man"
#35168 by Craig Maxim
Tue Jun 24, 2008 7:54 pm
Tue Jun 24, 2008 7:54 pm
jw123 wrote:Celtic, Hes doing a recording project for his boss, I think thats what was in another thread.
That was Ryan (screamo vocalist) recording his boss.
Hunter is working with Shredd6 on a cool acoustic song.
He probably needs to know how to mix his part in or mix it down?
#35170 by Shredd6
Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:12 pm
Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:12 pm
I'm not sure what he's working on. I'm not done with the guitars for our song yet.
I screwed up last night and lost everything I recorded for the bridge. I have to do it all over again tonight.
I screwed up last night and lost everything I recorded for the bridge. I have to do it all over again tonight.
when possible use no attenuation boost at all. this allows for minimum signal distortion. more attenuation creates more signal distotion. on typical mixers when individual channel volumes are close to maxed and still not enough try increasing master volume (requiring reduction of all other channel signals that are good). if signal still weak try increasing power amp wattage. if signal still weak now try attenuation (top nob improperly labeled 'gain' on some mixers). add slowly just untill red LED briefly flashes randomly. this problem is usually most common with mics that may need to be replaced with higher quality mics. my personal vocal mic is not the very best but for the four years i've been using shure beta87 i have never needed to use attenuation to boost the signal and at extreme volumes where many other mics can't perform due to feedback the 87 remains very clear, very clean, and very loud with close monitoring with the individual channel volume adjusted about one third of other mic channels. are you having any other specific problems?
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