General Chat (Non-Music-Related)

Did anyone else actually read all these articles Jeff linked?
If you did, you would have seen that none of them are denying that there is climatic change going on.

I don't know anyone who denies that?

And I don't know anyone who doesn't think we should do as much as possible to protect the environment....but that isn't enough for the "progressives" and most of us aren't stupid enough to fall for their attempt at theft and deception.

I'm sorry if you can't see through the agenda they really have, but many of us can.

If they weren't so dishonest about their true intent, we might be able to find common ground to move forward on environmental issues. However, as long as they continue lying and "adjusting" the data to come up with scenarios that aren't real, we will oppose ANY initiative they bring up.

They simply can not be trusted until they allow dissenting voices to be considered also.

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Thanks Ted...

"Dead flies in the ointment of the apothecary causeth it to send forth a stinking savor, so does a little bit of folly in a very wise man" - King Solomon.

“The public debate on climate needs now to shift focus to the fact that the basic science concept underlying current climate projections by the UN [Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change] IPCC and other international bodies is physically flawed,” Nikolov added, saying the new findings require a “fundamental overhaul of climate science” and that Earth may be heading for a cooling period.

“This is what the data shows,” he said. “We didn’t start with a theory, we started with the data, which is the opposite of how the greenhouse theory came about.”


Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2017/07/study-blows- ... C4w65If.99




I must admit that I've been burned by reposting articles from WND because in their rush to get a story out they, like CNN, sometimes don't get the facts right.

However, here they are posting an interesting new scientific theory....which would practically destroy the whole greenhouse gas theory. In the interest of truth, I'll try to keep up with this story and let you know what I find out.

http://www.wnd.com/2017/07/study-blows- ... the-water/

In the interest of truth...

THANKS TED!

Scientific American article: https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... rctic-ice/

Fact-and-figures website with a lot of interesting observations: http://greatwhitecon.info/blog/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prW0anJmzME

Unless humanity suddenly turns direction and does what it was always intended to do and what the DIRTY FILTHY LYING SCUM WHO ARE "LEADERS" and wholly EVIL always claim and lie they are doing ... you are absolutely screwed. My opinion is that it is far too late and the masses are far too stupid and cowardly to do anything and the Evil filth is far too entrenched to change the destruction of the planet. The ONLY HOPE IS THAT THE CREATOR WILL INTERCEDE AT THE VERY LAST MOMENT. Humanity has already shown what it is "capable" of and twittering about Climate change is like argueing about if water is wet at this late point.

Get your shite together and prepare, organize and realize that as wise as you think you are ... you are in reality one stupid MF and as capable as you may think you are , you are nothing ... nothing compared to the powers of Good or Evil which are swirling around you now. When your enemies mean to and are devoted to killing you and making you extinct ... well then ... YOU MUST KILL THEIR MINIONS AND DESTROY THEM lest you perish FOREVER. If you can not see this then you are quite the FOOL.

Scientific American article: https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... rctic-ice/

Fact-and-figures website with a lot of interesting observations: http://greatwhitecon.info/blog/

What do you think that proves, Mike?

I can show you news articles from before the industrial age where polar ice caps had melted so much they could sail across the north pole. Then there was "climate change" to get us where we are and a new "normal" that is cycling back to another heating/cooling cycle as it has been since God said "let there be light!"

Did you check the link I posted? What is wrong with starting with the DATA instead of an ideological THEORY that has already produced nothing but flawed projections?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prW0anJmzME

Unless humanity suddenly turns direction and does what it was always intended to do and what the DIRTY FILTHY LYING SCUM WHO ARE "LEADERS" and wholly EVIL always claim and lie they are doing ... you are absolutely screwed. My opinion is that it is far too late and the masses are far too stupid and cowardly to do anything and the Evil filth is far too entrenched to change the destruction of the planet. The ONLY HOPE IS THAT THE CREATOR WILL INTERCEDE AT THE VERY LAST MOMENT. Humanity has already shown what it is "capable" of and twittering about Climate change is like argueing about if water is wet at this late point.

Get your shite together and prepare, organize and realize that as wise as you think you are ... you are in reality one stupid MF and as capable as you may think you are , you are nothing ... nothing compared to the powers of Good or Evil which are swirling around you now. When your enemies mean to and are devoted to killing you and making you extinct ... well then ... YOU MUST KILL THEIR MINIONS AND DESTROY THEM lest you perish FOREVER. If you can not see this then you are quite the FOOL.

