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#274093 by faythecountry
Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:16 pm
hello everyone, i am trying to put together a country band. i am wanting to go onto the route to become famous and would love to have people in the band who would want to play professionally. i am looking for musicians and back up singers in the age range of 18-30. i am 20 so i would like to perform with people around my age. i write music so we won't have to do any covers and can get right into originals. you may reach me at my email: faythessongwriting@yahoo.com if your interested. if you leave your number either my manager or i will shoot out a text or call to you with more details.
#274097 by GuitarMikeB
Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:35 pm
HI Fay - if it only was easy as putting a message on a forum!
This place doesn't see much traffic, the profiles see more, but you need to have music/video samples, more info on what you are planning, etc.
If you are trying to put together a band to back YOU up, rather than forming a band that you will be part of, then you need to be ready to set up a practice space, with PA and other equipment needed for shows (lights, etc) and to pay the other players for practice time.
#274098 by faythecountry
Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:44 pm
i hadn't been able to upload any music yet. my laptop hasn't let me. i have a feeling that if i post a song with only my singing that i won't work the way i plan on. someone gave me the advise to find a band before i start posting any of my songs. as of right now i am a solo artist with a passion for music and want to find more people
#275521 by DainNobody
Thu Apr 06, 2017 1:53 pm
well, since the topic states "creating a band" and as far as I can comprehend the post is not implicit to your wishes to create a band I will make a remark that curiosity killed the cat, and decided to find out where the band or people we were in discussion with to "create a band" was coming.. Tim had said new rehearsals would be in Wheatland, Mo. a 46 mile drive one way and too far for me to do.. well, after text messaging Tim to see if the band was back in Bolivar, and expressing indirectly I would still be available to rehearse , I was told , and I quote, " Not Yet. But the keyboard guys place isn't working for us so we don't have a place yet. Kind of frustrating. Lol. " end quote..
#275558 by GuitarMikeB
Fri Apr 07, 2017 12:21 pm
Dayne Nobody IV wrote:well, since the topic states "creating a band" and as far as I can comprehend the post is not implicit to your wishes to create a band I will make a remark that curiosity killed the cat, and decided to find out where the band or people we were in discussion with to "create a band" was coming.. Tim had said new rehearsals would be in Wheatland, Mo. a 46 mile drive one way and too far for me to do.. well, after text messaging Tim to see if the band was back in Bolivar, and expressing indirectly I would still be available to rehearse , I was told , and I quote, " Not Yet. But the keyboard guys place isn't working for us so we don't have a place yet. Kind of frustrating. Lol. " end quote..


Just move on, Dayne. You told them you weren't interested in practicing out where they started, so they wrote you off.
#275562 by DainNobody
Fri Apr 07, 2017 1:38 pm
actually Tim seemed quite civilized, I was actually surprised he replied within 5 minutes.. I did not blow them off.. I only said would not drive 46 miles to rehearsal..if Tim was truly pizzed, I don't think he would have bothered replying..LOL.. :lol: he understands time is money, and gas ain't exactly cheap, along with wear and tear to vehicle.. all the boasters here claiming how great they are having gigs, do not even consider the money they spend in order to boast about it..LMAO.. :lol:
#275570 by Planetguy
Fri Apr 07, 2017 3:32 pm
Dayne Nobody IV wrote: time is money, and gas ain't exactly cheap, along with wear and tear to vehicle.. all the boasters here claiming how great they are having gigs, do not even consider the money they spend in order to boast about it..LMAO.. :lol:


i'm not sure who's boasting about gigs here. if that's a thinly veiled slag at me...and yet another passive aggressive shot across the bow from you.....you couldn't have it more wrong.

but, then what else is new? see, it's that shitty passive aggressive stuff that makes me and others not want to engage w you. i give you another chance at civil discourse, but then it's back to your snarky bitchiness. :cry:

here's my take:

as for driving for prct and "taking that into acct"...i always take EVERYTHING into acct.
exactly as in weighing what i get out of a situation vs what's necessary to put into a situation.


talk is cheap...and someone bitching about how much they want to play out in a band situation but not willing to drive a mere 45 miles to check out what might be an otherwise happening deal (and esp when from what you said is a temp situation).....were i that band...my takeaway is that you're not serious, and i'd likely move on from you.

of the three bands that i play with Mere Mortals Bluegrass Band is the least gigging and least money producing venture. it's also the ONLY band that ever gets together to practice. and that's weekly. sometimes it's at my place, but usually it's in Columbia which is 40 miles away cos that's where the rest of the band lives.

i'm happy to make that drive because i enjoy playing and hanging out w these folks. simple as that.

would i prefer not making the drive and instead playing w people who lived across the road from me....of course. but that ain't an option in a town of 104 people. so, i make the drive..... because i HAVE taken everything into consideration.

gas/driving time vs the benefits of playing w musicians that i enjoy playing with.

having spent the last 30 something yrs of my life living out in the country, that's something i've always had to deal with. if you want something... you make some sacrifices and compromises for it. if you're not willing to do that...well, the obvious takeaway is that it isn't all that important to you.

your MILEAGE clearly varies.
#275571 by DainNobody
Fri Apr 07, 2017 3:37 pm
it was not you Planetguy..
#275573 by DainNobody
Fri Apr 07, 2017 3:44 pm
people don't account for the true cost of gigging is all I was saying..

