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This political correctness is a pimple on the ass of rock n roll. I don't do boycotts because, when you look close enough, you see that we are all connected in a myriad of layers no matter whose face is on it.

really, so you're down w playing an event for the KKK? i mean since we're "connected in a myriad of layers"????

and if you learned some artist signed on to a do a whole tour of KKK rallies...you wouldn't boycott that artist?

This political correctness is a pimple on the ass of rock n roll. I don't do boycotts because, when you look close enough, you see that we are all connected in a myriad of layers no matter whose face is on it.

really, so you're down w playing an event for the KKK? i mean since we're "connected in a myriad of layers"????

and if you learned some artist signed on to a do a whole tour of KKK rallies...you wouldn't boycott that artist?

Oh I see what you mean now....


Yes, I boycott the Democrat Party for their ties to the KKK, and their opposition to the Civil Rights movement (before they realized they could con the uneducated into voting blocks)

Guess Joe is ok with that?



There is a difference between endorsing something objectionable and being hired to play for people who do.

I could understand boycotting evil....like abortion...but boycotting an organization that you disagree with is just stupid. Joe can afford it at this stage in his life, but we all know that he's played for a lot of Republicans in his lifetime so this seem rather hypocritical.

It shouldn't surprise me, but it does.


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he's not boycotting the GOP....he's backed out of a concert that he just learned is a republican rally (dressed up as a patronizing and exploitive "Support The Troops" event)

Joe can afford it at this stage in his life, but we all know that he's played for a lot of Republicans in his lifetime so this seem rather hypocritical.

at events? rallies? like who?

or when you say.. " he's played for a lot of Republicans in his lifetime" do you mean there have been republicans in attendance at his shows?!!!


and even if he did play at repub rallies in th epast (and if so..pls name 'em) ...

well....so, what if he did...the GOP of today is not the GOP party of old. is there anyone who's really going to argue that????

he's not boycotting the GOP....he's backed out of a concert that he just learned is a republican rally (dressed up as a patronizing and exploitive "Support The Troops" event)

Joe can afford it at this stage in his life, but we all know that he's played for a lot of Republicans in his lifetime so this seem rather hypocritical.

at events? rallies? like who?

or when you say.. " he's played for a lot of Republicans in his lifetime" do you mean there have been republicans in attendance at his shows?!!!


and even if he did play at repub rallies in th epast (and if so..pls name 'em) ...

well....so, what if he did...the GOP of today is not the GOP party of old. is there anyone who's really going to argue that????

He has been hired by people who are Republican, played for Republicans, and played WITH Republicans. Turning down a GOP event is not really the problem. It's backing out of a "Support the Troops" event no matter who is putting it on. I'll go play for Obama if he would do that...but anyone with half a brain knows that Democrats don't.

And though the GOP of today is not the same as they used to be, it's still much closer than the Democrat Socialist Party of today. I hate them both, but one of them has at least a few honorable Americans remaining.


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which "honorable american" republicans who support our troops are you referring to????

certainly not any of these, i hope!

Here's how congressional REPUBLICANS have "supported our troops" with their votes....

Against Providing Our Troops with Equipment They Need: Voted against providing our troops in harm’s way in Iraq and Afghanistan with everything they need during the remainder of FY 2009, such as $1.9 billion more than requested for Mine Resistant Ambush Protected (MRAP) vehicles to protect our troops.

Against Stop Loss Payment for Troops: Voted against providing special $500 payments for every month that 185,000 service members and veterans were forced to serve under stop-loss orders since September 11, 2001.

Against Support for Our Troops: Republicans voted against restoring our nation’s military readiness by funding the Army’s and Marine Corps’ equipment reset requirements, giving the military a 3.4 percent pay raise, and expanding and strengthening health care services.

Against Extending the New GI Bill for Children of Fallen Soldiers: Republicans voted against extending the New GI Bill college benefits to all children of service members who have died on active duty since 9-11-01.

Against Veterans Job Creation and Economic Help: Republicans voted against providing businesses with a $2,400 tax break for the hiring of an unemployed veteran, a $250 one-time payment to nearly 2 million disabled veterans receiving benefits from the Veterans Affairs Department as part of the make-work-pay tax credit, and $1.2 billion for veterans’ medical facilities repairs throughout the country.

Against Activated Military Reservists: Republicans voted against ensuring that activated military reservists do not suffer a pay cut by providing a tax credit for small businesses employers who continue to pay their National Guard and Reserve employees when they are called up to serve.

Looking back at Congressional Republicans’ record during President Bush’s term in office:

The Bush Administration’s poor planning for the Iraq war failed to provide essential equipment to protect our troops, with these shortages resulting in many unnecessary deaths and injuries. For example, it took more than 18 months after the Iraqi invasion for the Pentagon to provide body armor to all American soldiers. Soldiers and their families were forced to purchase their own body armor.

Republicans voted against a $1,500 bonus for troops serving in Iraq and Afghanistan while voting for a pay raise for themselves. [H.R. 3289, Vote #554, 10/17/03. Rejected 213-213]

The Bush Administration cut off veterans’ health care for veterans who make as little as $26,000 a year in the lead up to the Iraq War, which resulted in more than 1.6 million veterans being denied VA health care over four years.

