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#268919 by Vampier
Wed Nov 09, 2016 4:11 pm
Yod and Haley ... excellent Posts. No need to tolerate the stupid any longer. They shall continue to twitter and try to be clever but they only incriminate themselves and further render their ignorance. They are the dwindling "grey noise" who need to be slapped down and then ignored, given no credence for they have proven they deserve none. Their freely given "opinions" will provide some amusement before they become trite and insignificant. To Hell with them all. It is a short trip for them.
#268921 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Wed Nov 09, 2016 4:20 pm
Vampier wrote:To Hell with them all. It is a short trip for them.




I don't feel the same way. I'm still hopeful they might wake up to the realization that the DNC has never told them the truth about anything. I'm hoping they might finally understand how they've been played for fools by the people they trusted.

And I'm hoping the divisiveness caused by their/they're/thayer dishonest and tyrannical President (and recent candidate of choice) can finally start healing. We should expect that they still have a lot of guile saved up for gloating that will now need release. Let their poisonous invective flow. We can smile, roll up our sleeves, and prove their silly accusations to be the lies we knew they were.







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#268926 by Planetguy
Wed Nov 09, 2016 4:40 pm
yod wrote:
Vampier wrote:To Hell with them all. It is a short trip for them.




I don't feel the same way. I'm still hopeful they might wake up to the realization that the DNC has never told them the truth about anything. I'm hoping they might finally understand how they've been played for fools by the people they trusted.

And I'm hoping the divisiveness caused by their/they're/thayer dishonest and tyrannical President (and recent candidate of choice) can finally start healing. We should expect that they still have a lot of guile saved up for gloating that will now need release. Let their poisonous invective flow. We can smile, roll up our sleeves, and prove their silly accusations to be the lies we knew they were.

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"gloating"???? who's gloating? .....the pinheads who put a buffoon in charge of our country, that's who.

Unlike vamp, i don't love and worship MY sack of rage. And unlike him and others of his stripe, I don't need to feed and nurture it daily.

i'm with you Ted, I'm all for healing and unification. but i don't see anyway that could ever happen w trump at the helm. not when he's too busy suing and going after everyone that he's ever received a slight (real or perceived) from.

as the saying goes..."some never see the light until it shines thru bullet holes". but then it will be too late.... and even then the trumpies, hillary haters, and obama haters won't recognize when the lights are about to go out.
#268930 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Wed Nov 09, 2016 4:54 pm
Planetguy wrote:
"gloating"???? who's gloating? .....the pinheads who put a buffoon in charge of our country, that's who.




Yeah, they sure were....until about 8 PM when they realized Trump was going to trounce them. The funniest part about last night was watching them eat crow. Steve Colbert had his entire show geared for gloating, and it was hilarious to see the ridicule turn back on them during their presumptive gloat party.




i'm with you Ted, I'm all for healing and unification. but i don't see anyway that could ever happen w trump at the helm. not when he's too busy suing and going after everyone that he's ever received a slight (real or perceived) from.
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Most of that was just bluster, shooting from the lip. Yes, there is the Breitbart/Drudge/infowars contingent who want revenge. We, the decent people of America, will not allow that. We are tired of tyranny and corruption from both sides of the establishment, and Trump understands that enough to pull off a stunning upset.

Trump made fat-mouth statements that a non-career politician would make. I don't believe it was anywhere near the "dangerous rhetoric" that leftist media portrayed it to be, but rather a tough guy responding to being pushed.

Mrs Clinton is making a very gracious concession speech right now. I hope that her followers will abide what she just said so we can put 8 years of govt sanctioned divisiveness behind us....and start fighting over the next election.

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#268931 by Planetguy
Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:01 pm
ted, i agree w most of what you said above, so for now we can leave it at that. and yeah...we can start gearing up for the bitchfest that will be the next election! good one. :D

i'm off to gym now to blow off steam....

.....now, what DID i do w my black shorts, black tee shirt, black sneakers, and black socks????!!!!!! :D
#268934 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:53 pm
Word to the wise.....Don't hold your breath!

I predict that Trump will govern more centrist than he has been portrayed. Conservatives will have their hearts broken (again) if they think he's one of them, though he has moved towards the right during the election.

But the left will continue being the dishonest players they've always been. When Bush tried working with them, he lost support from the right and was ultimately betrayed by those same Democrats for any good will gestures he made.

I guess that's the good thing about two polarized partisan positions. There is always someone watching with a suspicious eye.



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#268935 by J-HALEY
Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:22 pm
yod wrote:Word to the wise.....Don't hold your breath!

I predict that Trump will govern more centrist than he has been portrayed. Conservatives will have their hearts broken (again) if they think he's one of them, though he has moved towards the right during the election.

But the left will continue being the dishonest players they've always been. When Bush tried working with them, he lost support from the right and was ultimately betrayed by those same Democrats for any good will gestures he made.

