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#257275 by RGMixProject
Thu Mar 24, 2016 1:06 am
J-HALEY wrote:It's to easy to blame those racist, too big for their britches Americans and just let anyone into the US until we wind up like Europe! It boggles my mind how you can blame me a fellow American and not blame a religion that fundamentally believes in convert or die? As I have said in the past you're either a DUMBASS or willing to sell out your own countrymen because you got yours and blindly trust criminals YOU put in power!


Amen
#257276 by RGMixProject
Thu Mar 24, 2016 1:47 am
Dayne Nobody IV wrote:don't want to sound prejudicial, but never have understood why so many Muslims emigrated to Europe in the first place? I am not talking about the latest round of refugees caused by the war in Syria, either.talking about the ones that have been there for many years. the weather is better down south so why are they moving north? anybody have an answer?


True Americans today, think and feel just like the true Americans who kicked out the lousy stinking British Skumbags. The true Americans of today are now a minority. The powerful America of the past is now soft and can be taken advantage of. That is why.
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Thu Mar 24, 2016 2:47 am
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#257283 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Thu Mar 24, 2016 2:48 am
The last night we were in Israel, we were 30 American Christians with 10 Israeli Jews having a fine dinner in an Arab Muslim restaurant.

It can be done.

As someone with my eyes wide open about Islamic terrorism, I must agree with Mark that most muslims are not our enemy. The fear we allow ourselves to have is exactly the fuel ISIS needs to turn every muslim into a perpetrator against us, instead of an ally in the war against the real extremists. Our reactions isolate muslims who are not our enemies into being afraid. They then turn to the only people who understand them, other muslims....who tend to be more extreme "believers".

I think Trump has been stereotyping in the worst way, but I don't see that coming from Cruz. I believe both of them represent the frustrations of millions of Americans who see nothing being done to investigate the millions of people crossing our borders. That will come back to haunt us even more than the economic impact it has already had.

It is only prudent and wise to slow the tide, if not stop it altogether until a reasonable solution is found. The President has had 8 years of a non-policy that many, if not most, Americans disagree with. They are finding a voice in the GOP primaries that is a reaction to that inaction.

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#257285 by RGMixProject
Thu Mar 24, 2016 2:56 am
yod wrote:The last night we were in Israel, we were 30 American Christians with 10 Israeli Jews having a fine dinner in an Arab Muslim restaurant.

It can be done.

As someone with my eyes wide open about Islamic terrorism, I must agree with Mark that most muslims are not our enemy. The fear we allow ourselves to have is exactly the fuel ISIS needs to turn every muslim into a perpetrator against us, instead of an ally in the war against the real extremists. Our reactions isolate muslims who are not our enemies into being afraid. They then turn to the only people who understand them, other muslims....who tend to be more extreme "believers".

I think Trump has been stereotyping in the worst way, but I don't see that coming from Cruz. I believe both of them represent the frustrations of millions of Americans who see nothing being done to investigate the millions of people crossing our borders. That will come back to haunt us even more than the economic impact it has already had.

It is only prudent and wise to slow the tide, if not stop it altogether until a reasonable solution is found. The President has had 8 years of a non-policy that many, if not most, Americans disagree with. They are finding a voice in the GOP primaries that is a reaction to that inaction.

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What's "Islamophophobic" about forcing immigrants to assimilate to U.S. Constitutional laws? Every person born, or moving to this country is forced to live by Constitutional law, or go to prison. What gives these blood thirsty lunatics the right to harass and assault people, for not following Islam? The idiots whining "Islamophobia, Islamophobia, wah,wah;" don't realize that they're putting themselves in danger. Women in European countries, with large muslim populations, are assaulted and harassed for not being covered from head to toe. Muslim men walk around harassing and assaulting anyone who doesn't follow Islamic rules. We already have U.S. muslims throwing temper tantrums in stores, because those stores have pork. Islam is not about assimulating to the cultures of countries they move to, it's about invading and Islomizing the world. Invite Shariah law into this country. Liberals, progressives, women and homosexuals hate Christianity and Judaism, because it states that what they're doing is sin in God's eyes. What liberals,progressives, women, and homosexuals don't realize is that all three of these sins are sins in Islam as well.
#257292 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:49 am
We don't even have a president that will follow US constitutional law. 2 dozen clerics step up to plate and condemn the attacks... How many were killed. Not even one for one.
I went into a SPEEDWAY, (HESS) station yesterday... I was served by a middle eastern assshole that couldn't even return the simplest reply in a civilized fashion. I read people well and this guy was REEKING of HATRED.
Bring it on buddy... Welcome to America!
#257295 by Planetguy
Thu Mar 24, 2016 12:46 pm
Quaint story... but it proves what? That some mid easterners are capable of being rude?