I don't think you are coming across as a reasonable person to discuss the topic with. What's with all the anger and fear, brother?



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What do you think that proves, Mike?

I can show you news articles from before the industrial age where polar ice caps had melted so much they could sail across the north pole. Then there was "climate change" to get us where we are and a new "normal" that is cycling back to another heating/cooling cycle as it has been since God said "let there be light!"

Did you check the link I posted? What is wrong with starting with the DATA instead of an ideological THEORY that has already produced nothing but flawed projections?

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Yeah, just another theory with no data cited to back it up. the 2nd link I put above is nothing but facts - and this is a sight that wants to debunk the global warming theories.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prW0anJmzME

Unless humanity suddenly turns direction and does what it was always intended to do and what the DIRTY FILTHY LYING SCUM WHO ARE "LEADERS" and wholly EVIL always claim and lie they are doing ... you are absolutely screwed. My opinion is that it is far too late and the masses are far too stupid and cowardly to do anything and the Evil filth is far too entrenched to change the destruction of the planet. The ONLY HOPE IS THAT THE CREATOR WILL INTERCEDE AT THE VERY LAST MOMENT. Humanity has already shown what it is "capable" of and twittering about Climate change is like argueing about if water is wet at this late point.

Get your shite together and prepare, organize and realize that as wise as you think you are ... you are in reality one stupid MF and as capable as you may think you are , you are nothing ... nothing compared to the powers of Good or Evil which are swirling around you now. When your enemies mean to and are devoted to killing you and making you extinct ... well then ... YOU MUST KILL THEIR MINIONS AND DESTROY THEM lest you perish FOREVER. If you can not see this then you are quite the FOOL.

So you returned from your self-imposed hiatus here. Sounds like you ran out of meds!

"So you returned from your self-imposed hiatus here. Sounds like you ran out of meds!"
Sorry Mike... That only shows how difficult it is to have a serious discussion with you.

"So you returned from your self-imposed hiatus here. Sounds like you ran out of meds!"
Sorry Mike... That only shows how difficult it is to have a serious discussion with you.

Sorry, Glen, but Vamp's angry tirade is "serious discussion"?? I don't think so.

Yod ... Thank you and I appreciate your statement. You are correct in that yes I am angry and done with "discussion" now . I am not taking any position pretending to be superior ... I am just finished "discussing". You have more kindness and patience than I . Mike ... I take no "meds", no pot, no drugs but i do have a beer or vodka at times. Much is transpiring and everything is moving faster and faster. It will be like shooting the rapids in an inner tube ... for everyone. We must stick together with those upon whom we can depend.

I feel the time for argueing is nearing it's end or in many instances over now. I wish everyone well ... even Planet Guy. I realized after re-reading my Post that it may have sounded like I was directing at "you" or anyone else involved who could in fact take it that way. I apologize as I used "you" in a very loose and general form referring to generally everyone ... including myself. I could have worded it more effectively and I apologize to Yod, you and anyone who may have felt I was directing it exclusively at them.

Here is something that further demonstrates that the dynamics have not changed but in fact worsened and that the USA has much to make up for and put right before there can be any chest beating about how "Truly Great America" is in reality. there are those who are on the right Path but they are encumbered, negated and even murdered by the many more who are not. My take is that there is most definately a "Revolution" going on at this moment but how and where it goes is rather up in the air ... regardless it will become violent and it will light up the cities of the USA and it will come to knock down everyone's door.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePfu-wYpjJM

All of us are in exposed positions in some ways. Economic collapse has already begun long ago so talking about it is fast becoming a mute point considering what is happening right now, tomorrow and next week. Enjoy your life as it is about to change for us all radically.
The worst is than Morality has almost disappeared and the worship of money, Evil and Ego now reigns supreme. Of course that is only my opinion.

gosh, vamp, it's almost as if you are apologizing to "them".. us and them .. you should not have had to come on to explain things to them, if they are too dense to understand..the future of mankind.. and the abomination standing on the crevice..

Dayne ... Ta for the thought. I have come to believe that now is the time to set examples more than ever before, be understanding to an extent, but beyond that the understanding must be simply cut and not quibbled about wasting valuable time which is now limited. When ever it can be done, then if it is at all possible to do it in a positive fashion rather than being negative.

It must be appreciated when those on here like Yod for example, take the time to explain and share their thoughts in an honest and forthright manner. My motivation is not fear but indeed it is anger.