General Chat (Non-Music-Related)

Vamp - I knew you wouldn't actually read any of the links I posted. The facts are there - judges and others have ruled that those video tapes were staged, edited and faked. David Daleiden is no more an 'investigative reporter' than you or I and he was arrested for his false accusations.

Seriously, Mike.

I've seen them "say" that but I haven't seen it proven, nor attempted even once. His only crime was that he easily convinced them that he was a buyer for what they are selling. They spilled the beans on their own.

Besides the fact that absolutely no one airs a tape they haven't technically edited, there is no difference in what your evening news does every 4 hours, so to even make the charge is an attempt of deception. Why the need to lie if the truth is on your side?

Especially since the unedited versions were made available and the important content of the facts is not changed or affected. It was simply edited for brevity like all of those making the false accusation do thrice daily.

We all know that the real problem is that the content of those video are too damaging for the Left. People who know the truth would simply not support the billions of subsidized $$$ being given to the gristmill for the purpose of slaughtering as many innocents as possible.

To say this is anything else is a naked smokescreen diversion. When the content of ANY segment of the press is stifled for having an opinion contrary to the current ruling class it is called "fascism". That's the point of a FREE PRESS.

A good liberal would be screaming bloody murder over this. It's a threat to everyone.



First they came for the Capitolists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Capitolist.

Then they came for the Conservatives, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Conservative.

Then they came for the Christians, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Christian.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

I've seen them "say" that but I haven't seen it proven, nor attempted even once. His only crime was that he easily convinced them that he was a buyer for what they are selling. They spilled the beans on their own.

Besides the fact that absolutely no one airs a tape they haven't technically edited, there is no difference in what your evening news does every 4 hours, so to even make the charge is an attempt of deception. Why the need to lie if the truth is on your side?

ted - go to the links. read for yourself. if you don't, you're no better than vamp. the guy edited the tapes to add stuff from other sources, making false claims about what he was showing.

I've seen them "say" that but I haven't seen it proven, nor attempted even once. His only crime was that he easily convinced them that he was a buyer for what they are selling. They spilled the beans on their own.

Besides the fact that absolutely no one airs a tape they haven't technically edited, there is no difference in what your evening news does every 4 hours, so to even make the charge is an attempt of deception. Why the need to lie if the truth is on your side?

ted - go to the links. read for yourself. if you don't, you're no better than vamp. the guy edited the tapes to add stuff from other sources, making false claims about what he was showing.

No. He did not. He additionally released the completely unedited versions and the important content was entirely consistent with the final edited version. But we all know that is a diversionary tactic that doesn't change the truth of his reports one iota. PP is selling baby parts. They use "creative" language and tactics but this reporter caught them and it's a major problem for the people making billions on the butchery.

You need go read for yourself. If you don't, you're no better than Josef Goebells, spreading a big lie...


But you're still missing the point that the GOVERNMENT has used Gestapo tactics for silencing a free Press.

When will someone address that issue in this thread?

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Planet Guy … I only "bait" you in good nature. Further i only mentioned the stone throwing incident to demonstrate how thankful I am that this "Dinosaur" can still run down prey. The police came and asked if I wished to press charges but I of course declined … like /i have never thrown stones as a child. They dealt will the incident very effectively i felt … the kids were taken to the police station, parents were notified as was the school and they had to wait until one of their individual parents came to fetch them. they missed the afternoon of school and the parents were not pleased. Later two of the parents came to me and thanked me for not pressing anything and made their son apologise. Now the kids call out to me from the cliff when they pass and say hello even on the street. It was a happy ending I feel.

The Great Game .. I could have considered myself as a Bishop or pervert … I could have considered myself a "King" … to me that would be exceedingly vain. I chose a Knight because i am no Pawn. Knights choose whom they pledge their loyalty and service to and fight for. Which would you choose Planet Guy.

I think of Musicians and artists as Knightly if they are Independent. Dare I say most of us Dinosaurs here are Knights in many ways. Regarding writing … you are in no doubt familiar with the outdated concepts of Grammar … such as "First Person". We must be careful lest we wear our gauges out.

FREE PRESS…BANDMIX…DINOSAURS.
I studied journalism and "mass communications" in college. I got plenty of the Goebbels Propaganda about how America would always be "Free" and have "Free Press", Social Security, The Right to Bear Arms and Worship of Choice. Well we can all see how that has either gone or is well on it's way to reaching Hell.

I love BM because it still has a vestige of "Free Press" and that is admirable for as long as it may last. As Glen often mentions Freedom, this has begun to stick out more and more as our Freedoms vanish and are taken. Losing our "voice" as it were will cripple us and this is precisely what is happening. Excellent Post Yod.
Technical Tyranny is being applied even here and no on BM through the real trolls and censorship.

The uninformed trying to inform ...http://www.infowars.com/video-crazed-co ... upporters/ ... Free Speech no I do not think so, almost a 1984 Hate Session however.

Yod is right. Some "stock shots" were added to the videos presented on TV news, to illustrate what the people were talking about, which is done with virtually every news story you see. How many times have you seen the same picture of a couple of ISIS guys standing on a downed plane with the tail at an unusual angle? Stock shot. Or the guy shooting a stand mounted machine gun...I know I've seen both a hundred times. The same was done with those videos, and I don't see you raising a stink about "heavily edited videos". It's exactly the same thing and is done with literally every news story. If you watch you'll see it time and time again, the same stock shots included in multiple news stories.