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#275574 by Planetguy
Fri Apr 07, 2017 3:46 pm
Dayne Nobody IV wrote:it was not you Planetguy..


fair enough and good luck w that deal.
#275575 by DainNobody
Fri Apr 07, 2017 4:00 pm
I am glad you are enjoying what you do.. but I have heard you make accusations in the past as to if you are NOT gigging then you are not really at the same level as somebody that does gig regularly,.. my ship might come in and it might not, I am NOT actively pursuing people to get a gig with.. once in awhile I will scope out craigslist and see what's going on there musician wise, but I do not go to bars and establishments, looking, I do not get in contact with musicians I worked with in the past, since I see no grounds for beating a dead horse with people that do not see eye to eye with me musically, if they do not want to work up my originals with me I will not hold them accountable for not choosing to do so, if they can not envision what I see as a musical quest of sorts I simply will relax and let patience be my friend.. swap meet season is coming and will be dragging the guitars out again, I will play sporadically again off and on live and if it pays off finding a musician or getting a coinage flipped into the case, fine.. if I get favorable comments on my playing ,, fine.. if I happen to sell a guitar, at a profit, EVEN BETTER! :D
#275577 by DainNobody
Fri Apr 07, 2017 4:30 pm
.and yet another passive aggressive shot across the bow from you


I do not see how what I said was passive aggressive? simply stating an observation..
#275580 by Planetguy
Fri Apr 07, 2017 5:14 pm
Planetguy wrote:
Dayne Nobody IV wrote: time is money, and gas ain't exactly cheap, along with wear and tear to vehicle.. all the boasters here claiming how great they are having gigs, do not even consider the money they spend in order to boast about it..LMAO.. :lol:


i'm not sure who's boasting about gigs here. if that's a thinly veiled slag at me...and yet another passive aggressive shot across the bow from you.....you couldn't have it more wrong.



so....you said that wasn't me you're referring to. (though one wonders WHO it actually was then) i remain skeptical but nonetheless i moved on saying "good to know".

are you ready to move on or do you still want to pursue that further?
#275581 by Planetguy
Fri Apr 07, 2017 5:36 pm
Dayne Nobody IV wrote:I am glad you are enjoying what you do.. but I have heard you make accusations in the past as to if you are NOT gigging then you are not really at the same level as somebody that does gig regularly,..


no, i don't believe that's accurate. ( though i've no doubt you see it that way and believe that to be so.) i'd need to see the context in which that was ever put out there (if it was) to give you that misconception.

comments to Memphass/Ready notwithstanding... and those comments ARE relevant considering her/his bragging while lacking any real life gigging exp.... calling him/her out on that IS relevant when he/she puts down anyone else's gigs or Mike's efforts.

i stand by that.....if you're a wannabe with zero experience playing gigs out and about, and you're touting yourself to the best thing since the invention of the wheel...then your opinions and putdowns about the venues that working musicians DO play simply doesn't carry the same amt of weight (for me) as someone who has been in the trenches playing gigs. you disagree?

fact is that i've NEVER put myself above you, schmed, glen or any non gigging musicians here or elsewhere because i play out regularly.... and that's because i don't see myself in any elevated position to do so.

hopefully that clears that up that misconception for you... feel free to see it otherwise if you choose, but that'd simply be inaccurate.
#275583 by GuitarMikeB
Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:42 pm
Dayne Nobody IV wrote:I am glad you are enjoying what you do.. but I have heard you make accusations in the past as to if you are NOT gigging then you are not really at the same level as somebody that does gig regularly,.. my ship might come in and it might not, I am NOT actively pursuing people to get a gig with.. once in awhile I will scope out craigslist and see what's going on there musician wise, but I do not go to bars and establishments, looking, I do not get in contact with musicians I worked with in the past, since I see no grounds for beating a dead horse with people that do not see eye to eye with me musically, if they do not want to work up my originals with me I will not hold them accountable for not choosing to do so, if they can not envision what I see as a musical quest of sorts I simply will relax and let patience be my friend.. swap meet season is coming and will be dragging the guitars out again, I will play sporadically again off and on live and if it pays off finding a musician or getting a coinage flipped into the case, fine.. if I get favorable comments on my playing ,, fine.. if I happen to sell a guitar, at a profit, EVEN BETTER! :D



If you're not actively pursuing people to gig with, not going out to talk to other musicians .... it's just not going to happen. CraigsList - your mileage may vary - but my figures are about 1 in 10 contacts from CL is viable, and the odds of one of them working out in the long run are much less. I'd say the odds of finding bandmates or a band by noodling around while selling junk at swapmeets are much worse.
If you don't make the effort yourself, its not going to happen, because others will see your lack of effort.

Example - older guy (he's retired) I know from one of the open mics/jams was going to audition another guitarist at the jam last week. Just so happens, I played in a band with this other guy, and when they were talking that came up. The first guy asked me about the other guy, I told him my thoughts.
Night of the jam, the other guy (the guy I played with - I don't want to name names) still hadn't shown up at 9pm - they were supposed to play at 9:30. So the first guy sent him a text, no response. The next day, finally a response 'sorry, I fell asleep'. The first guy told me when he read that, he didn't bother replying, just crossed the guy's name off his list.
I'll give anyone who makes an effort a shot, and even a second shot. No effort: get walking.

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