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#34881 by Craig Maxim
Sat Jun 21, 2008 7:33 am
http://machinist.salon.com/blog/2008/06/19/apple_5_billion/

Salon.com


Apple's iTunes sells 5 billion songs, but you don't own them

Apple put out a press release (http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/06/19itunes.html) today announcing a milestone: The company has now sold more than 5 billion songs through iTunes.

To put that into perspective, if you pile 5 billion digital downloads atop each other, they'll form a tower tall enough to ... well, OK, it'll be a completely invisible tower, as digital downloads have no three-dimensional physical presence, but you get the idea. It's two or three road-trips' worth of music, at least.

But let's get back to this business of digital downloads lacking any physical presence. This idea -- the notion that music, now, is just math, just information floating about the ether -- turns out to be of some importance. Apple has sold us 5 billion songs, but do we really own that music?

Not most of it. People seem dimly aware of this, but it bears repeating: The vast majority of the songs we've bought through iTunes are gummed up with FairPlay, a digital-rights management scheme that Apple cooked up years ago to satisfy the recording industry.

FairPlay works like this: Every time you move your music to a new computer, iTunes calls up Apple's servers to request "authorization" to play the tracks. The trick works fine, usually, as long as you are abiding by Apple's restrictions.

But what if Apple's servers go down? Indeed, what if, at some point in the future, there is no Apple, or iTunes? Then you're stuck. That's the gamble of copy protection: Because your songs must phone home, they're not your songs, not really.

Why am I mentioning this now, raining on Apple's 5 billion parade? Because the concern is not hypothetical. Exhibit A: Customers of Microsoft's music store, which went online in 2004, and unceremoniously came down in 2006, are smarting over just this sort of thing.

In April, the company sent former customers an ominous notice. Microsoft had decided to shut down its authorization servers, meaning that people's songs would break after Aug. 31. The company recommended that they laboriously burn each of their tracks to audio CDs (a process that results in lower-quality digital tracks).

After an outcry, Microsoft announced yesterday that it has reconsidered its decision.

Now customers will have until 2011 to enjoy the music they purchased. But MSN customers are living on borrowed time. One day, Microsoft will power down its servers, and when songs call out for permission, they'll hear no response, and they won't play.

But this is true of all DRM-protected music, not just Microsoft's. ITunes and Apple don't look vulnerable now, but the tech industry changes fast. One day a company or a product seems invincible, the next it's curtains.

There's no reason to gamble: When you're looking for digital downloads, check out Amazon's superb MP3 store first. And if you must buy from Apple, make sure your track is labeled "iTunes Plus," which is Apple's way of saying it's free of copy protection. Your music shouldn't have to ask for permission.

#34884 by Shredd6
Sat Jun 21, 2008 8:07 am
Killer post Craig!!

That's why I'm still a CD buyer. I don't download s**t for music.

#34890 by HowlinJ
Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:54 pm
Yessir, Craig, :wink:
Thanks for another good topic.

I would just like to add, (and you can quote me on it)......
" music has no value unless somebody hears it" :wink:

As a Fathers Day gift, my oldest son (Howlin' Justin) bestowed upon me one of those Ipod type things that you recommended to me some time back. Awesome! I can now listen to your "It's No Crime" and One Day Broken's "Burn" and all kinds of other stuff that you can't buy at Wall-Mart, simply by plugging it into my truck cassette tape player adapter! Makes the drive to work more enjoyable. :D

Shreddin' Teddey,
In principal, I agree with you about buying legitimate CDs, assuring that the artist is compensated for the enjoyment that they provided you with.
In practice, however, I have to admit, that the first thing that I did with my new RCA Opal, is to download Jeska Hoop's "Intelelligentactile 101" I tried to buy her debut CD "Kismet" at Wal-mart, but when I asked if they had it, the young girl behind the counter looked at me like I had two heads. :cry:

Happy Solstice to all!
(gotta go now, got lots to do and its gonna' be a long day!)
Howlin'

#34894 by fisherman bob
Sat Jun 21, 2008 2:41 pm
When CD technology started up I was concerned that artists would lose millions, if not billions of dollars of revenue from pirating. We need to go back to the vinyl. Or come up with some way of producing CD's that can't be downloaded. I heard that the Chinese have a massive entertainment industry which for the most part is nothing but pirated movies and CD's, mainly from America. Later...

#34899 by mistermikev
Sat Jun 21, 2008 2:59 pm
"To put that into perspective, if you pile 5 billion digital downloads atop each other, they'll form a tower tall enough to ... well, OK, it'll be a completely invisible tower, as digital downloads have no three-dimensional physical presence, but you get the idea. It's two or three road-trips' worth of music, at least.
"
I like to think of it like this... you own the physical memory on your hard drive/ram... so why can't you simply organize your bits and bytes the way you want to?

that's the problem with trying to put finite controls on an infinite medium...

the zoon player 'features' no copyright protection and it plays wav...
the only thing they understand is the loss of your dollars... fight back.