As the Iraq War began, House Republicans voted to cut $14 billion from veterans’ health care and $14 billion from veterans’ benefits, including veterans’ pensions, compensation, and education. This could have denied health care to 168,000 veterans, or cut the number of VA nurses by 8,700. [H Con. Res 95, 2003 Vote #82, 3/21/03]

Republicans ousted Rep. Chris Smith from his chairmanship of the Veterans Committee because he was too strong a proponent for our veterans. “Veterans groups were incensed this week when word surfaced that Smith might be replaced. The Veterans of Foreign Wars sent a letter to House Speaker Hastert Monday expressing ’intense opposition’ to any efforts to remove the chairman. … Smith challenged GOP leaders and the Bush administration over funding proposals for veterans, and was one of 10 Republicans to oppose the budget resolution last year.” [Congress Daily, 1/6/05]

Republicans voted for the FY 2007 budget that hurts America’s veterans, including cuts in health care totaling $6 billion and as much as tripling TRICARE health care costs for military retirees under 65. [HCR376, 5/18/2006, Vote# 158]



This entry was posted in Correcting the Record, Iraq & Afghanistan, Veterans.

He has been hired by people who are Republican, played for Republicans, and played WITH Republicans. Turning down a GOP event is not really the problem. It's backing out of a "Support the Troops" event no matter who is putting it on.

nice try. but who HASN'T been hired by repubs, played for, or played w 'em?????

he had no problem playing at a "support our troops" rally.... but he does playing at a "support our troops rally" that's nothing more than a thinly veiled REPUBLICAN RALLY!!!

I'll go play for Obama if he would do that...but anyone with half a brain knows that Democrats don't.

i agree with you...anyone w HALF of a brain might "know" that. (if the shoes fits...)

however, folks w a WHOLE brain might have differing opinions.

President Obama and Congress, under Democratic leadership, have taken historic action in support of our troops and veterans such as:

Enacting the new G.I. Bill to provide returning troops with a full, four-year college education

Enacting historic investments in veterans’ health care and services, and ensuring that funding one year in advance to prevent political or legislative delays

Expanding economic opportunities for returning soldiers

Enacting landmark legislation providing support to family members and others who care for wounded veterans, and enhancing health services for the 1.8 million women veterans.

This political correctness is a pimple on the ass of rock n roll. I don't do boycotts because, when you look close enough, you see that we are all connected in a myriad of layers no matter whose face is on it.

So this is stupidity...and now I just think that Joe is stupid.

Oh, so you'd play a fundraiser show for Planned Parenthood, if they asked you?

This political correctness is a pimple on the ass of rock n roll. I don't do boycotts because, when you look close enough, you see that we are all connected in a myriad of layers no matter whose face is on it.

So this is stupidity...and now I just think that Joe is stupid.

Oh, so you'd play a fundraiser show for Planned Parenthood, if they asked you?

Like I said, if it's something EVIL then I could understand a boycott.

Are you telling me that supporting the troops is EVIL?


then, yes, you are truly a Democrat




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I'll go play for Obama if he would do that...but anyone with half a brain knows that Democrats don't.

i agree with you...anyone w HALF of a brain might "know" that. (if the shoes fits...)

however, folks w a WHOLE brain might have differing opinions.

President Obama and Congress, under Democratic leadership, have taken historic action in support of our troops and veterans such as:

Enacting the new G.I. Bill to provide returning troops with a full, four-year college education

Enacting historic investments in veterans’ health care and services, and ensuring that funding one year in advance to prevent political or legislative delays

Expanding economic opportunities for returning soldiers

Enacting landmark legislation providing support to family members and others who care for wounded veterans, and enhancing health services for the 1.8 million women veterans.

LOL....hmmm...looks like I found a topic that interests you enough to do some research, eh?




Only politicians have profited from the things you've listed. Ask a Vet if they have been taken care of in the last 8 years....or go to the VA if you want to know the truth.

Obama did nothing but turn our military into a social experiment for gays and women on the battle line. Those "health care" bills you just referenced were for expanding Planned Parenthood into the military worldwide. It's not about supporting the troops, it's support was for murdering innocent children.

Since O took office, the military has shrunk 23%, there are more welfare recipients now and also the average household income has dropped about $3k a year since Bush. The VA has been under major scrutinity for 5 yrs now and NOTHING has changed!! Under O's administration, most military funding was intended for corrupting VA officials and bribes to Democrat politicians.

Not a single bill here actually would have put money into a vets pocket, it would have put money into corrupt VA leaders pockets via "bonuses", it would have put money into crooked construction companys who have been bleeding the VA dry. They were over a BILLION dollars over budget on the VA hospital in colorado alone.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... /24964551/

which "honorable american" republicans who support our troops are you referring to????

certainly not any of these, i hope!

Here's how congressional REPUBLICANS have "supported our troops" with their votes....

