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Someone should tell dufus that when you drain the swamp you don't bring home the alligators, the water moccasins, and every other low form of life that has been wallowing around in it for 60 years or more. And you don't save the scum. He appoints friends of george soros He appoints friends of putin, he appoints people the bushes supported, he hires globalists.... other than that, not a bad start!

trump picked a bunch of left leaning idiots that are going along with every scam that obama and his globalist buddies contrived. And one of his picks is a radical environmentalist that has been wanting to tax us for carbon dioxide. Does that even sound like a guy who passed high school science class? Does trump sound like a guy who ran on taking back our efficient energy? So when do you suppose the breath tax coming?

Why didn't he hire didn't Gore for something. How about putting up a wall on each end of our border one mile long, and then making the rest a gate that we leave unlocked. Perhaps we should simply hand over our constitution and the amendments now and quit bothering to defend them. About that health care debacle called obamacare? Never mind. It seems to be working OK except for those who can't afford it and the skyrocketing prices laid on the backs of those who once could afford it. Oh yeah, I shouldn't forget all the doctors that are quitting, the hospitals that are having to shut down due to obamacare.

Yeah I know. Some of this will take time. Time is the politicians friend. Remember when the dems said they would build the wall if Regan gave the illegals amnesty? Well that's how time works for politicians. "It takes time" "Rome wasn't built in a day" No it wasn't, but once the ball started rolling it didn't take long to destroy it.

What's left that he hasn't already flipped on? Early on I referred to him as chameleon trump and he hasn't disappointed. At least hillary would have saved us some tax dollars by flying everywhere on her broom as opposed to fuel guzzling airplane. Unfortunately she also would cast evil spells on us and we would suffer agonizing deaths. Those damned pins would really hurt. To say little about her causing eye of newt prices to skyrocket. The left whine, they cry, they bash his choices 24/7 on Pravda.

Then they go behind closed doors, break out the champagne, and laugh their asses off.

I don't think so...

Let us Not jump to conclusions
Just a thought...

