General Music Chat

You didn't appreciate it because you were probably not interested in it at the time.

bingo. It was what the "old fogies" (30+) were into.

But Chenier was a pioneer. He was mixing his native Zydeco w/ other genres creating an unique genre of his own. I had a very cool documentary about him shot in the 70s that I just lost because I had my DVR replaced. But he was doing very cool mixes of Blues, R&B and Cajun stuff w/ Zydeco. If you are interested in it, check him out a little closer. If you listen to modern Zydeco you'll get burned out pretty quick because it all begins to sound the same after 3 or 4 tunes. Listen to Chenier and he's mixing it up w/ different tempos and flavors that draw you in.

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yeah, now I appreciate what he did though I thought it was something common back in that environment. Not sure I would have appreciated it, even knowing that, when I was forging a path to illusive rock stardom.

But yea, every song sounds like "Diggy Diggy High" by Doug Kershaw on a distorted accordian after a half-set. Do you remember that crazy cajun? I dated his cousin in Galveston for a while...

I just would to like add that I agree jimmy page is one of the most over rated guitarists ever now johnny hamblin there was a guitarist along with old gerry reed and chety atkins. I also liked lewd dimwiit of the stafford brothers.

I totally agree about Chet Atkins, and I got to meet him once. He was a kind and gentle person, very humble.

Not sure that Jerry Reed changed much. He was a great entertainer but not as innovative as even Buddy Holly, imo. I could be wrong since Jerry brought a new finger-picking style into country music.

But yet again...I don't think you can judge anyone by what came afterwards...and there was nothing like JP when he burst onto the world. EVERYTHING changed because of his influence.



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Even Jimmy and George cannot back up your claims or prove your point.


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They didn't say they can't play "a" song....they said they haven't mastered the instrument.

And why should they, when they are the leading players of another instrument that pays them so much better? On an instrument that seems quite a bit more challenging both physically and intellectually.

If they were to dedicate their lives to the instrument, they already have more physical ability to expand far beyond anything I've seen Nag do so far.

I mean, she's ok. We just have a different standard of greatness, I suppose. I thought the mandolin kid was more impressive.

One of my closest friends and top supporters is married to a woman from India. He has now dropped a few million making a film in Bollywood that still hasn't been finished, going on 4 years now. I've heard the music, watched the dancing scenes and a few clips of it. Very interesting and supremely talented people all. He's got the biggest stars of India in the movie, and I couldn't tell you the name of any of them...but I've kept up with his project because we're friends. I don't envy what he's going through by working there instead of here, but it is much cheaper.


Here....this is my pianist. When we tour together, Pawel will go off in between a song somewhere completely at random, making it up as he goes, and I rarely had my cell phone on me to record it....but here is but one example. I think what he did in Brussels may be the best clip of him, if you want to see more.

But I believe this was from Den Haag, and I've got clips from other cities where he just creates the most amazing classical piano piece on the spot. No one ever knows when he's going to do it, including him. Pawel produced 2 of my last 3 projects and played on all of them. He also produced many major stars of Poland you wouldn't know of, and Pat Metheny.

I hang out with people like that...and this, sir, is super-human talent.

https://vimeo.com/90166718

I challenge you or anyone else here to name a rock guitarist (or any electric genre) BEFORE Page who could approach his ability and his musical/professional genius. Buddy Holly, Hendrix, or John Lennon are the closest, btw.

That's easy!
Les Paul
https://youtu.be/ZJaNMZmBR6E

Gotta side w/ J on this one Ted.
Les was THE man.

Point conceded on that one.


Jimmy is who really made Les Paul famous though....




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But yea, every song sounds like "Diggy Diggy High" by Doug Kershaw on a distorted accordian after a half-set. Do you remember that crazy cajun? I dated his cousin in Galveston for a while...

Yeah, I remember Kershaw.

You remember Billy Joe White?? I had a good friend that married his niece. But I think they're split up now. Haven't heard from either of them since the mid 80s.

Polk Salad Annie!!!! Oh wait, that's Tony Joe White. Any relation? (see how easy it happens to mix up a name?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRF24LY ... freload=10
Loved that so much....even Elvis' version.

chomp, chomp.



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Jimmy is who really made Les Paul famous though....

I won't concede to that one, Ted.
Other rock guitarists made the Les Paul popular before Page picked one up.
Peter Green and Mike Bloomfield first come to mind.
And don't forget, Page started w/ a Tele in the Yardbyrds and one the first album AND first tour. To me, that first tour was the highlight of his abilities. His chops were faster and cleaner compared to later live tours. Watch the B&W stuff on that DVD they released a while back to see where I'm coming from. Tele through a Rickenbacker amp. He was kicking ass on that tour but I think the drug and alcohol use eroded his abilities later in life, especially after he went to the coil-split PUs on the LP.

First Guitar of Rock and Roll
http://www.vintageguitar.com/22517/firs ... -and-roll/

Jimmy is who really made Les Paul famous though....

I won't concede to that one, Ted.
Other rock guitarists made the Les Paul popular before Page picked one up.
Peter Green and Mike Bloomfield first come to mind.

Who???

(I'm joking, but I defy you to find someone who doesn't play guitar that has ever heard of them)

And don't forget, Page started w/ a Tele in the Yardbyrds and one the first album AND first tour.

And he uses that Tele on almost every recording he does...but what is the picture you have in your mind when you think of JP? That Les Paul swinging down around his ankles.

Yes, he started getting sloppy drunk onstage after they had become super-stars, and then they made some really bad music in the mid 80s instead of retiring as Kings.

However....if you really want to debate this I'm certain of my position. NO ONE sold Les Pauls like Jimmy Page. I once owned 4 of them at the same time because he made them cool.


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