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#283620 by Planetguy
Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:37 pm
I'm writing here because I don't want this to get lost or buried in the shuffle of another thread.

Glen, you and I have a long history of going at one another. It's not my intention to open old wounds, nor revisit past campaigns on the battlefield.

As I see it, we've always been able to holster our weapons and stand down, reaching an armistice that only lasts awhile until the fireworks resume.

Obviously, we are both people w strong opinions who have the conviction and wherewithal to stand by and defend those opinions and views.

I suppose some see that as "stubborn", just as I also know that there will always those who misinterpret another's confidence for arrogance.

But to the issue of friendship and the love/hate thing....

I have never suffered from "trust issues".... I start off giving everyone the benefit of the doubt, trusting them UNTIL they do something UNTRUSTWORTHY.

And as soon as someone starts playing fast and loose with the truth....that's when they start to lose my trust.

I don't know about anyone else....but i have have a hard time being friends w anyone i DON'T trust.

No need to rehash things and the times where i've had problems with ...i don't want say your "lies"....so let's just say in a good natured way....i've had problems w your "alternative facts". :D

OK, maybe I should give just an example or two.... for example:

You saying that I want to "take away your guns away" after I've explained numerous times that I feel you, and all responsible people DO have the right to own a gun to protect your home and loved ones....that's you being LESS than honest.... as i see it.

Or, just recently when you challenged me to a bass duel because you said I'm "boastful"...again, that's LESS than honest as i have NEVER, not ONCE bragged about my skills. That just NEVER happened. So, anyone who says I boast about my skills is... uh.....put nicely.....NOT telling the truth. :wink:

Which brings me to this.....this business of you trying to paint me as "hating people"....I believe this originally started as gamesmanship and a "tactic" to paint me as some out of control, red faced, angry guy who's mad at the world...and you're still running w that.

Nothing could be further from the truth! Trust me when I say that there's NOBODY who knows me who wouldn't fall to the floor laughing at that gross mischaracterization of who i am, and what i'm about.

But still you continue with this silliness. Please, give it up already. It's less than honest, and well...it still comes of w a whiff of "gamesmanship" to me, even if that's not where you're coming from w it.

I've already said it enough times, but I'll say it this one last time hoping you'll hear me and move on....I don't hate you. i don't hate anyone on this site. Capiche?

As far as I know, there is only ONE person on this site who hates anyone here and has admitted to hating. But that isn't me.

Now, I'm all for moving forward w a kinder and more gentler forum. Less insults, and more tolerance. But that has to include honesty if there's to be the trust that's required for friendship.

Don't you agree?
#283627 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:29 pm
I have built a business based on honesty, integrity. !9 years of it. My biggest competitor is a massive company with large amounts of money on advertising.
I'm sorry man but when it was 5 degrees out and People with contracts with these major companies after finding out the PHONE LINES WERE CUT OFF. This is my competition. I do it on word of mouth of honesty and integrity.

I walk into some of this equipment where people are being told it is OK . AND IT'S NOT!
I am involved in a business that is so filled with lies and dishonesty.

I guess I am really picking on you for this...You keep insulting me over the one thing that my whole business is built on. 19 years of trust to owners of million dollar mansions ,and knowing that I know what I do.
Do you want to talk to some of them... Go on Angies list ... I NEVER WANTED TO GET INVOLVED IN IT, but I let my wife talk me into it. (that's a whole 'Nother story.)You want to see some of the people that love me ... because I never lied to them or was dishonest in any way.

When I tell someone it is $200 bucks... It's $200 bucks. Sorry man, After 62 years of doing gigs and running so many different businesses. Did I ever tell you about the time I had to push a bar owner to pay my band and the expenses involved with playing at his club. Funny story. Ask me about it sometime. That only cost me $200 bucks, but at least the band got paid.


I know I'm going around the corner to try and explain WHO THE HELL I AM.

