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Live Updates — Terror in Orlando: Approximately 20 dead, 42 Wounded at Gay Nightclub

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... nightclub/

by Breitbart News12 Jun 20160
12 Jun, 2016 12 Jun, 201

* Shots rang out early Sunday morning at a gay bar in Orlando, Florida
* Early reports suggest that this approximately 20 people are dead and dozens more are injured
* If these numbers are confirmed, it is the highest body count from a terror attack on American soil since 9/11/01.
* The FBI has suggested that the attacker could have ‘leanings to radical Islamic terrorism’

I'm going to make an (easy) prediction about how the Obama/Clinton administration will respond.


This is a muslim. I say this before the news has released any information about the jihadi who did this. 99% of people in this world don't have to wait for it to be announced, because it only takes common sense.


1. Obama will order his political machine to squash any federal agencies from calling this "islamic" though the entire planet knows that it is. My guess is that they will attempt to characterize this a "hate crime" instead, because it happened in a gay bar. You will hear them address "fundamentalism" (attempting to equate Christians with Islamists). They won't call this "Jihad", it will be labeled "Mass shootings" (because the gun did it!).

2. Their solution will be to disarm law-abiding Americans because of "religious fundamentalists" (their euphemism for Christians who vote Republican).

3. Trump will have no problem giving the obvious analysis about the nature of this jihad attack, and no qualms about calling this what it is, WAR with Islamic terrorism attacking America. He will be hammering Clinton for taking Obama's position on Islamic jihad over the last 8 years.
THIS IS THE ONLY REASON why Hillary will attempt to look like she's getting a backbone about terrorism, but her closest advisor is Huma Abedin, who is connected to the highest levels of Muslim Brotherhood so she will continue to deflect the obvious muslim connection.

Of course Obama/Clinton will talk tough in contrived press conferences, but their record shows they are cowards who will use this tragedy to attack only their political opposition.

4. This will drive more people into voting for Trump out of fear, because the Left has been such hypocritical deceptive cowards. Trump will not allow political correctness into the crime analysis process. Protecting their political asses is the ONLY concern the modern Democrat party has.

We don't have any good choices in this election, but the worst choice has already shown that she doesn't care when innocent people are killed by radical muslims.




OK....que the Dept of Propaganda at Google, NBC, NYT, and NPR....rolling in 5, 4, 3, 2.....


Does anyone wish to bet that my predictions are wrong? No? I didn't think so...


By the way, this is happening because of the STUPIDITY of Obama not finishing what Bush started in Iraq. History will show that Bush was 100% correct in taking the fight to them to stop them from coming to us again. That's what we will have to do (AGAIN) if we're serious about ending jihad on our soil.

So many heroes wasted for Obama's phony political legacy.




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Now they are saying 50 dead on the news networks. All morning there wasn't a single word about it on the news.
They were still busy burying Ali though

.Now it is being reported.

I am confident that obama will come out and tell it like it is. It was the worst case of workplace violence he has seen so far.

Obama comes on at 1:30 PM EST

Orlando has been a hotbed of violence .. some girl singer was murdered just the night before.. Quincy Jones mad a brief statement about her talent..so she must have been a "somebody"

A contestant on The Voice. That (sadly) is about as big as it gets in the music business these days.

I lived in Orlando from 1986 to 1990, only time in my life I have ever been burglarized..

Most recent report as of a few minutes ago, 11AM CST, 50 dead, 53 in hospitals.

So far Trump sent out a tweet calling it probably a terrorist attack, he chose his words well and said probably, not definitely. Clinton put out a tweet, nothing about terrorism. She's probably trying to figure out a way to deny it right now. Correction, her political pollsters are figuring out how to tell her to say it.

Ted - I think you're probably right across the board, Obama will call it senseless violence, since it's not at a job site or related to the employees. He'll probably also call it a hate crime. That's already hitting the airwaves. I think MSNBC is already squawking about gun control but I didn't see the entire interview, I only caught the last of it. A FBI guy was saying sure, you can stop all gun sales, but years from now you'll still see people with guns. He said we need to change the attitudes and mentality, not the gun laws. So I can't say for sure, but it sounded like MSNBC was already yelling gun control no more than 8 hours after it happened. Yeah I really did check MSNBC, I wanted to see what they were saying. Sometimes it's fun listening to moonbats...CNN was talking about it but I didn't watch long enough to get an idea what angle they were pushing.