Why on earth does Trump want Rex Tillerson at the State Department?
By Thomas Lifson
The president-elect who loves surprising the media may have a really big project in mind. Bigger, even, than huge.
Many media sources are reporting that Rex Tillerson, CEO of Exxon-Mobil, is to be designated secretary of state, following a long process that included the courting of Mitt Romney for the job. There is a large camp of Trump haters who will leap to conclusions as to why this is a malign choice. For some people, oil = bad, and ExxonMobil = Rockefeller, so we automatically have a nefarious conspiracy planned. Others will stop mumbling about generals and start mumbling about “lack of government experience” as if it is a bad thing to bring a fresh set of ideas to an institution renowned for its glacial pace and inward focus.
For the moment, I want to assume for the sake of analysis that President-Elect Trump has a plan and that he is as intelligent and even visionary as his track record of success indicates. I want to draw some inferences from the pattern of behavior I have observed in him. What follows is speculative.
Trump the Dealmaker
First and foremost, I weigh very heavily the multiple times Trump has spoken of the presidency as if making deals is the heart of the executive function. He wants to make better deals for the American people, or so he says.
Donald Trump also has a characteristic that is one of his defining strengths that very few other analysts seem to credit: he is a visionary. In The Art of the Deal, he wrote about seeing the Grand Central Station area in Midtown Manhattan in danger of becoming blighted when the old Commodore Hotel there closed its doors, shabby and shunned. But Trump had a vision of turning around the area, with a redo of the hotel as one critical piece of the puzzle. He describes in the book how he made his vision happen, and it took a lot of hardball negotiations, among other things. But eventually, everything worked as he foresaw, and Grand Central bounced back strongly, while he made a fortune.
Such a deal!
Now, the scope of the presidency allows for much, much bigger visionary possibilities. If we look at the world today, one striking thing is that Islam is the source of much of the organized violent conflict. All of the great powers – the U.S., Russia, China, and Europe – are afflicted with violent Islamic jihad. Within Islam, the Saudis and Gulf potentates have funded radical jihadists, so much so that the entire ummah has been dragged in the direction of scriptural injunctions to violence against the infidels for various infractions.
Up until this historical moment, the great powers have been unable to act in concert to help Islam find its way back to something resembling peaceful coexistence with the infidels of the world, and with modernity itself. The reason is simple: oil. The Islamic nations have so far controlled so much of it that the West had no choice but to accept their funding of a jihad war for global dominance, as scripturally mandated but only intermittently acted upon by Muslims worldwide.
But now fracking and related technologies have lessened the chokehold, especially of Gulf nations, on the world’s energy supply.
Maybe it is time for a new grand bargain. The Gulf potentates stop supporting fundamentalist clergy, publications, and mosques overseas. In return, they be allowed to continue a very profitable industry, one that their own citizens mostly do not directly manage.
Personnel Is Policy
Now let’s think about what kind of people a president might need in order to open discussions such as this. I suppose people who have a long history of dealings with the key players, and who are trusted both for their own discretion and for having the president’s ear.
People like Terry Branstad and Rex Tillerson, who not only knows the Russians, but has been dealing all over the Arab world and Europe.
The nature of a new grand bargain among the civilizations of the world, in which Islam agrees to stop trying to force the rest of the world to adopt Islam, is such that it has to be unveiled very gradually and employ delicate threats-that-aren’t-explicit, discussing, say, alternative scenarios for world energy supply (who better than Secretary of State Tillerson for this?) that might affect the budgets of various kings and emirs.
I honestly believe that Donald Trump:
1. thinks original thoughts,
2. is not bound by conventional wisdom,
3. thinks very big and very long-term, and
4. is so rich that the only important goal left for him is to make his mark on history as the dealmaker who saved his homeland.
If these are reasonable assumptions, it is at least thinkable that disarming the “clash of civilizations” that Samuel Huntington described as the central conflict of our age may be what Donald Trump has in mind for his legacy.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/201 ... tment.html

trump picked a bunch of left leaning idiots

i agree that his plans for draining the swamp are pretty dubiuos.... but leftists???

"leftists" like...

Gary Cohn...the president of Goldman Sachs
Steven Mnuchin...golden boy at Goldman Sachs
Rex Tillerson... chief Exxon exec
Rick Perry
Steve Bannon
Reince Preibus
Sleepy Ben Carson
Jeff Sessions
Tom Price
Wilbur Ross...head of investment banking company Rothschild Inc.
Andrew Puzdor ...a labor secretary who's against any raise of minimum wage

"lefties"?????

it's unlikely anyone in that group has even so much as used their left turn signal in their cars.....and that's why the new admin will do nothing more than go around in circles.

In the Great Grand Game of this World the two sides are neither Left nor Right ... they are good or evil. They are Black or White. When one watches the Master of chess play his opponent, one can not percieve not understand often his strategem . Trump is a Master, The question remains but will be soon answered ... A Master of What. It is interesting what Slacker's take is and even more so when Planet Guy posted his. Together with Glen's they are most indicative, relevant and each one credible as a valid opinion. That is what makes this War, this Battle, this Grand Game to the Death so very interesting I believe.

with all due respect....i believe it's naive to heave to the notion that there's no difference between repub and dem values and beliefs in what's important, and where our tax dollars should be spent.

it's a gross oversimplification to try to sweep away any differences w a wave of the hand, chalking everything up to black and white simplification such as everything coming down merely "good and "evil".

here's just one exmpl....yes, there are many more, and many which some deem more important...but just for argument's sake....how about the arts?

like most here, I hold the pursuit and support of them as very important. it's no generality to say that dems and repub administrations have had decidedly different takes on that.

Some facts:

in 1981, at the beginning of Ronald Reagan’s administration, the NEA was cut. Originally conservatives wanted to cut the NEA budget by 50%, but after a slew of opposition, the cut was just over 10%.