I guess that's the good thing about two polarized partisan positions. There is always someone watching with a suspicious eye.



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If Trump doesn't do most of what he claimed the same people that elected him will vote for his opponent in 4 years! He has the House and Senate majority so NO EXCUSES!
#268937 by Vampier
Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:46 pm
Yod ...I understand exactly how you feel I believe ... but things have gotten far too serious now to give any quarter. I am not saying be merciless but I am saying be a Man, someone who is wise, responsible and true to what is Good. The Enemie has declared itself long ago but were able to march directly into the WhiteHouse and take control whilst lying openly to the very people who put them there.

Already as I warned the brainless mouths are spewing trying desperately to be who they obviously are. Ignore them for they know what they do. This filth knows exactly what it does and declares consistently to be exactly who and what it is. Somehow The Hag was not allowed to become "President" and Trump was. The word divine comes to mind. Not that either is by any means Divine but rather that one was allowed by what is divine to Triumph.

What this does I think is allow Humanity yet another FINAL CHANCE to prove itself. Doing so is not an easy task and it is quite clearly the task of Men, not self propelled whining spouting mouths who are motivated only by EGO and not intellect. This trash should be recognized for what it is and not any longer "given the benefit of any doubt". It deserves not any such and rather needs to be mercifully put away and not recognized as anything other than it is.

Trump must be held to task and this will be done by Intelligent Patriotic Men who believe in the Divine, The Creator and the ultimate defeat of Evil. This is no time for celebration ... it is the time to double down and act with RIGHT ACTION. Tolerance is for your children not for your Enemies, especially when they insist on declaring themselves incessantly and with brainless yuck yuck.

Trump is no god. But he is a Man. He is not innocent, incorruptable or Divine ... he is a Man. He is not a "guy". It is time to get serious and back upon the Right Path. You are generally a good Man it seems Yod. You have may not always been such but there certainly was always that spark of goodness within you. We are no different than Trump or rather he is no different than us. We must hold ourselves to task and one another as well.

The Viper is angry, The Hag hisses and still the powers of pollutants, poisons and perversities are under their control. The cancers must be cut out, the lessons of keeping silent, being tolerant and open minded must be learned and Right Actions must be taken. The ememies must be recognized and identified and brought to task. there is little time left. Not enough to entertain the prattle of idiots.
#268942 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Wed Nov 09, 2016 7:16 pm
Jookeyman wrote:
Sambop wrote:Trump has said the Globalist CFR president Richard Haas would be one of his "go to" experts on how to handle foreign policy .... same as Hillary's "go to" guy!


And don't forget Mr. Psych-Ops himself, Kissinger's protégé. :shock:




And Roger Stone

Trump is an unknown quantity still. There is a danger of conservatives thinking we have won something, and just hitting the snooze button. Progressives have infiltrated all political parties and aren't taking a rest.

Watching NBC coverage now. It's hilarious to hear them say they won't allow hate to rule in America.....while hating anyone who has the simplest disagreement with them. THEY are the religious bigots, and the racists, and the "America-phobes" but we should be the bigger people and let them spew poison for a few days before the hard work of putting America back to work begins.



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#268944 by Paleopete
Wed Nov 09, 2016 7:33 pm
I seem to have a lot more trust in Trump than some people, probably for a couple of reasons.

I know he has a reputation fro doing what he says, and I've watched the attitudes and loyalty of some of the people who work for him. His butler at Mar A Lago has been there over 20 years and has great respect for his boss. He said in an interview he could tell Trump anything he wanted, whether the Donald agreed or not, and he would just laugh or shake his head and carry on.

His primary aide at Trump Tower is a woman, who has also been there 20 years and calls herself his "right arm". She didn't say much, but her general attitude says the same.

His pilot on his 757 has also been on that job for over 20 years, and said he wouldn't want to work anywhere else. I watched a documentary about it not long ago, apparently aired on TV at one time. How many pilots do you think would put on latex gloves, grab a cloth and polish the gold hardware and light fixtures on the plane they are captain of? How many people work for the same boss for 20 years if he's a complete jerk?

Why do you think we haven't seen the MSM haul out a long string of disgruntled employees with horror stories about what a bad boss Trump is? Because they can't find any. The MSM seems to want you to have the idea he sits in Trump Tower and rules from afar, but the truth is he has always, and still did until he started campaigning, would go to the job site and talk to the people doing the work. The concrete guys, the carpenters, the steel workers and electricians. How's it going? What can we do to make it run better? That's how he found out what changes to make and how to get people to do him a good job.

SO what is he really like? Hillary is worth at least $120 million, did she send a truck full of supplies to the Baton Rouge area after a serious flood? No, she didn't even go there. What about all the other politicians who have blasted him for the past 1 1/2 years? Did even one of them part with a little of their millions to help out in Baton Rouge? Nope. Not a penny. The Bush clan is filthy rich, not a penny. John Kerry...worth $190 million? Nope, not a cent. Mitt Romney? Nope. Not one of the politicians who tried to tell us what a low life Trump is, because he won't join their little club of criminals, lifted a finger to help out.