I've heard a couple of people already saying Obama should not politicize it, good luck with that. He'll politicize it as much as possible, squeal about gun control...oops, common sense gun laws...(yeah right) and blalme enybody but muslims, telling us how peaceful they are.

So far officials are still saying there is a good chance it is terrorist related, but they don't want to say for sure until they get deeper into the investigation, which is a good call. Don't call it till you have enough info. It is being investigated as a domestic terrorist attack, just heard that a few seconds ago. Same thing they said at first press conference around 7 this morning. They were also careful then, and now, to say it's not for sure, but seriously suspected.


Building was cleared about an hour ago, they were working on his van at that time. Mayor and police officials did pretty well, very supportive of law enforcement.

I can't think of anything else right now, don't remember what time next press conference is scheduled. Fla Governor just said "this is clearly an act of terrorism" a few seconds ago. Maybe he knows more than we've heard so far, but he's the first person I've heard say it was definitely a terrorist attack. Most are saying probably, nobody has been willing to commit a statement till now. Which I think is the right way to handle it, don't say for sure until you have sufficient evidence.

Ahhh here it goes, some woman on FOX right now already talking about how do people like this get guns, talking about "reform"...there she goes saying people can buy guns at gun shows without background checks...OK it was a black female Fla Senator, didn't catch the name. Where do these people get this nonsense? Gun shows require background checks same as retail dealers, pawn shops etc. And so far no word on whether this guy got his legally or not.

Already the maggots have begun crawling out of the bodies.

First we have the news media politicizing this travesty by comparing trumps tweets to hillarys tweets and why trumps tweets are insensitive and bad and hillarys are good. That didn't take long.

Then we have the, well, you know..... I just want to say that um- um- um- ah- ah- a-a- ah- aha- we shouldn't jump to conclusions about Islam - um- um- we need to get guns out of the hands of all responsible Americans so only the crooks can -um-uh - ah um -a-a-a- where the hell is my teleprompter?

And the gun control folks are sure to get their fair share of time for months passing more control legislation to punish a few hundred million responsible legal gun owners over the sins of one who was a whacked out Muslim terrorist. Why blame the weapon and not Islam? These anti second political hacks are already popping up all over the place.

It took Pravda, the mainstream news media, hours to get their propaganda line straight before reporting a thing about it. Meanwhile it was all over the internet long before that.

The big question is this: How long can the politicians and Pravda spin this to best represent and push their total control agenda? Days? Weeks? Months? Up until the day of the vote?

Trupmp's tweet was all about himself:
Appreciate the congrats for being right on radical Islamic terrorism, I don't want congrats, I want toughness & vigilance. We must be smart!
Trump's facebook post:
While I greatly appreciate everybody congratulating me for being right on radical Islamic terrorism, I don't want congratulations, I want toughness and vigilance. We must finally be smart!

Clinton's tweet:
Woke up to hear the devastating news from FL. As we wait for more information, my thoughts are with those affected by this horrific act. -H
Clinton's facebook post:
I join Americans in praying for the victims of the attack in Orlando, their families and the first responders who did everything they could to save lives.
This was an act of terror. Law enforcement and intelligence agencies are hard at work, and we will learn more in the hours and days ahead. For now, we can say for certain that we need to redouble our efforts to defend our country from threats at home and abroad. That means defeating international terror groups, working with allies and partners to go after them wherever they are, countering their attempts to recruit people here and everywhere, and hardening our defenses at home. It also means refusing to be intimidated and staying true to our values.
This was also an act of hate. The gunman attacked an LGBT nightclub during Pride Month. To the LGBT community: please know that you have millions of allies across our country. I am one of them. We will keep fighting for your right to live freely, openly and without fear. Hate has absolutely no place in America.
Finally, we need to keep guns like the ones used last night out of the hands of terrorists or other violent criminals. This is the deadliest mass shooting in the history of the United States and it reminds us once more that weapons of war have no place on our streets.
This is a time to stand together and resolve to do everything we can to defend our communities and country.

Obama Ignores Radical Islamic Terrorism Connection, Calls for Gun Control

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... onnection/

by Charlie Spiering12 Jun 20160
12 Jun, 2016 12 Jun, 2016

President Barack Obama reacted to the news of the mass shooting at an Orlando gay nightclub on Sunday, referring to the attacks as an act of terror and an act of hate.