Were he black, Jewish, or Asian would you cite that as being representative and noteworthy?

No... That'd be ignorant and racist.
#257300 by Planetguy
Thu Mar 24, 2016 1:51 pm
yod wrote:The last night we were in Israel, we were 30 American Christians with 10 Israeli Jews having a fine dinner in an Arab Muslim restaurant.

It can be done.

As someone with my eyes wide open about Islamic terrorism, I must agree with Mark that most muslims are not our enemy. The fear we allow ourselves to have is exactly the fuel ISIS needs to turn every muslim into a perpetrator against us, instead of an ally in the war against the real extremists. Our reactions isolate muslims who are not our enemies into being afraid. They then turn to the only people who understand them, other muslims....who tend to be more extreme "believers".


quite so. thanks for that voice of reason, ted.

it's scary to see how quickly and easily some americans can be manipulated and led down the path of across the board blind hatred for an entire race or religion.... how easily their fears and need to strike out at a common enemy can be exploited. short memories. very short memories.

and cruz wants to "secure" muslim neighborhoods!!! what's next, load 'em on trains and send 'em to an interment camp in San Francisco????



RGMixProject wrote: Liberals, progressives, women and homosexuals hate Christianity and Judaism, because it states that what they're doing is sin in God's eyes. What liberals,progressives, women, and homosexuals don't realize is that all three of these sins are sins in Islam as well.


what a bunch of dumbed down horseshit that is.

first off, yes.....myself, and plenty are aware of the beliefs of muslims and their views . wake up for GOD's SAKE already.....you clearly have no clue how many jews ARE liberals!!! do you honestly believe there are no christians who are liberals?

and in spite of the fact that YOU believe otherwise....there are homosexuals who consider themselves every bit as much of a christian as you trumpet yourself to be.

you guys just keep regurgitating that ridiculous BS of this "war on religion" and you run that rallying cry into the ground. it's YOU and your army who's declared it a "war".
#257301 by Planetguy
Thu Mar 24, 2016 2:04 pm
J-HALEY wrote: It boggles my mind how you can blame me a fellow American and not blame a religion that fundamentally believes in convert or die?


you've been brainwashed and are being led down the path by those who recognize in you someone who can be exploited and manipulated. you believe in blaming an ENTIRE group for the actions of a small minority.


i blame you for THAT. because we've seen that same thing happen in Germany w jews being scapegoated. we saw Japanese AMERICANS who lived their entire lives here be rounded up and held prisoner in interment camps.

and i blame the nutjob fundamentalist muslims who are responsible for spreading evil, violence, and murder. i want them strung up by their balls and made to pay...just as much as you do.

but i won't be manipulated into believing that this small percentage of wack jobs represents ALL muslims. why?...because that IS the definition of xenophobia and racism.


As I have said in the past you're either a DUMBASS or willing to sell out your own countrymen because you got yours and blindly trust criminals YOU put in power!


or YOU'RE the "dumbass" who's been manipulated by your own hate, your need to strike out...and the fact that you're unsatisfied that you "have NOT got your's". history shows us that's always an easy group to manipulate.... just ask your boys who study hitler and mussolini.

and who's preying on your need to strike out?...the putzes YOU want to put in power. :shock:
#257303 by Badstrat
Thu Mar 24, 2016 3:34 pm
Liberals don't have brains of their own that can reason. Therefore they listen to the propaganda mill Pravda and believe everything they say. Islam is a religion of hate not peace. If that were not so Muslims would not be shouting allahu akbar. (Literally "God is great" in Arabic) when they do their killing. If it were for some reason other than that wouldn't they be yelling "death to the great Satan" or something similar? .This is a religious war, not a war over anything else. ISIS members are trute followers of Islam, and they obey the many passages that command that they kill the infidel, of which there are many in the Quran.

The peaceful Muslims are like the Christians that cheat on their taxes, commit adultery, fornicate, covet what God has given their brother and whatever then go to church on Sunday like good Christians. In other words, they are Muslims in name only obeying and picking and choosing for themselves which passages of the Quran they wish to obey. Islam is not a peaceful religion. Their religious leaders are always commanding kill the great Satan, or death to America. So if the religious leaders of Islam wish to begin a world war to bring the Imam back, as it is written, then it is not a religion of peace.

