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#25960 by gbheil
Fri Mar 21, 2008 3:58 pm
Thanx for the heads up I'll check it out.

#26232 by badnomad
Mon Mar 24, 2008 3:47 pm
The VOX Vavetronix seems to have all the virtues of the Valvestate, with none of it's flaws. 120W, 2/12" speakers....This amp achieves nice lows, and cuts through even a loud mix. As far as effects go, the Vox has amp excellent amp modelling as well as a selection of effects......If you want something more, I would recomment the Digitech pedals. They are simple to program, hard to screw up while using, and won't break the bank like a BOSS or Line 6.

#26237 by gbheil
Mon Mar 24, 2008 3:58 pm
I am not famillar with VOX or DIGITECH, I will do some reaserch Thanks for the info.

#26248 by badnomad
Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:38 pm
VOX is one of the original 'Big Three' most poular amps, along with Marshall and Fender they ruled the '60's on. Originally British-made, now in the US.......The Beatles, and the entire 'British Invasion' was based on VOX amps. The AC-30 and AC-15 are as legendary as the Tweed, or the Marshall stack. Digitech is a relative newcomer, less than 10 years, I think, but they are making some great effects pedals, that, IMHO, are better engineered, and more user-friendly than their competitors......the electronics are basically the same across the board, but some companies like Roland (BOSS), and Line 6, fell a need to gouge the customer for the name-brand

#40749 by kels
Mon Sep 08, 2008 5:37 am
Rocksolidamps.com

Check out ENGL. ufdah!! for metal players these are the best high gain amps in my opinion. If you can afford them. check out the powerball, invader, and savage models. very nice amp heads! listen to them on youtube as well!

#40776 by philbymon
Mon Sep 08, 2008 2:33 pm
I'm sure that Digitech has been around way longer than 10 yrs, but I second the point that they're good effects pedals. One guy I worked with used them, & I consider him to be the "king of tone," at least around here.

Didn't they buy out DOD? I liked DOD stuff, too, & have a couple of their pedals. Never had a prob with them.

#40926 by Paleopete
Wed Sep 10, 2008 11:57 am
Feel like a road trip? Guitar store here P G Guitars sells amps built by a local guy, Oppermann Amplification. I've played several, all tube and they sound great. He usually goes for low wattage 1x12 rigs, not often above 30 watts or so and they sound absolutely killer. He also builds some with switches to modify preamp sections for more or less gain, a couple that can handle different power tubes with just a change of a knob, and one that was around 5 watts that I plugged into a 4x12 cab and it would sound like anything from clean to Ted Nugent...

http://www.pgguitars.com/

Note the "security department" at bottom...Rosco might just lick you to death...
#41025 by ColorsFade
Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:13 pm
sanshouheil wrote:Some of you guys who have more playing experience, perhaps you can shead some light on a subject for me. I want more tone varience and effect from my strat to meet the need of the different types of music we play. I currently use boss pedals into my PA. How were effects achieved before all of this digital technology? Are there truly advantages in tube vs solid state amps. and what are the disadvantages? I need a metal or very heavy rock sound, a well differentiated blues tone as well as a clean soft tone to match or enhance the acoustic sound of our other guitarist.
Any Ideas ?


To answer the overall question: I think a Mesa Boogie Triaxis is ideal for versatility. I own a Triaxis preamp with a 2:90 power amp and couldn't be happier; very warm tones, very smooth leads. Great distortion - awesome lead tones. It has 8 separate circuits, so there's essentially 8 separate amps in the box. You can get anything from modern crunch to vintage distortion tones, several types of clean channels and nice leads.

There's 128 programmable channels on the Triaxis - you can store more preset tones than you'll probably ever need. With a simple midi footswitch (I use a Rocktron Midi-mate) you can get to any tone in your arsenal quickly and easily. On some songs I'm switching between as many as 5-6 different tones during the course of a song. The footswitch makes it instantaneous (and with my effects unit I can also switch effects at the same time I switch tones on the amp). I'm all about simplicity, and with a setup like this you can switch tones all night long with one tap of your foot. The only drawback is that you have to spend time up-front programming in all the tones you want. But I consider this a huge win because I only have to program a tone (and matching group of effects) one time - and then I never have to mess with it again. Plus, my effects unit is rack-mounted (as is the Triaxis and 2:90 power amp) so I don't have footpedals and stomp boxes all over the place. My setup and teardown time for my gear is minimal - I just have to plug in the power conditioner to a wall and I'm ready to go.

There's one other thing I'd recommend you have, regardless of which amp you buy: a BB Preamp. It has great sustain without coloring the tone - just a really great box to augment your sound. It will make any amp sound better.

Of course, the caveat with all Mesa Boogie equipment is that it's expensive stuff. So if budget is a concern (and for most musicians it is) then the Triaxis/2:90 combo is out of reach. However, Mesa makes some GREAT combo amps (like the Lone Star), and with a BB Preamp I think you could get a whole lot of great tones for a reasonable price.

As for the tube/solid state thing: almost universally guitar players will tell you that tubes simply sound better. They're warmer, they have a better tone, better response and they just flat out sound better. The only disadvantage to a tube amp (and I consider this minor) is that you do eventually have to replace the tubes, and they are not always cheap.

Preamps typically use 12AX7 type of tubes (very small). I just replaced all five of my 12AX7's (I put a different type of tube in every slot, because they affect the 8 circuits in different ways) and it ran me just over $100 for all five.

Power amps use bigger tubes. My 2:90 has 6 6L6's. Those get spendy. Like someone else in this thread said, about $200 to replace all of them. But considering you probably only have to do that every couple of years, it's a small investment for great tone (I think).


If I were you I'd buy an amp for sure and stop playing through the P.A. And I'd definitely try out everything before you buy anything. Before I bought my Mesa gear, I played at least half a dozen different name brand amps. At the time, in fact, I had no idea Mesa Boogie existed. I knew Marshal, Crate, Peavy, etc. I played through everything I could find, and then I accidentally found the Boogies. And it only took once for me to be sold on the tone quality.

The most important thing you can do in the Quest For Tone is play through as many different types of amps as possible. Go to stores and play through them - and KEEP NOTES! Take a notepad with you to the store and write down what you liked and what you did not. If versatility is key, note that.

Good luck in your quest!

#41112 by Paleopete
Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:11 am
In addition to the guitar store I mentioned earlier, I just looked at a Peavey Classic 50 4x10 model in a local pawn shop, it will be out on the shelf soon at $300 or lower. The guy knows me, took me in back and showed it to me and asked what it was worth. I'm not sure what the new price is, but I know $300 is a good price for it used and in good condition. No rips in the covering, not beat up, no rust on the control plate, good looking amp but I haven't heard it yet, can't plug it in and try it till it's on the sales floor. From what he said that should be real soon. And it's a tube amp.

Another pawn shop here had a Traynor 60 watt tube combo for $400 a while back, it may be still sitting there, I'm not sure, haven't been in there lately.

So check out the pawn shops, you never know what will turn up. That's where most of my guitars came from...

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