Against Providing Our Troops with Equipment They Need: Voted against providing our troops in harm’s way in Iraq and Afghanistan with everything they need during the remainder of FY 2009, such as $1.9 billion more than requested for Mine Resistant Ambush Protected (MRAP) vehicles to protect our troops.

Against Stop Loss Payment for Troops: Voted against providing special $500 payments for every month that 185,000 service members and veterans were forced to serve under stop-loss orders since September 11, 2001.

Against Support for Our Troops: Republicans voted against restoring our nation’s military readiness by funding the Army’s and Marine Corps’ equipment reset requirements, giving the military a 3.4 percent pay raise, and expanding and strengthening health care services.

Against Extending the New GI Bill for Children of Fallen Soldiers: Republicans voted against extending the New GI Bill college benefits to all children of service members who have died on active duty since 9-11-01.

Against Veterans Job Creation and Economic Help: Republicans voted against providing businesses with a $2,400 tax break for the hiring of an unemployed veteran, a $250 one-time payment to nearly 2 million disabled veterans receiving benefits from the Veterans Affairs Department as part of the make-work-pay tax credit, and $1.2 billion for veterans’ medical facilities repairs throughout the country.

Against Activated Military Reservists: Republicans voted against ensuring that activated military reservists do not suffer a pay cut by providing a tax credit for small businesses employers who continue to pay their National Guard and Reserve employees when they are called up to serve.

Looking back at Congressional Republicans’ record during President Bush’s term in office:

The Bush Administration’s poor planning for the Iraq war failed to provide essential equipment to protect our troops, with these shortages resulting in many unnecessary deaths and injuries. For example, it took more than 18 months after the Iraqi invasion for the Pentagon to provide body armor to all American soldiers. Soldiers and their families were forced to purchase their own body armor.

Republicans voted against a $1,500 bonus for troops serving in Iraq and Afghanistan while voting for a pay raise for themselves. [H.R. 3289, Vote #554, 10/17/03. Rejected 213-213]

The Bush Administration cut off veterans’ health care for veterans who make as little as $26,000 a year in the lead up to the Iraq War, which resulted in more than 1.6 million veterans being denied VA health care over four years.

As the Iraq War began, House Republicans voted to cut $14 billion from veterans’ health care and $14 billion from veterans’ benefits, including veterans’ pensions, compensation, and education. This could have denied health care to 168,000 veterans, or cut the number of VA nurses by 8,700. [H Con. Res 95, 2003 Vote #82, 3/21/03]

Republicans ousted Rep. Chris Smith from his chairmanship of the Veterans Committee because he was too strong a proponent for our veterans. “Veterans groups were incensed this week when word surfaced that Smith might be replaced. The Veterans of Foreign Wars sent a letter to House Speaker Hastert Monday expressing ’intense opposition’ to any efforts to remove the chairman. … Smith challenged GOP leaders and the Bush administration over funding proposals for veterans, and was one of 10 Republicans to oppose the budget resolution last year.” [Congress Daily, 1/6/05]

Republicans voted for the FY 2007 budget that hurts America’s veterans, including cuts in health care totaling $6 billion and as much as tripling TRICARE health care costs for military retirees under 65. [HCR376, 5/18/2006, Vote# 158]



This entry was posted in Correcting the Record, Iraq & Afghanistan, Veterans.

Given the fact that Obama has intentionally lied and changed the records of EVERY thing military, including forbidding the truth of Iraq/Syria/Libya from being reported in America, his administration has absolutely no credibility when it comes to what he "claims". Period.


And again...you keep citing "health care" legislation that isn't actually about supporting troops, it's about supporting the expansion of abortion worldwide. More social engineering that has gutted what used to be the finest military in the world.


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When I said Ted... I wasn't talking about Mr Pearce. Sorry, WHOOOOSHE...

Ted...so, did you check out the links to those two JW song i posted? i think you'll dig 'em!

Ted...so, did you check out the links to those two JW song i posted? i think you'll dig 'em!

I'm sure that I already do.

Y'all forgive me for going off on Joe, I actually do like him but am so frustrated by the idiocy of musicians supporting liberal causes that are destroying America in such absolute ignorance.

I hate the Republican Party but they are at least proudly American. It's a redeeming quality in the land of insanity. Call me naive, but I still think effectual positive change could happen in America through legal channels but that would never be allowed in the Democrat Party.


That's why you will never hear of a Democrat "Support The Troops" event, and why Joe should have known in advance these people were likely Republican, and if I'm not mistaken, this gig is even during the week of the Republican Convention in Cleveland, right?

Which only proves my point. Joe is being ignorant, but he is also being hypocritical if he publicly supports the Democrat Party by doing this.


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This political correctness is a pimple on the ass of rock n roll. I don't do boycotts because, when you look close enough, you see that we are all connected in a myriad of layers no matter whose face is on it.

So this is stupidity...and now I just think that Joe is stupid.

Oh, so you'd play a fundraiser show for Planned Parenthood, if they asked you?

Like I said, if it's something EVIL then I could understand a boycott.

Are you telling me that supporting the troops is EVIL?


then, yes, you are truly a Democrat
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He cancelled from playing a thinly-veiled Republican fundraiser not a show to 'support the troops'.