General Music Chat

here another vid from that hot as hades june 12 gig.

this a an old tune of mine we recently started doing...."Gone Goodbye"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX3xmjc-ydQ

More good stuff. I've been noticing how these tunes would really benefit from the addition of a piano. (Did I just say that? Shameless...) I assume you've charted all this stuff?

here another vid from that hot as hades june 12 gig.

this a an old tune of mine we recently started doing...."Gone Goodbye"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-0e7atGeP0

Nice... you know I'm no jazzbo but I do like your originals! Would love to hear something really uptempo if you can direct me to it!

Great example of a very tight band.

Talbot

here another vid from that hot as hades june 12 gig.

this a an old tune of mine we recently started doing...."Gone Goodbye"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-0e7atGeP0

Nice... you know I'm no jazzbo but I do like your originals! Would love to hear something really uptempo if you can direct me to it!

Here's my favorite.

https://soundcloud.com/planetguy-1/there-pentazz

Nice... you know I'm no jazzbo but I do like your originals! Would love to hear something really uptempo if you can direct me to it!

thanks!

say...don't ya know that speed kills!!! lemme think on that and i'll see if i can find something "uptempo" for you. i hadn't really thought about it, but we really don't do anything that fast! hmmm.

Yeah, this is the Hendrix # I keep ragging you about!!!
(all in good fun, Bro).

nah...i don't think this is the tune you're thinking of. at least i can't find anything remotely "hendrix like" in the tune or anything i'm playing on it!

Here's my favorite.

https://soundcloud.com/planetguy-1/there-pentazz

schmed...i know you gots da mad love for that song!


Talbot...thanks for the listen and kind words.

More good stuff. I've been noticing how these tunes would really benefit from the addition of a piano. (Did I just say that? Shameless...) I assume you've charted all this stuff?

gracias mi amigo!


i have a chart for this one that i wrote out for our sax man....he and i are both pretty lazy. he wants me to write a chart for even the simplest things and i'm too lazy to write charts. we meet somewhere in the middle.

most of my tunes are pretty straightforward and when we're playing three piece like in these videos, it's ME playing the head so i don't need no stinkin' chart. Bill (bass man) will sometimes write a chord chart if he needs one, but tries to commit as much (as quickly as he can) to memory.

as for your shameless pulling on my coat about adding keys ....you know, i've not played vibes in many situations (PJAZZ is the only 2nd band i've "vibed" with).

and this is the first and only (reduntant much?) band i've played jazz gtr or jazz mando with.

That first band Triplicity, started as a trio w me on vibes, an elec piano, and elec bass. Before longed we morphed into a 6 pc w vibes, keys, gtr, bass, drums, and percussion. It was a fun band w good players and we did mostly originals with some standards thrown in.

So...that was a pretty thick soup that i got to cut my "mallet teeth" in, having both gtr and keys behind me when i soloed or played a head. We'd spend a lot of prct room time working on not clogging things up too much behind the soloists but it was sometimes a challenge.

That band split up and PJAZZ formed as a quartet w me on bass, and keys, sax/clarinet, and drums.....after awhile the keyboardist moved and we (saxman, drummer man, and me on bass) tried to keep things as a quartet. We had a few other musicians come and go (for awhile we had another sax man w a more modern style than the other guy...THAT was a seriously fun lineup...bass, drums, and two saxes w no harmony instrument!) I LOVE playing bass w no harmony inst (gtr, keys) to muck things up!

eventually it ended up back as a three pc w the three remaining original guys and we played as bass, sax, and drums for awhile (this is my wife's fave lineup). then the sax man retired from his day gig and for the 4 yrs they spend spring and summers up in WI.

So finding ourself w/o him for 6 mos a yr...we brought in Bill to play bass w us and i moved over to gtr and vibes. (i've recently started playing elec mando because i wasn't carrying enough friggin' equip to gigs!)

All this long winded background stuff to say....at first i had some concerns about playing vibes w such a naked and exposed trio instrumentation. (i'm not a "legit" vibist by any stretch) But very quickly i came to really dig the bare bones nature of the trio approach (remember...previously i was used to having both gtr and keys behind me). It's been good for me, making me get my fecal matter together by not being able to lean on a gtr or keys behind me.

And truth be told, 'm also not a big fan of keys/acoustic piano w vibes....it can work and tons of great classic recordings out there to bear that out....but things easily get cluttered and the voices of the two instr are often way too close to allow enough breathing room to allow the vibes to speak the way i prefer hearing them.

And ...i do like playing gtr and mando w just bass and drums behind it. I like the ability a trio lineup affords to turn quicker on a dime to take things in different directions....plus, i think it's also easier for non musicians and those unfamiliar w jazz to see/hear only three instr/musicians and figure out what the hell is going on, and who's playing what w/o being overwhelmed by too much info. Let's face it, people's attention spans AIN'T what they used to be.

It's funny...you're the second guy in as many days to joke about sitting in/playing w us. And like i told him, if you're ever in the area.....we'll leave a light on for ya!

this a an old tune of mine we recently started doing...."Gone Goodbye"

OK DP, you keep asking for charts and I told you I had 'em and you give me the brush-off.
What's up w/ that?? Never mind.........................

Eh? Ok, I'm confused--these are actually your tunes? Or did P-guy send you the charts? I mentioned it because he said he might be down here again in Dec. for a month; thought it would be fun to play this stuff. But hey, I'm not lookin' to cause any problems...

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Yeah, this is the Hendrix # I keep ragging you about!!!
(all in good fun, Bro).

nah...i don't think this is the tune you're thinking of. at least i can't find anything remotely "hendrix like" in the tune or anything i'm playing on it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyqC6_TgLOo

RIGHT YOU ARE...that line in the B section of "Gone Goodbye"!!! gottit.

but you know what, that is a pretty common move.... play the root....jump up an 8ve...down to minor seventh.....

here's a much earlier example of that move....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQYXn1DP38s

i have a chart for this one that i wrote out for our sax man....he and i are both pretty lazy. he wants me to write a chart for even the simplest things and i'm too lazy to write charts. we meet somewhere in the middle.

You can do that when you've worked w/ guys for a while and have a good feel for where they'll go. It's true these aren't overly complex and leave good openings for improvisation--like jazz should. Under such circumstances, just having the structure charted out (w/ the changes) is plenty good. We're all lazy when it comes to putting stuff on paper. Miles used to use scraps of this-and-that (napkins, used envelopes, scrap bits of paper, etc.). I had (what I thought was) a good tune workin' in my noggin a couple weeks ago, had worked out the changes...but didn't write anything down. A commercial w/ some insipid ditty came on the TV and washed it away. And now it's gone...

I like the vibes; reminds me of Spyro Gyra. And your guitar licks would work well w/ a clean piano. Lotsa folks don't get nuance and just wanna blast away and push out front. I only know 1 guy down here who does get it--Greg--but we don't get to work together much. I should get in touch and see what he's been doing.