General Music Chat

Irmy,
Thanks for the tip. I'll check those out tonight.
(right now I have to get back outside and enjoy the good weather were having)

Craig,
Yep, my ol' SY- 55 and SY-35 are midi stacked , and I run them direct into the sound system in stereo, and the 35 has a bitchin' Vector control joystick. It's my hope to soon get some decent live at rehearsal minidisc recordings. I'll try to get the Terminator posted . We found a good guitarist on Bandmix finally, and it certainly adds a hell of a lot to our sound.
Everybody knows that they heard it somewhere.

Howlin'

Throbbing Gristle anyone?
Loved Front 242 back in the day. "Hey poor! You don't have to be poor anymore!" "I'm a sinner. I deserve to go to hell." "No,no...no, no...no, no...NO - SEX - UNTIL - MARRIAGE!"

Bjork's Dancer in the Dark uses some industrial sounds, i.e. factory machinery. Isn't that what original industrial music consisted of, or at least mimicked with synths or other artificial noisemakers? (Not a knock against synth. I looooove the synth.)

Front 242 was great, but they were sort of Industrial lite. They were more elegant in their sound than most Industrial acts of the day.

Bjork's Dancer in the Dark uses some industrial sounds, i.e. factory machinery. Isn't that what original industrial music consisted of, or at least mimicked with synths or other artificial noisemakers? (Not a knock against synth. I looooove the synth.)

Björk.... ahh....

That's my girl.

God, I love psycho chicks!!!

Especially phenomenally talented ones!

I think it's far from an "umbrella", it has some specific treatments and cadances that mark it

I don't think you read the whole thread.

Yeah, I read it. I just disagreed with your summation of Industrial.

Plus, you've never played in that genre have you, Craig?

Yeah, I read it. I just disagreed with your summation of Industrial.

What do you disagree with? It's origins were artists on the label "Industrial Records" which is partly where the name comes from. It covered a diverse range of what was considered at the time, experimental music. I mentioned the common theme that runs through it, namely electronica oriented music, with noises incorporated, meant to express a modern, industrial machinery feeling.

Plus, you've never played in that genre have you, Craig?

No. But I went through a phase where I listened to alot of it. I still enjoy it.

Forgive my ignorance. I thought "Industrial" was just an inner city replacement for disco. During the hay day of Columbian cocain.
You know like just noise for people to "dance" to.
Done by (barff) DJ'S. (gagg) I dont know Ive ever seen or heard of a "Industrial" Band. Just a bunch of nummies jerkin around in the flashing lights. Spun off into cRap (notice I dont call it music) Shelterd are we in the forrest I guess.

Mmm, no. It grew to encompass alot of "flavors" and over time was not merely represented by the grinds and wheezes of large machinery. In fact bands like Front 242 made it more "elegant" with lofty synth lines and chord progressions. It was still considered "Industrial".

Craig that's nice that you listened to some, but really until you play it, write in the genre and really get down into the muck with it, it cannot simply be thrown into the bin with "machine music". The best of it is actually quite melodious and lyrical.

Mmm, no. It grew to encompass alot of "flavors" and over time was not merely represented by the grinds and wheezes of large machinery. In fact bands like Front 242 made it more "elegant" with lofty synth lines and chord progressions. It was still considered "Industrial".

Craig that's nice that you listened to some, but really until you play it, write in the genre and really get down into the muck with it, it cannot simply be thrown into the bin with "machine music". The best of it is actually quite melodious and lyrical.

Well, I appreciate your expertise on this genre, but now you seem to be arguing that it really is an umbrella for various branches of the genre, which are distinct. This was what I said earlier, and you disagreed. Now you seem to be arguing in favor of this.

Also, when did I claim it couldn't be melodious? That, in fact, was my point to another poster, when I said that it spans the gammut.

To me, like "Blues" is an umbrella term, for various and distinct styles of blues, like Delta Blues, British Blues, Texas Blues, etc... There are also distinct styles of Industrial music.

I guess I'm damned if I do, and damned if I don't? LOL

I dont know Ive ever seen or heard of a "Industrial" Band.

Never heard of Nine Inch Nails?

They are considered Industrial.

its fun to play and listen too wonder how fun it'd be to preform often for people who want every song every night

NIN are barely considered industrial, at least by those who listen to the underground stuff in the genre. Look for more of the pioneers of the genre, like Cabaret Voltaire, and other stuff like VNV Nation.

All this genre thing is really confusing. For instance I and many of my peers have always considered Texas Blues to be a sub genre of Classic Rock. Even BB King is considered a Rocker with his Blues style.
I guess being a musician means we have to complicate and compartmentalise every thing.
I,ve heard of NIN and probably heard them as well. But I generally just listen to music if I like it and turn it off if I dont. Paying little if any attention to who wrote it. Back in the 70's I could name bands, musicians songs and all that. So much all sounds the same anymore I guess I lost interest.

All this genre thing is really confusing. For instance I and many of my peers have always considered Texas Blues to be a sub genre of Classic Rock. Even BB King is considered a Rocker with his Blues style.
I guess being a musician means we have to complicate and compartmentalise every thing.
I,ve heard of NIN and probably heard them as well. But I generally just listen to music if I like it and turn it off if I dont. Paying little if any attention to who wrote it. Back in the 70's I could name bands, musicians songs and all that. So much all sounds the same anymore I guess I lost interest.

Well, I agree. Genres overlap. one leads to another, or is an offshoot of another. A song may be heavily blues influenced, but still be rockin' and get labelled as one or the other. Unfortunately, in America, we are more hung up on genres than Europe for example. In Europe, you go to a huge concert, and there may be rock bands sharing the stage with jazz bands and acoustic acts, and everyone is happy to hear good music. No one thinks it's odd there. Here it is rarely like that.