The problem is that the great American Unic (You know, the one who stands next to the banana republic dictator of Cuba with a stupid grin on his face as the communist leader insults him to his face) will not call this a war with Islam. He won't even admit that these are Islamic terrorists when the terrorists themselves state that they are followers of Islam doing allahus will..Instead the great unic defends them at every opportunity calling Islamic violence "workplace violence" or he pretends that he suspects "right wing terrorists" every time an Islamic attack occurs. And the morons gobble up every word.

The Great American Unic and his Pravda propaganda machine dictate the thoughts of liberals and they never understand the truth. These people are waging a religious war against all infidels not a war for something someone has done to them. They war for allahu and no other reason. But the stupids listen to the great Unic and his Pravda instead of reason.
#257342 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Thu Mar 24, 2016 4:50 pm
The problem is not "muslims" though the people who are the problem are overwhelmingly muslim. Somehow we need to isolate the extremists from the peaceful ones. If an American President, any American President ever uttered the words, "War on Islam" we would lose that war in a matter of weeks, if not days. We're talking about 1/4 of the world's population and they would be motivated, unified, and fueled by an existential fear of us....caused by us giving in to our own fear. The percentage of muslims who are a problem is small, but the sheer numbers of muslims in the world make that a large number of extremists. In the past it wasn't a problem but in today's world it only takes a few motivated people to wreak a lot of havoc in a society.

Do you remember who launched the first real air attacks against ISIS? It was the Jordanian (muslim) King Abdullah. We absolutely do have (muslim) allies in the war on ISIS, and even against Iran. However, in the middle east you don't raise your head higher than the trenches, or you'll lose it. It's easy to "stand up" to extremists from the western hemisphere, but quite a bit more complicated if you're living in the middle of it.

An extremist mullah knows how to manipulate the fear of muslims who feel isolated in western society, just like an unscrupulous politician or preacher knows how to manipulate the fear of a westerner who feels threatened by people they don't understand.

There is a lot more fear and insecurity coming from the Islamic world than the west (for now), but it's the same ignorance driving it.

GW Bush was right when he said this will be a very long war, maybe a few generations. We create more enemies and prolong the fight when we give in to fear, and we only win this war by showing that our convictions are based on what is good and right for every person. We have been stereotyped in the arabic world by what they've seen from Hollywood and it will take time to prove that we aren't as sick a society as we are portrayed in the movies.
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#257343 by RGMixProject
Thu Mar 24, 2016 4:58 pm
Comparing my Islam criticism to Nazi propaganda is ‘beyond stupid’
It is politically correct to describe people, who feel a certain degree of apprehension in regards to the Islamic faith, as being ignorant. Some people, "planetlie" who indeed are ignorant of the true nature of Islam, simply go along with this.
Here is another thing some of you pea brains still don't understand. Islam is not a religion, it’s not. It’s a totalitarian way of life with a religious component. It’s a geo-political system that has governmental, financial, military, legal and religious components.

And really Planetlie..... Wake the f.uck up or move to another country, like Iran and wear a sign around your neck "I'm am not a Muslim"
1. Muslims consider all non-Muslims as "infidels" worthy of death.

Let me say that again because some of you are to dumb to figure it out.

Muslims consider all non-Muslims as "infidels" worthy of death.



2. Muslims will build a mosque and will teach their Qur'an to the Muslim children and any new converts. Will these converts be radicalized? If you read the Qur'an you will discover there is no such thing as a non-radicalized Muslim. They will be taught to hate Jews, Christians and everyone who is not a Muslim and they will be encouraged to enslave, tax and kill them. Now you know why Muslim children are not permitted to be friends with your children.
#257344 by Planetguy
Thu Mar 24, 2016 6:44 pm
ok RGMIXEDUP, since you like tossing the word "lie" around....let's play "call the liar out game"


YOU lied about no muslims speaking out against fundamentalist attacks.

and i called you out on that lie w posted evidence. but that's a convenient nontruth that you choose to believe and propagate to justify your racism... and so you choose to be blissfully ignorant, as you are about even the simplest things...like misidentifying a "G" chord (or dimwit you are, what you refer to as...a "G cord")

i backed this up w evidence of protests in at least two states and an article about a movement of muslims who condemn attacks and violence perpetrated in the name of islam by fundamentalist wackjobs. ("This Is Not Islam: NotInMyName")

proving what? that you lied and/or that you're ignorant of the facts. (as usual)


Ok...now it's your turn Uncle Fester, what did i lie about? Do tell.
#257346 by Planetguy
Thu Mar 24, 2016 7:24 pm
yod wrote:The problem is not "muslims" though the people who are the problem are overwhelmingly muslim. Somehow we need to isolate the extremists from the peaceful ones. If an American President, any American President ever uttered the words, "War on Islam" we would lose that war in a matter of weeks, if not days. We're talking about 1/4 of the world's population and they would be motivated, unified, and fueled by an existential fear of us....caused by us giving in to our own fear. The percentage of muslims who are a problem is small, but the sheer numbers of muslims in the world make that a large number of extremists. In the past it wasn't a problem but in today's world it only takes a few motivated people to wreak a lot of havoc in a society.

Do you remember who launched the first real air attacks against ISIS? It was the Jordanian (muslim) King Abdullah. We absolutely do have (muslim) allies in the war on ISIS, and even against Iran. However, in the middle east you don't raise your head higher than the trenches, or you'll lose it. It's easy to "stand up" to extremists from the western hemisphere, but quite a bit more complicated if you're living in the middle of it.

An extremist mullah knows how to manipulate the fear of muslims who feel isolated in western society, just like an unscrupulous politician or preacher knows how to manipulate the fear of a westerner who feels threatened by people they don't understand.

There is a lot more fear and insecurity coming from the Islamic world than the west (for now), but it's the same ignorance driving it.

GW Bush was right when he said this will be a very long war, maybe a few generations. We create more enemies and prolong the fight when we give in to fear, and we only win this war by showing that our convictions are based on what is good and right for every person. We have been stereotyped in the arabic world by what they've seen from Hollywood and it will take time to prove that we aren't as sick a society as we are portrayed in the movies.


I'm Planetguy and i approve this post!

well said, ted. there's not one thing i disagree with nor find fault with. but the haters gotta hate. and those who need scapegoats will have their scapegoats. those who make across the board generalizations about a race of people or try to put every follower of any religion into one neat little bag and tie a bow around it...there's no talking to them. they loves having them a target to hurl their bag of hatred at (just like the jihadists).

these same christians, who unlike the characters in THEIR holy book....lookie, they DON'T have slaves....and don't have sex w 13 yr olds. hmmmm, i guess they're not following the bible to the letter but instead are interpretting it and keeping it relevant to current day times.

so why is it so hard to understand that it's possible to follow the koran and islamic faith while making similar adjustments.

the idea that what.... the 1.6 BILLION muslims ALL want non followers dead???? sorry, you guys that believe that $hit have been brainwashed and are poisoned by your own dark hearts and souls to believe such silliness.

you need to get out in the real world and your heads out of your butts.

thanks again for that excellent post, ted. (even if you are preaching to the choir and those w deaf ears) :D
#257347 by RGMixProject
Thu Mar 24, 2016 7:41 pm
Planetguy wrote:ok RGMIXEDUP, since you like tossing the word "lie" around....let's play "call the liar out game"


YOU lied about no muslims speaking out against fundamentalist attacks.

So if these Muslim terror attacks are an insult to Islam, where are the protests? Where are the marches? Where are the signs saying "not in our name"?
Are you really that stupid you don't know what question mark is?

Planetguy wrote:and i called you out on that lie w posted evidence. but that's a convenient nontruth that you choose to believe and propagate to justify your racism... and so you choose to be blissfully ignorant, as you are about even the simplest things...like misidentifying a "G" chord (or dimwit you are, what you refer to as...a "G cord")

again your so stupid......G cord, the string you pulled out of your ass along with your brains.

Planetguy wrote:i backed this up w evidence of protests in at least two states and an article about a movement of muslims who condemn attacks and violence perpetrated in the name of islam by fundamentalist wackjobs. ("This Is Not Islam: NotInMyName")

proving what? that you lied and/or that you're ignorant of the facts. (as usual)


Ok...now it's your turn Uncle Fester, what did i lie about? Do tell.

Again your so stupid you don't know the difference between a question and a statement.

You are nothing but a wino drunk and a ugly face liar because you always twist other people's words around to try and make them look like they lied when in fact that is not the case. Bozoo!

Your support of the Islamic political System has been noted. Have you picked another country yet to live in?

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