I hope you start to understand that. I don't dislike anyone posting here.
#283628 by Planetguy
Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:08 pm
all due respect, Glen...you're off point here. i was talking about something specific...the dealings between YOU and I. Not you and your customers.

i didn't in anyway say, nor infer that you cheat your customers, or that you lie in your business dealings.

if you don't care to acknowledge that you HAVE been less than honest when you say i boast on this site, or that you are less than honest when you mischaracterize my views on gun control.... and other things such as me being a supporter and fan of that douchebag Anthony Weiner.... all to "win" some skirmish, well, that's a roadblock to the "friendship" and olive branch i want to believe you're sincerely holding out.... if you're gonna be less than truthful.

i've never done that with you....attributed views to you that i KNOW you don't hold. but let's face it...that IS something you have a history of doing w me. i'm asking you to simply play nice and leave that approach at the side of the road.

argue your points. make your case. but don't do it by mischaracterizing what i've said, or what i believe.

i'm sorry you got defensive in your reply above, glen.

perhaps you'll read it again if you care to, and see that i had no intention of insulting you. there was no name calling. no personal attacks. and i did not try to paint you as a hater.

as John Lennon said...."All I want is the truth! Just Give me some truth!" :D





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#283631 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:46 pm
I know I am going around the corner trying to explain WHO THE HELL I AM!!!

Sorry being the intelligent person you are ...

You really don't want to listen to me and my silliness?

What I wrote has every thing to do with you. Because , just because.

I fear you missed the whole point. Including the one you were trying make.

In all my silliness all I was doing was letting you know that I only hate ... Your hate...
#283632 by Planetguy
Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:00 am
Good grief.

so, the olive branch you were supposedly holding out was nothing more than Lucy once again yanking the football away. disappointing that you really aren't interested in more than continuing to play games.

thanks, but i think i'll "pass".
#283643 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:27 am
Musicians have to have the ability to listen. They also need to be creative, interpreting in their own way to make their music better.

In my opinion I believe you have those abilities. What you just posted Mark, is only showing me you have no intentions of using them in any manner or fashion in dealing with my "SILLINESS"

That's not an olive branch you offered... It is nothing more than a fishing trip, hoping that I would get down on my knees. You even insulted me in your "OLIVE BRANCH". OH... Did you read anything I posted?

I do hope you move into a kinder and more gentle forum. Less insults and more tolerance. You do that and I will be the first person to give you a big KUDOS...
Do you even know the person who introduced that word here? (it was chipfreyer, a very gentle soul with tremendous creative thoughts... I should give him a call to see if he is OK)... That seems like a long time ago.
#283664 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Fri Mar 02, 2018 10:36 am
Just to keep schemeddy happy. My latest pig story.
Pigs have an incredible sense and olfactory ability.
We had piggy out in the trails on a huge piece of private property that the owner graciously shares. Somewhere along this 2 mile trail some one dropped 4 chocolate M&Ms. Once piggy found one of them, he was on the hunt.

The funny part of this story is how fast he moved on to find the next M&M. When piggy couldn't find it immediately, because it was below the dirt, It was almost WAIT,WAIT,WAIT, I got this one....

Did I ever tell you about the time piggy found a piece of already been chewed gum? :lol: We thought it was an acorn. Twenty minutes later he was still chewing away.... UUUUMMMM... Peppermint . Of course when we realized what he found we tried to take it away... Little boy swallowed it.
We now have special piggy gum for a treat. He'll chew it for an hour before it mysteriously disappears .
YUM. :lol:
#283666 by schmedidiah
Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:16 pm
ANGELSSHOTGUN wrote:I have built a business based on honesty, integrity. !9 years of it. My biggest competitor is a massive company with large amounts of money on advertising.
I'm sorry man but when it was 5 degrees out and People with contracts with these major companies after finding out the PHONE LINES WERE CUT OFF. This is my competition. I do it on word of mouth of honesty and integrity.

I walk into some of this equipment where people are being told it is OK . AND IT'S NOT!
I am involved in a business that is so filled with lies and dishonesty.

I guess I am really picking on you for this...You keep insulting me over the one thing that my whole business is built on. 19 years of trust to owners of million dollar mansions ,and knowing that I know what I do.
Do you want to talk to some of them... Go on Angies list ... I NEVER WANTED TO GET INVOLVED IN IT, but I let my wife talk me into it. (that's a whole 'Nother story.)You want to see some of the people that love me ... because I never lied to them or was dishonest in any way.


i'm sure all of this would be relevant to someone, somewhere in the universe. your customers, perhaps? :roll:
#283734 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Fri Mar 02, 2018 10:12 pm
In my opinion schmeddy, I feel nothing but anger and hatred coming from you.

Not just at me but life in general. I am NOT GOING TO PICK APART SENTENCE BY SENTENCE,,, anything.

I hope you find a path...
#283737 by Planetguy
Fri Mar 02, 2018 10:54 pm
And more games played. Damn, Glen....you're running that transparent little pet tactic and strategy of your's right into the ground, aren't you?

Trying to paint your "opponent" as "angry" and "hateful".... Give that weak and tired BS up already. :roll:

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