#34900 by mistermikev
Sat Jun 21, 2008 3:02 pm
fisherman bob wrote:When CD technology started up I was concerned that artists would lose millions, if not billions of dollars of revenue from pirating. We need to go back to the vinyl. Or come up with some way of producing CD's that can't be downloaded. I heard that the Chinese have a massive entertainment industry which for the most part is nothing but pirated movies and CD's, mainly from America. Later...


u give me a record... if I wanna spend the money... I can copy it, remove the hiss, and put it on cd. ie that's no solution.
when home tape recorders came out ppul thought pirating was going to ruin sales as well... I'd wager that these "thoughts" aren't originating from the ppul for the most part... just an echo from the industry.

#34901 by mistermikev
Sat Jun 21, 2008 3:08 pm
"buying legitimate CDs, assuring that the artist is compensated for the enjoyment that they provided you with."

most artist make around 3 cents per cd... they make their real money at the concert, or with the t-shirt. I AM NOT ADVOCATING ILLEGAL DOWNLOAD: I don't agree with that either... I'm just pointing out what I see as the truth.

#34937 by philbymon
Sat Jun 21, 2008 9:12 pm
In point of fact, you never own the music you buy. You buy the right to listen to it at your leisure through the use of whatever machine it's designed to be played on.

The trouble with MSN & ipods is that the products you play the songs on is a bit shaky, but then again, so were the 8-track, the LP, the 45 & 78 & 16 rpm vinyls, not to mention cassette tapes, in the final analysis. There has never been a "forever" technology for playing your favorite music. These days, with the technology changing yearly or faster, it can only get worser, especially when they keep adding in those copy-protect thingies that keep you from moving the music you thought you bought into a product/software/hardware that you can use, as time rolls by, & technologies change.

We'll always have to keep buying the rights to play the stuff that way, unless we keep all the machines that played the stuff around our house. But that's how the music industry makes money, isn't it? By selling the music...again & again & again to the same consumer.

I think it's genius, from a business perspective.

A bit of a rip-off for the consumer, though, isn't it?

#34940 by Shredd6
Sat Jun 21, 2008 9:28 pm
mistermikev wrote:"buying legitimate CDs, assuring that the artist is compensated for the enjoyment that they provided you with."

most artist make around 3 cents per cd... they make their real money at the concert, or with the t-shirt. I AM NOT ADVOCATING ILLEGAL DOWNLOAD: I don't agree with that either... I'm just pointing out what I see as the truth.


Absolutely!! I spend more money on live performances than on anything else. I LOVE the live experience, that's where you get to see the bare bones of a band and what they're all about. The amount of money I spend on concerts far excedes the amount of money I spend on CD's.

I like Cd's for the whole package thing. I'm a little old school like that. I like seeing the artwork of the sleeves, a lot of times you get bonus tracks or DVD's. And a real CD is just more durable than the ones you burn music on. You barely breathe on one of those and they skip. And unlike what Craig was talking about, when I put it on my computer, it's mine. the loss of a server doesn't dictate whether I can hear it or not. If something happens to my computer, I still have the good 'ol CD.

Tool's last CD package was freakin incredible!! It's a whole 3D experience thing. Awesome.

#34943 by Shredd6
Sat Jun 21, 2008 9:45 pm
HowlinJ wrote:Yessir, Craig, :wink:
Thanks for another good topic.


Shreddin' Teddey,
In principal, I agree with you about buying legitimate CDs, assuring that the artist is compensated for the enjoyment that they provided you with.
In practice, however, I have to admit, that the first thing that I did with my new RCA Opal, is to download Jeska Hoop's "Intelelligentactile 101" I tried to buy her debut CD "Kismet" at Wal-mart, but when I asked if they had it, the young girl behind the counter looked at me like I had two heads. :cry:




Yea, I know man.. It is getting harder to find certain cd's these days. I went to a Target once to get the new Korn cd, and Target refused to sell Korn because of their lyrical content. And yet they had Snoop Dogg. At some point I know I'm gonna have to adapt to the new age, but I ain't doing it without a fight. Plenty of cd's on ebay. I still have a tape player in my truck as well man..

You should see my stereo.. It doesn't even play cd's or cassette. Just good clean fat radio!! (I'll post a picture later. I'm looking at getting a killer old tube portable radio on ebay as we speak.

Image

Now that's a freakin' radio!! The tones that come out of these things are heaven..
#34945 by Hayden King
Sat Jun 21, 2008 9:57 pm
hmmm. very interesting Craig. will definitly have to plant that for later use....I prefer Vinyl for quality sound..think it'll ever make a "real" comeback?

#34949 by The Hunter
Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:14 pm
f**k Ipods! :evil:

#34956 by gbheil
Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:51 pm
Spoke like a true Texan Huntman.
I own my LIVE music. NANNY NANNY BOO BOO!

#35014 by mistermikev
Sun Jun 22, 2008 3:18 pm
I hope I didn't sound like I was chastising anyone...
because I rarely go to concerts for big names like I should (unless it's rev horton heath or john hiatt)...

in my defense I do go watch the local act in a bar and make a point to throw down money on any street performer I see.

#35040 by gbheil
Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:51 pm
Sounds like all you need to do now is buy one of our T Shirts for total forgiveness of all your transgression. :lol:

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