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#26123 by Craig Maxim
Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:04 am
Irminsul wrote:

Unfortunately for you, you are neither "right" on this subject nor is being "right" so deadly important for me. You have your ego too invested in these things Craig, and they don't make you look very good.




Irminsul, the only thing I'm "invested" in, is finding truth.

I don't care what the truth is. Meaning, I have no peronal investment in what the truth will turn out to be. I simply want the truth, and I am open to WHATEVER the truth may be.

I have no preconceived ideas of how I "want" something to turn out.

It is meaningless to me.

Even if the truth somehow turned out to be, that I lived in the most shameful country on Earth, I would accept it, and work to make it better. I would never lie about anyone or anything, because I was ashamed of the truth. You cannot grow or improve anything, without beginning from a place of absolute honesty about it.

Your accussation really offends me.

My character is much better than that.

#26125 by Irminsul
Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:21 am
Good, you need to be offended, because you are starting to insert your nose so far up the asses of the right wing that you can smell what they had for breakfast.

Sickening.

#26128 by Craig Maxim
Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:46 am
Irminsul wrote:

I guess you don't know much about Richardson.

He is a stalwart of the DLC, that is the Hillary wing (conservative) of the Democratic party. He and Bill are good friends...



OMG! LOL

This is politics.

He is such a good friend to the Clintons that he RAN FOR PRESIDENT AGAINST BILL'S WIFE!!!!!!!!

----> AGAINST BILL'S WIFE!!!!

Did you FORGET that part?


But yeah, Hillary would still welcome his support, he is a superdelegate after all.

Hillary: "Hey Billy, come support me, we'll forgive you and get you a nice position! All is forgiven!"

Richardson's Thoughts: "Yeah, nice position huh? Like Ambassador to Mexico or something."

Richardson has almost NOTHING to gain from Hillary. He knows that.


1) He ran for president against her

2) His precinct captains were rumored to have told Iowan voters that if Richardson did not meet the threshhold for viability, to vote for Obama. That would win him points too, in a Clinton administration. NOT

3) QUOTE: “Whoever has the most delegates after Tuesday, a clear lead, should be, in my judgment, the nominee.” Richardson made that statement on Face the Nation.

"Whoever?" (wink wink) Obama had a clear lead at the time, and was expected to keep it all the way through. So, he had already PUBLICLY set up his excuse for going with Obama, without being labelled a traitor to friendship.

There was nothing surprising in this endorsement, for anyone paying attention.

What does he gain for being with Obama...

1) A MUCH higher position in his administration than hers, for the reasons stated above.

2) Maybe even a shot at VP, cause there would STILL be two "firsts" and Obama doesn't have to deal with the negativity of Clinton being the other "first" which are considerable. Clinton NEEDS Obama. Obama doesn't need Hillary. Richardson brings the Hispanic vote to Obama, which he needs help with.

3) He gets to look heroic: "Even at the expense of friendship, I did the "right" thing, for the sake of the party."


Look man, with the heat Obama is taking over Wright, Richardson's stock in the Obama camp, went WAY WAY up suddenly.

Obama NEEDED something to take the heat off him, and reinvigorate his campaign, and Richardson throwing his support, not only is a good endorsement, but being a superdelegate, he may encourage other superdelegates to get off the fence and go ahead and sew this up for Obama.

THAT IS HUGE!!!

He should expect to be ROYALLY rewarded by Obama for all that. Whether VP, or something else very high level.

What other decision could he make?

His opportunity arrived. He knew it.

He'll be owed BIGTIME!

#26129 by Irminsul
Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:06 am
You're good at googling but bad on actual knowledge.

Richardson and The Big Dawg (Bill Clinton) are so close they get together to watch football games. Richardson is a DLC Dem who has been loyal to that wing, until he couldn't make himself deny Obama's strength any longer.

Good on Richardson. And, I hope Obama's opponents keep underestimating his strength. Really, I do.

#26131 by Craig Maxim
Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:50 am
Irminsul wrote:
You're good at googling but bad on actual knowledge.


I read lots of articles from the net, everything from all the typical news sources, to english versions of foreign media, to liberal rags like The Huffington Post and Mother Jones. I also watch (or listen) to news channels and education channels all day long. I'm both a news junkie and a history buff. I have been since I was in my 20's.

I have a pretty fair knowledge about many things.

I would say it is you who is resistant to facts, not me.

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