One in particular has gotten some attention, a video of an aborted fetus supposedly still moving. (I say it that way because I only saw it once, briefly and couldn't make out much) It wasn't a video of the abortion being discussed, but stock footage to illustrate what was being discussed. That's the same thing that is done every day to every story you see on the news. I see it all the time, I knew it when this story came out and knew exactly what it was. It's not deception, and is not intended to be. It's done to illustrate the content of the story. Sometimes they can use footage of the actual event, like a particular plane or train crash, sometimes they rely on stock footage.

The full unedited videos have also been released, with no stock shots or other editing. And this has been verified by forensic specialists. These people are quite obviously discussing the sale of fetus parts, one of them laughing about making enough to buy a Lamborgini. Considerable editing was necessary, you can't show a 20 minute video in a 3 minute segment on the news. But the forensic experts have determined that the originals are genuine and that no creative editing was used in those shown on the news, just the normal addition of some stock footage and cutting it down to something usable in a short news segment.

Not sure if Mike understands how propaganda works.

First, you tell a big lie and hope that people swallow without investigating. The more preposterous, the better.

"Why no, of course those PP people didn't actually say what your eyes saw and your ears heard!? That was an editing trick!"


Aha....now they can make people say things they didn't actually say???? Uh, no...but we can act like we heard them say something else and cry "editing!!" as if that changes anything except a person's willingness to continue investigating for the truth.

Mike, you are only believing that because you want to. Not because you've found any evidence, or a credible source told you that the most horrible things humans can do are not really happening. I admit that it is easier to believe and a lot more comfortable, even if untrue.


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There is no answer. This is right up there with war. Think about that...

The ultimate form of censorship is murder. Since the liberal atheist crowd does not want anyone to believe that can happen in a civilized society... Oh the truth is well known. IT CAN.

Let's pretend for a moment we live in a society that places no value on human life... I would be death to anyone that disagrees with anyone that has the power of either the law or the fearful many. History is a painful little reminder.

SHOULD I REPEAT THAT?

Where do the rights of life start and end? As an unborn, or young child, as a young man or woman, or an old person living out a few more days?

The fact is someone like birch steps in defending the thoughts, of an underlying theme, that life has no value.

Violence... You want violence? Seek and you will find it. The great many don't want it. Maybe only the few are willing to accept it is a way of life. Maybe only a few are willing to speak out against it....

Strip the Hag, the Black Messiah, the PussBag Soros, any of the Filth and "waterboard them ... they will be crying, begging and pleading in no time at all. Yet this scum order death like it was a take out meal and then Lie about it all whilst laughing. They claim they want violence and that there is no other choice to "protect" the slumbering sheep but if it came to them and spit in their evil eyes the would cry out and show their hypocrisy.

Guitar mike this is for you ...http://www.infowars.com/establishment-n ... rified/.... and this http://www.infowars.com/boston-globe-de ... ge-satire/ ... and yet another one ...http://www.infowars.com/sick-megyn-kell ... t-rioters/ ... and still another ...http://www.infowars.com/rubio-attacks-b ... -for-them/

Yod is correct regarding the point being Free Speech and also let us be honest ... there is also the tiny little issue of being ok with murdering a human who has achieved and is in the vulnerable first stages of life ... I for one am not ok with that regardless of if things which despite being just as relevant were "edited" in or not. Where exactly do you stand on this rampant murdering of life Mike and where do you stand on losing your Free Speech ... that is the heart of all this I feel.
And Glen is justified in what he states about violence. The filth that order it are COWARDS and would never defend Life, Freedom and Humanity ... where are you on this Mike. I certainly hope that even we may find some common ground on these very real and very relevant issues ... regardless or what any jounalistic prostitutes have "proclaimed".

Let's pretend for a moment we live in a society that places no value on human life...

Pretend???

What's the body count in Chicago now? Already higher than last year. Going up in New York. 130 in Paris. 30 in Brussels. 14 in San Bernadino. It wasn't safe to walk the streets in Houston when I lived there 20 years ago. Or San Antonio. Who knows how many MS13 gang members from south of the border who would just as soon slice you up as to look at you. Good evidence ISIS may have been using chemical weapons. No solid proof, if I understand it, but solid suspicion. Random sniper last year. (was that in DC? I can't remember) Pure luck nobody killed when Ferguson and Baltimore rioted. Pigs in a blanket fry em like bacon.

It goes on and on.

No this is not an attack on you, just a literal reading of your comment, we don't have to pretend. We do live in a world that places no value on human life.

Thanks Vamp. Further it is important to understand the articles of our constitution. It was a brilliant document designed to unite areas of our nation into a nation. It is extremely noteworthy that immediately, our founding fathers realized the need to protect the basic rights of every living being. Thus the amendments. Of interest is the reason why the first 2 became the first 2.
For the sheep that have swallowed all the stuff being used to twist these words, a simple interpretation...

No man has the right to silence another man.
Every man has the right to defend their right to speak and live.

The Constitution and the Bill of Rights BELONG to the people. THEREFORE they were written in plain English in simple easy to understand English and NOT filled with double meanings or hidden loopholes to be exploited by dishonest scheming lawyers and politicians. Naturally the lairs and thieves in government do not want the people to realize that fact. They are the documents written for the average citizen, to be easily understood by the people to whom they belong. They were written to protect the peoples government from the tyrants of this day, Those documents are not loophole filled documents written in order that shyster crooked lawyers and corrupt politicians could skew the meaning of the words. In all actuality the scum of the earth are the ones that make these documents complicated in order that they can steal the rights of the people to whom these documents belong. It is as simple as that.

The great lie is that only lawyers and politicians have understanding of their "complexity".

EXACTLY!!!

No man has the right to silence another man.
Every man has the right to defend their right to speak and live.

I have no reason to perpetuate harm against another person... However...

Those two amendments scream... Don't tread on me...