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#263240 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Sun Jul 24, 2016 3:07 pm
Paleopete wrote:Trump will have to appoint her replacement too, I never expected her to last this long.

And yeah, Trump will be our next President. His opposition is giving it to him as fast as they can. Everything they do ends up helping him, every verbal attack comes back and bites them on the ass...even those in his own party refusing to abide by their pledge and endorse Trump is going to end up working in his favor, just like the really bad job of a speech Ted Cruz pulled off last night...only to get booed off the stage. I loved it...And all Trump did was hand him some more rope...he knew two hours in advance what was in Cruz' speech. He let him go ahead anyway, a calculated risk, and it payed off well.

Never underestimate Donald Trump.




Hey Pete,


Your wife is a whore and your dad killed Kennedy.



I'll be awaiting your endorsement.....


What did you expect Cruz to do? He would be a pu**y if he endorsed Trump. It was a calculated risk. If Trump doesn't end up being our best President ever, Cruz will be known as the "Churchill" of this era.

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#263242 by Badstrat
Sun Jul 24, 2016 6:02 pm
"What did you expect Cruz to do? "

Ummmmmm, Keep his word and stand by his pledge to support the nominee no matter who it is?

If you can go back on your word because of personal feelings over a few words how much easier would it be to go back on your campaign promises, just like all other politicians, on an issue much more serious? Most politicians lie and sink to the lowest denominator when running for office. Some are simply quicker to revert to their sleazy tactics. But this is the nature of their hearts, so it is a good thing for the onlooker to see and evaluate.

I liked Cruz because of his implied honesty and the fact that he said he keeps his word. This shoots that claim in the as$. It would be better to call trump out for his lies and declare that for the purpose of unity in fighting the other candidate only, you will keep your word, and that in spite of the fact that you view trump as a deplorable person.

Blessed is the man who keeps his vow even to his own hurt. Does that mean I trust trump? Only as far as I could throw him with the little finger on my weaker hand.. :)
#263246 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Sun Jul 24, 2016 7:30 pm
Badstrat wrote:If you can go back on your word because of personal feelings over a few words how much easier would it be to go back on your campaign promises, just like all other politicians, on an issue much more serious?


Most politicians lie and sink to the lowest denominator when running for office. Some are simply quicker to revert to their sleazy tactics. But this is the nature of their hearts, so it is a good thing for the onlooker to see and evaluate.

I liked Cruz because of his implied honesty and the fact that he said he keeps his word. This shoots that claim in the as$. It would be better to call trump out for his lies and declare that for the purpose of unity in fighting the other candidate only, you will keep your word, and that in spite of the fact that you view trump as a deplorable person.

Blessed is the man who keeps his vow even to his own hurt. Does that mean I trust trump? Only as far as I could throw him with the little finger on my weaker hand.. :)




Like I said, he would be considered a big pu**y if he didn't stand up for his wife and his dad. Trump crossed many lines in the primaries and is getting a pass for it by most. I'm glad Cruz didn't suck up like several other leeches did. That's why we sent him from Texas. He really has principles, like him or not. Personally I hate all politicians, including Cruz, yet he's the only one honorable enough to stand up and say what we're thinking in Dallas. I'll deal with his arrogance as a separate issue.

He could have just said he doesn't endorse him and stayed away like many did. Give him credit for having the guts to say it to Trump's face. But watch....he will one day be considered a Winston Churchill hero for doing this by the time you find out who Trump really is.

He said " consider the constitution and vote your conscience" (paraphrasing) and to most in this election that means anything but Hillary, so as Gingrich pointed out he did endorse Trump.
#263247 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Sun Jul 24, 2016 7:44 pm
Jookeyman wrote:
yod wrote:..................... and your dad killed Kennedy.


Ted-
Funny how Cruz bailed immediately after this 'urban legend' came out in the press.
Was that a coincidence?? :?:

Yes, Trump is friends w/ The National Inquirer. And someone saw Elvis @ a gas station in North Dakota yesterday. But when you put together all of the evidence and view the video, things don't look too good for Ted on this issue. Yes, the evidence is all circumstantial but when you add it all up............it doesn't look good, that's all I'm saying.





Trump got away with making a lot of false innuendos and then playing off the false narrative he created like this one, like Carson dropping out of Iowa, etc.

Responding to a lie is stupid for a politician. It only makes you look guilty and Cruz played this by the book.

Not sure why anyone thinks Cruz should endorse that?


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#263271 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:32 am
YOD. I LOVE CRUZ. I love his principles based on our constitution.
BUT...
He is not a rock star like you. As reprehensible as it is we need a rock star, not another politician to help...
Stop the next civil war.

Just an aside.... Thanks for pointing out NVDA. :) I'm not going to have to work next year, and maybe the next, after that :)
#263272 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:53 am
angelsshotgun wrote:As reprehensible as it is we need a rock star, not another politician to help...



He is the anti-politician. Trump is establishment compared to him.

But that fight is over and he lost. he came across as a sore loser, I'll grant you, but again he'd be a pu**y if he endorsed Trump after the personal insults he endured from a guy who has no moral authority and no firm position on anything in his history. he will follow whichever way the wind blows, as I'm confident you will see....

hopefully the wind is blowing our way in America.