The NEA was cut again by a Republican-led Congress in 1995 – by 40% – to the current budget of slightly less than $100 million a year. Conservative voices wanted to cut the NEA altogether, but President Clinton intervened.

John McCain’s record is clear. He voted for the Helms Amendment, which hoped to deny funding to work considered “obscene”

In 1999, McCain voted with Sens. Robert Smith, Jesse Helms, Strom Thurmond, Sam Brownback and John Ashcroft for the Smith-Ashcroft amendment. The amendment hoped to cut all funding for the NEA from that year’s budget.

and that's but one exmpl ......climate control, immigration issues, existence of voter fraud, civil rights, assistance to the genuinely needy, etc, etc.

of course "evil" exists. my definition of "evil" is greed. greed for money. greed for power. greed to hold onto power at any cost.

but there are fundamental core differences in values that have nothing to do w "good" or "evil".

i might disagree w their values but i don't believe that cutting $ for the arts defined Reagan, or McCain as "evil".

What is EVIL ... The World's Largest Criminal Organization that has ever been in history. Who is this ? The Mafia comprised of The Hag, The Pervert, The Clinton foundation, The Puss Bag Soros, Kissinger and many other members ... The Luciferean NWO. Everything they have touched is diseased. Now they are so close to taking The USA and it's Constitution that they WILL STOP AT NOTHING.

The Electoral "Voters" are being compromised before your very eyes along with an element of the Bufoon Agency known as the CIA. BlackMail, Threat, Greed, EVIL is being brought to bear here and there is no difference between Left, Right, Republican or Demoncrat. There is only Good or Evil. You are witnessing the Evil as it ramps up and believe me ... you have seen nothing yet.

The manufactured "Facade" of "National Emergency" will be used to blame Trump and along with the Traitorous Elector Flippers then The Black Messiah will "declare" his precious emergency and there will be CIVIL WAR ... if the guns are not taken in accordance with the UN Treaty that has been signed long ago into existence. If this happens "Giga Death" may become a reality ... so enjoy your "Last Christmas".

You are witnessing the Evil as it ramps up and believe me ... you have seen nothing yet.

yeah, trump's appointments have been quite scary, indeed.

with all due respect....i believe it's naive to heave to the notion that there's no difference between repub and dem values and beliefs in what's important, and where our tax dollars should be spent.

it's a gross oversimplification to try to sweep away any differences w a wave of the hand, chalking everything up to black and white simplification such as everything coming down merely "good and "evil".

here's just one exmpl....yes, there are many more, and many which some deem more important...but just for argument's sake....how about the arts?

like most here, I hold the pursuit and support of them as very important. it's no generality to say that dems and repub administrations have had decidedly different takes on that.

Some facts:

in 1981, at the beginning of Ronald Reagan’s administration, the NEA was cut. Originally conservatives wanted to cut the NEA budget by 50%, but after a slew of opposition, the cut was just over 10%.

The NEA was cut again by a Republican-led Congress in 1995 – by 40% – to the current budget of slightly less than $100 million a year. Conservative voices wanted to cut the NEA altogether, but President Clinton intervened.

John McCain’s record is clear. He voted for the Helms Amendment, which hoped to deny funding to work considered “obscene”

In 1999, McCain voted with Sens. Robert Smith, Jesse Helms, Strom Thurmond, Sam Brownback and John Ashcroft for the Smith-Ashcroft amendment. The amendment hoped to cut all funding for the NEA from that year’s budget.

and that's but one exmpl ......climate control, immigration issues, existence of voter fraud, civil rights, assistance to the genuinely needy, etc, etc.

of course "evil" exists. my definition of "evil" is greed. greed for money. greed for power. greed to hold onto power at any cost.

but there are fundamental core differences in values that have nothing to do w "good" or "evil".

i might disagree w their values but i don't believe that cutting $ for the arts defined Reagan, or McCain as "evil".