Trump found out about the bus driver who stopped and helped a woman about to jump off a bridge, sent him a check for something like $10,000, just for doing a good deed. And didn't call a press conference...did it and moved on. He sent Sgt Tamoreesi $15,000 to help him get started again after he finally got out of jail on Mexico. Obama didn't even talk to 3 veterans who WALKED several hundred miles to the White House to get him to help. And Obama never lifted a finger to help get our marine out of there.

There are a number of stories about things like this you never hear about. All the news and politicians have done is point out the least transgression, blow it out of proportion, even if it's a lie, to try and bring Trump down. All because they know he is going to derail their little gravy train. He told them from day one, their reign of corruption was over.

Make no mistake about it, this election was not about Donald Trump, it was not about Hillary Clinton, it was about saving this country from going off a cliff. Trump might be gruff and unpolished, for all his billions, but he has an uncanny ability to spot a problem and figure out a solution. He has instincts that won't wait. If you watched the Republican debates, Ben Carson didn't hear his name at one of them and stopped at side stage. Bush walked by, Cruz walked by, Trump stopped. Something's wrong here and I'm not moving until we find out what and fix it. Once they figured out what was going on, the moderators told them to both come out, nope...Trump sent Carson out first, to get his introduction and moment in the spotlight, then he went out himself. And Democrats and the MSM want you to think he's a racist. A racist would have walked right by like Bush and Cruz did and paid no attention to it. That's not a racist, its a LEADER...

There is plenty more out there if you look a little. Most people don't. I did. I wanted to know just what we were voting for.

So I have more faith in Trump than many may have, but I've looked up enough info on the guy to know what he's really like, I never did pay much attention to all the hit pieces published by the NY Times and Washington Post, I did the research and found out it was 90% lies. Even the woman who recently dropped her claim that he raped her at age 13...outright lie. That's why she dropped the claim. The woman who claimed he groped her on an airplane...wrong plane, Branniff used all 727 planes on that particular route, not 707. The armrests on them did not lift up, they were stationary. When Jay Leno wanted to lie down across two seats they had to call out a mechanic to remove the armrest. And, the man who sat across from them said it was all a lie, Trump never touched her and she was "very flirtatious" the whole flight. And so it goes. The woman who was a "Apprentice" contestant... several family members said they were taken by surprise, she has been Trump's biggest fan ever since she was on the show, she wrote him a letter in April this year trying to get him to come to her restaurant. All of them similar scenarios. All lies. But the public sucked it up, simply because they didn't do a little research.

Trump will do a lot better job than many of you may think. He'll still have a lot of opposition in Congress, but he'll get a lot done, and will very likely be able to get a lot more cooperation than I'm even willing to admit. I think if he gets half of what he wants, the country will be in very good shape. I also think he's been pushing for more than he actually wants, and that's why. He knows from many years of doing business, you always go in looking for more than you actually want. And if you think he can't get things done, he already got a lot accomplished...took out 16 opponents in his own party, won the White House against Democrats, Republicans and the press, basically tore down the Republican party and is right now rebuilding it...for the better...and will most likely do the same with the Democratic party, he knows it is hopelessly corrupt. And yes, I know some Republicans are corrupt too, it's not only Democrats...I'm not trying to lay it all on Democrats...

But we have to give him a chance. That's the important thing. He took a huge chance for us, let's give him a chance. He just walked away from a $4 million a year job for one that pays $400,000. Trump Tower makes the White House look like a Holiday Inn. His 757 makes Air Force One look like a Cessna...he took a giant step DOWN to take this job. And promised to do it without a paycheck. Because he cares about his country.

I think that deserves a fair chance.
#268945 by Planetguy
Wed Nov 09, 2016 7:40 pm
and this will no doubt suprise many here....but i am doing my best to approach his presidency w an open mind and i am hopeful (if more than a little doubtful) that he doesn't screw things up too badly. time will tell.

as for him bringing unity and less division to this country, i'd welcome that but just don't see it happening. the "ugly" genie of division is out of the lamp and it ain't ever going back in.

at least not in our lifetimes. i hope i'm wrong.
#268951 by Vampier
Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:32 pm
PaleoPete ..well stated. Trump's best qualifications are that he is not a laughingly called "Professional" Politician. Very interesting information you gave ... thank you.

It is as it always is ... those heckling yuck yuck's, insultors of Truth ... when soundly defeated and exposed ... always try desperately to reassert themselves and their Self-percieved importance by pretending to be "fair", "open minded" and just. They are not. They are merely desperately trying to salvage any shred of credibility and not lose their "position", which has already been made abundantly clear. It is pathetic, predictable and of course not at all the TRUTH.

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