Speaking to reporters in the White House briefing room Sunday afternoon, Obama reminded them that law enforcement officials still didn’t know all the facts of the case and would follow the facts of the investigation to identify the motive.

What is clear is that he was a person filled with hatred, Obama said. Over the coming days, we’ll uncover how and why this happens and we’ll go wherever the facts lead us.

But Obama ignored the connection to radical Islamic terrorism, even after news outlets reported that the shooter made a call to a Florida 911 center to pledge allegiance to ISIS.

Instead, Obama echoed the calls for more gun control from anti-gun activists, reminding Americans how easy it is for criminals to get guns. <<<

Oh Yeah. Criminals and terrorists can always obtain bargain basement guns left over from obamas "Fast and Furious illegal gun distribution to the Mexican drug cartels.. Mexican drug lords would like the added income going to them as opposed to the criminal black market. Just good honest Capitalism, you understand.

See? Cowardice is so predictable.

Obama called it "terror and hate" and then tried the same tired deception in saying there was no evidence of Islamic tie yet. BULLSHIT.

The FBI knew this was Islamic terrorism immediately. My guess is that they were afraid of retribution from the Justice Department and Obama so they were very careful about having all the evidence in hand before actually uttering those words publicly. But this would have been a local police investigation if they didn't know it was terrorism in the first place. For Obama to act like he didn't know that is an indication of just how stupid he thinks YOU are.

So Obama would have us believe that they didn't tell him? Yea...poor President was in the dark...just like Ben Ghazi. More fat lies and cowardice.

Hillary & Obama called it terror (note: no mention of Islam) but only because Trump forced them to. The next shoe to drop is the "religious (but not Islamic!) fundamentalist" canard.

Instead, Obama echoed the calls for more gun control from anti-gun activists, reminding Americans how easy it is for criminals to get guns. <<<

You know what? Maybe he's right? We should outlaw all guns. While we're at it we should make theft, rape, and murder illegal too! Oh wait....


What would happen if I wrote a book that called for the murder all gays, lefties, and Jews? What if my book justified the selling of black people into slavery still today? What if my book says men should beat women into submission, and even rape them publicly if they refuse sex on demand?

Do you think it would be a NYT best seller? Or would the book be labeled a "hate crime" and liberals scream for me to do jail time for writing such a hateful book?

Well...I don't have to.

It's called the Koran.





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I guess we will be hearing "We need to take those "automatic" "Assault weapons" from the legal law abiding citizens" from the puppet propagandists every three minutes for months on end again. CBS was trying to sandbag trump this morning by asking him how he feels about " automatic assault weapons" Naturally trump let that stand instead of pointing out that there is no such thing as an assault weapon and secondly that it is only a SEMI-automatic rifle used for small game hunting and target practice and it only looks like a military weapon. (But then these are the same manner of morons who expel children from school for making a gun with their fingers or eating a cookie to form the shape of a gun.) Every time trump began to answer her with an answer that didn't fit her programmed liberal agenda she began loudly talking over him with her moronic diatribe. Rude stupid propagandizing media lairs one and all.

Why not just tell it like it is. The government wants you defenseless, not from criminals on the streets, but form the criminals that run government against the wishes of the people. The spineless cowardly bastards are afraid that as long as the citizen has anything to protect him from the elected tyrants knocking down their door in the middle of the night and throwing you into a dissenters prison they can't have total unrestrained power over the citizens.. And that is the only reason these Communist/Marxist/Socialist bastards want your "Automatic Assault Weapons", as they call them.. But not to mention Islam or Muslims and the Quran as being the root problem

So stupid that they do not understand this:....... First our liberty and rights will be taken... and then theirs. Didn't many Communists & Marxists kill all those who helped them grab power so that they couldn't do the same to them? Food for thought propagandist media..

Face it - it wasn't a "terrorist attack", it was one fu*cked up individual.

"After the shooting began, he called 911 to pledge his allegiance to ISIS, according to law enforcement officials."
ISIS supporters have cheered the massacre online and an ISIS communique referred to the shooter as an ISIS "fighter," but there’s no evidence that ISIS directed or had prior knowledge of the attack, terrorism observers told ABC News.

https://gma.yahoo.com/orlando-shooters- ... Redirect=1

Small game hunting with an AR15? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-15 I guess if you want to blow the 'small game' into a zillion little pieces!

I think the key to the crux of this, was it INSPIRED by Daesh or DIRECTED by them..then we will know if it's truly a terrorist attack or a massacre..