Well who the hell got into your thick skin? I want to thank them.

Planet Guy, there you go with that sense of humour again. I understand your points and perhaps they are in order . I fear they may not be however. Trump has shaken up the free ride that Republicans and Demoncrats have had. Both these so-called "parties" make up the Political Filth and it's well known and age old "system" of playing both sides. It was found quite some time ago that if both sides were one of the same , then the plebs could be fooled and manipulated easier. At least that is my take on it all. Trump will cut them off and destroy their plans for a "New World Order".

with all due respect....i believe it's naive to heave to the notion that there's no difference between repub and dem values and beliefs in what's important, and where our tax dollars should be spent.

it's a gross oversimplification to try to sweep away any differences w a wave of the hand, chalking everything up to black and white simplification such as everything coming down merely "good and "evil".

here's just one exmpl....yes, there are many more, and many which some deem more important...but just for argument's sake....how about the arts?

like most here, I hold the pursuit and support of them as very important. it's no generality to say that dems and repub administrations have had decidedly different takes on that.

Some facts:

in 1981, at the beginning of Ronald Reagan’s administration, the NEA was cut. Originally conservatives wanted to cut the NEA budget by 50%, but after a slew of opposition, the cut was just over 10%.

The NEA was cut again by a Republican-led Congress in 1995 – by 40% – to the current budget of slightly less than $100 million a year. Conservative voices wanted to cut the NEA altogether, but President Clinton intervened.

John McCain’s record is clear. He voted for the Helms Amendment, which hoped to deny funding to work considered “obscene”

In 1999, McCain voted with Sens. Robert Smith, Jesse Helms, Strom Thurmond, Sam Brownback and John Ashcroft for the Smith-Ashcroft amendment. The amendment hoped to cut all funding for the NEA from that year’s budget.

and that's but one exmpl ......climate control, immigration issues, existence of voter fraud, civil rights, assistance to the genuinely needy, etc, etc.

of course "evil" exists. my definition of "evil" is greed. greed for money. greed for power. greed to hold onto power at any cost.

but there are fundamental core differences in values that have nothing to do w "good" or "evil".

i might disagree w their values but i don't believe that cutting $ for the arts defined Reagan, or McCain as "evil".

Well who the hell got into your thick skin? I want to thank them.

sorry, no changes here....just you getting a more accurate glimpse into where my head has always been at.

and may i add that you're looking a lot better and more stylish w/o the cane and dark glasses!

Planet Guy, there you go with that sense of humour again.

well, you are what you eat....and i eat a lot of yams.

Trump has shaken up the free ride that Republicans and Demoncrats have had.

how, by appointing unqualified people w zero exp?

Trump will cut them off and destroy their plans for a "New World Order".

i find that highly doubtful w his appointing fatcats from Goldman Sachs, EXXON, and Rothschild Inc. The only "order" of the day is the fatcats eating even more heartily at the trough than ever before.

"Drain the swamp"...my a$$!

Planet Guy, there you go with that sense of humour again. I understand your points and perhaps they are in order . I fear they may not be however. Trump has shaken up the free ride that Republicans and Demoncrats have had. Both these so-called "parties" make up the Political Filth and it's well known and age old "system" of playing both sides. It was found quite some time ago that if both sides were one of the same , then the plebs could be fooled and manipulated easier. At least that is my take on it all. Trump will cut them off and destroy their plans for a "New World Order".

STOP!!!

Planet jerk is an anti American., he practices being anti American.
Under our CONSTITUTIONAL LAWS he has all the rights and privileges guaranteed under those laws.

WE ALL HAVE OUR CHOICES!!!!

What he doesn't seem to understand is........ SO DO !!!!!!!!!!!!!

GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!!!


Side note: I did not, go out of my way to call him a mutha, f**k aaaaaahole.

HE HELPS HIMSELF.... DO IT ALL THE TIME.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDBFcWFurfc