Dayne Nobody IV wrote:these are a crutch for musicians with tin ears and/or perfectionists that don't really get the concept of being a genuine musician..
nonsense, they are a godsend to gigging musicians who must tune their instruments in noisy venues or when at noisy jam sessions when other musicians lack the good sense and/or common courtesy to STFU while someone else is trying to tune.
you two must have perfect pitch? eh? or are you just being wise because it is a planetguy thing you like expounding on, because of the past here? .
get off it. you were pleading for me to weigh in on some tune of your's and give you stars and kudos where the guitar was hooo-rendously out of tune.....out of friendship and not wanting to hurt your feelings i tried to put you off as long as i could...until you started getting pissy about me not weighing in.
and when i did, i said something very much along the lines of "sorry, it's difficult for me to focus on the song when the guitar is so out of tune". and then, when you threw a hissy fit and actually decided to make an issue out of it...at first claiming you were IN TUNE (?????) you then veered off into bizarro-ville pointing at other cases where some popular tune had a gtr part a little out of tune.
but your gtr wasn't "a little out of tune" ...it was painfully out of tune for anyone w even modest pitch recognition.
and then, you swiftly heard that very same thing not just from me....but from Jimmy D, GtrMike, Vinny, Jook, and probably a few others to boot . and how did you handle that? well, not so good, eh?
did you learn anything? are you now paying more attention to your intonation after hearing the concerns of those musicians you previously had respect for when they agreed you were out tune? sounds like....not. instead, you're once again pointing fingers at others you're suggesting are jealous and "envious".
look, if you don't hear things are out tune....that's an easy enough solve w a tuner. they're not perfect...esp so w an instrument that has intonation issues (as i tried to nicely point out to you back then) but they will get you very close and certainly to the point where other skilled and experienced musicians who DO notice poor intonation won't have to bust you on poor intonation.
soooo...no one complained at your swap meet that you were out tune? what exactly do you think that proves? that you WERE perfectly in tune???? hardly.
once again...none of this is being said to hurt your feelings, cut you down, and certainly it ain't out of any envy. you can take take that at face value or read into it whatever malice and bad intent choose to.

it' s as simple as this....out of tune is out of tune.