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#260523 by DainNobody
Wed Jun 01, 2016 3:37 pm
and you are free to chastise my musical offerings.. just don't forget , I am not charging you $8,000.00 for 2 weeks of listening ..LOL.. you guys are all good guys in my book.. and all add something to this world that can never be erased..YOUR BEAUTIFUL MUSIC!! we are all different, we all see things from fdifferent perspectives.. we all have different brains with differently wiring within them,, as Slacker has noted, some of us might even be partially brain-dead.. bless his heart :D
#260525 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Wed Jun 01, 2016 3:47 pm
joseph1122539 wrote:I've heard about a half dozen of your tunes.
Nothing you have produced so far, even utilizing what you consider the best musicians,
would lead me to suspect you could ever produce anything I would want to listen to, much less pay to suffer through it.
Even the mildly humorous spectacle of your pompously inflated self assessment is already wearing thin
so yeah, don't be holding your breath!



Like I care what an amateur poser thinks?

Look man, you're the one who started this with your ridiculous assertion that a droning in one key all day could compare to one of the greatest modern innovators of all time.

Speaking of pompous....why don't you show us your music, so we can all objectively compare yours to mine and decide if you know anything at all?



Yea....I didn't think so.
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#260528 by J-HALEY
Wed Jun 01, 2016 4:11 pm
Bwa ha ha ha! He has no idea Ted. Yod is the most successful of all the musicians on this forum 10 times over! Not that poor joseph had any credibility with me what little he had just went out the window.
#260529 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Wed Jun 01, 2016 4:20 pm
J-HALEY wrote:Bwa ha ha ha! He has no idea Ted. Yod is the most successful of all the musicians on this forum 10 times over! Not that poor joseph had any credibility with me what little he had just went out the window.



Thanks Jeff.

I really wasn't trying to start a fight, and I'm not bragging when I say what the lady was doing isn't that tough to imitate. That's not even relevant to the point of this thread though. You are faster than anyone he has shown us.

But I won't lie to myself like he obviously does. There is an objective measure for talent and Page is objectively one of the greatest of all time. Whether someone likes his playing is subjective, and it's fair to hate on him for that....but there is enough documented to show that Page isn't just some run-of-the-mill musician that an old lady in India can compete with.
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#260535 by J-HALEY
Wed Jun 01, 2016 4:56 pm
yod wrote:
J-HALEY wrote:Bwa ha ha ha! He has no idea Ted. Yod is the most successful of all the musicians on this forum 10 times over! Not that poor joseph had any credibility with me what little he had just went out the window.



Thanks Jeff.

I really wasn't trying to start a fight, and I'm not bragging when I say what the lady was doing isn't that tough to imitate. That's not even relevant to the point of this thread though. You are faster than anyone he has shown us.

But I won't lie to myself like he obviously does. There is an objective measure for talent and Page is objectively one of the greatest of all time. Whether someone likes his playing is subjective, and it's fair to hate on him for that....but there is enough documented to show that Page isn't just some run-of-the-mill musician that an old lady in India can compete with.


Played the Big Methuselah album for my girlfriend this past weekend. you have a new fan! I sure like that album!
#260545 by J-HALEY
Wed Jun 01, 2016 7:55 pm
joseph1122539 wrote:
yod wrote:
Like I care what an amateur poser thinks?

Look man, you're the one who started this with your ridiculous assertion that a droning in one key all day could compare to one of the greatest modern innovators of all time.


I made no claims about my abilities.

Yod claims he is on the same level with the top players of Indian classical music,
a musical form he obviously know next to nothing about and has no understanding of.
That makes Yod a POSER, regardless of anything else.

There is an objective measure for talent and Page is objectively one of the greatest of all time.

As for your claim that a majority opinion constituting an "objective" reality .... then the Roman Catholic Church as the religious denomination with the most adherents is "objectively" proven ... and weird little cults like "messianic Judaism" etc. obviously must be very mislead .... ok simple. :D


Teacher, teacher, teacher, Johnny said I'm a poser! No he is a poser! LOL!
#260548 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Wed Jun 01, 2016 9:15 pm
joseph1122539 wrote:Yod claims he is on the same level with the top players of Indian classical music,
a musical form he obviously know next to nothing about and has no understanding of.



First of all that isn't what I claimed. I said I could imitate what she did in that song you posted.

They were good players, but you're trying say they are more capable on a stringed instrument than Jimmy Page and that's just silly. Mandolin kid was pretty amazing but bending one big string on hugely wide frets with an instrument in open tuning is not a challenge for anyone who can play guitar.

I seriously can't figure out why you think that would be hard to imitate? The lead guitar part in Stairway to Heaven is much more challenging, with twists and turns on several strings at once. Egads!

And again, she isn't really blazing any trails that weren't already there. That's what Page did.




That makes Yod a POSER, regardless of anything else.


No, a poser is someone who has done nothing but acts like they know something.

I've got history going back to the 70s that prove I'm at least a working professional. Still waiting for you to show something, anything.

Sorry if I've hurt your feelings for pointing out that imitating someone is much easier than creating something that wasn't there before.
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#260553 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Wed Jun 01, 2016 10:02 pm
jookeyman wrote:
yod wrote:I seriously can't figure out why you think that would be hard to imitate?


Ted, I think the point is this- it is easy to imitate



yep, that was my point all along



but it is VERY difficult to play authentically.


I agree, but with enough practice imitation can be achieved by a determined person.


If the guy can play then I apologize for assuming he can't...but I got that from him, and only he could prove otherwise.

If this is just Vinny in another advent, then he knows that I respect eastern music. I've said several times that I think it will someday soon be at the forefront of world pop music.

But he used a poor example of virtuosity if he's trying to claim that lady is better than Page. Page could imitate her....she could never imitate Page.
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#260554 by DainNobody
Wed Jun 01, 2016 10:03 pm
jook, this thread went south fast, so I jumped ship.. John Paul would not sign the pact in blood..
#260555 by DainNobody
Wed Jun 01, 2016 10:06 pm
interesting conversation, but how was I to know people would be so set in their beliefs about whether Page is genuine and under-rated.. :?:

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