Stop the next civil war.



See, here is where I really disagree with you. i think Trump is going to be the catalyst for that, and it will come from the Left.




Just an aside.... Thanks for pointing out NVDA. :) I'm not going to have to work next year, and maybe the next, after that :)


I bet you will. Glad to help.




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#263285 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:55 am
Ya know Ted. You are right. But I'm getting older and the funny thing about that is you start counting your blessings more than your complaints.
Sorry Ted... Knowing you will always be one of my blessings. G.
#263287 by Paleopete
Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:07 pm
Cruz, along with all the others, signed a pledge. Not just words in a campaign speech, signed, legal and binding. And failed to honor that written promise. I don't care what Trump said, I don't care if it was true or not, you sign your name to an agreememainly tnt, you keep it. Just think what the same butt hurt politicians would be saying right now it if were Trump that lost and refused to keep the same pledge.

This was done mainly to make sure Trump would not run as a 3rd party candidate if he lost the primary, and to ensure his endorsement even if he hated the winner. They signed it themselves, now Cruz, Bush and Kasich have refused to honor their WRITTEN promise. Written down in black and white, not a verbal campaign promise we all knew would never see the light of day after the election. The whole comical process was to set a trap for Trump, now that it backfired, they refuse to comply, as they would surely expect him to do.

Trump said things in the primary I wasn't a fan of, things he probably shouldn't have said, so did everyone else. So what, they still signed a written promise, period. Sign a loan agreement to buy a house and you can't refuse to make the payments because the loan officer at the bank said he doesn't like your 12 year old punk kid dressed like a thug...try that one when it goes to court.

Cruz didn't care what he said about Trump, it's politics so he can shrug off anything. But when Trump says something he doesn't like it's a different story? I don't care of it was over any line, I don't care if it was true or not, that does not change the signature Cruz put on that pledge. It's still a written promise, period, I expect him to keep it, period.

I was originally a big time Cruz fan, until his campaign morphed from elect Ted to Stop Trump. Once he bent over for the establishment, he lost me entirely. This is not about Cruz having any integrity, it's about Cruz being bought and paid for by the status quo politicians who want to keep their little gravy train from being derailed. He lied, on paper. Deal with it.
#263289 by Badstrat
Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:39 pm
Lie about one thing lie about anything.
#263290 by DainNobody
Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:46 pm
hence, "Lyin' Ted" :D
#263291 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Tue Jul 26, 2016 3:28 pm
Paleopete wrote: I don't care what Trump said,



of course you don't.

It's a hallmark characteristic of the Trumpies


I'm sure you also don't care that long-standing rules were broken to make sure that Trump didn't get challenged at the convention. Why do you expect everyone else to follow the rules when Trump does not?

Really sad.





I was originally a big time Cruz fan, until his campaign morphed from elect Ted to Stop Trump. Once he bent over for the establishment, he lost me entirely.


That's just another bullshit lie of Trump that you are repeating. Funny that no one in the "establishment" will claim him, but that lie keeps getting passed around by lo-info Trumpies. It's pure propaganda. Tell a lie long enough and people start believing it.

Trump is as much "the establishment" as Hillary. Hell, he funded her for years....what was that about if he isn't a major cog in the establishment wheel? Now he has learned how to game the system with lies and bribes, and you can swallow that if you want.

Show me just ONE person in the "establishment" that supported Cruz!? Show me ONE person who has worked harder to defund Planned Parenthood or Obama's disastrous spending? Show me ONE person who has stood up before Congress and called them LIARS publicly?

http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/ ... eech.html/


I'd say he kept his integrity by not endorsing that real liar in this race.



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#263292 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Tue Jul 26, 2016 3:42 pm
Badstrat wrote:Lie about one thing lie about anything.




Yep, and that is the choice of the people who choose Trump.

Again....I hate them all, but Cruz was the only one in the race who has ever kept a promise and did what he was sent to do. He is an arrogant snit and I don't like his "style", but he keeps his word.

Donald, on the other hand, is very likable as a person but is far too impulsive to be Presidential, imo. There is as much chance that he will be a disaster, as otherwise.

Unfortunately, he is still a better choice than the wicked witch of the west.


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#263293 by Badstrat
Tue Jul 26, 2016 3:59 pm
"He is an arrogant snit and I don't like his "style", but he keeps his word. "

Huh?? That in response to a post about Cruz breaking his pledge to support the presidential candidate no matter who it may be?

Anyone running for political office has already been corrupted.
#263299 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:00 pm
Badstrat wrote:"He is an arrogant snit and I don't like his "style", but he keeps his word. "

Huh?? That in response to a post about Cruz breaking his pledge to support the presidential candidate no matter who it may be?

Anyone running for political office has already been corrupted.



Look man....you publicly call my wife a whore and accuse my dad of murder, and getting my endorsement will be the least of your worries.

Either way he went was going make someone upset. I'd rather see him keep his integrity than be a pu**y.


While we're on the topic of "keeping your word" the Don has already cancelled 2 events since his coronation. Don't know his reason for the latest unfulfilled engagement, but the first one he cancelled so he could stay home and tweet insults instead.


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