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#256791 by Vampier
Wed Mar 16, 2016 5:45 pm
The last time I heard ... "Calls for" has a different meaning than "Predict". If not then the Weathermen are constantly "calling" for all sorts of weather ... should they be known as Weather Wizards. I think not. It is not a good idea to attempt to put words in the mouths of those you do not like. I would have thought you knew that.
#256794 by Planetguy
Wed Mar 16, 2016 8:03 pm
and i would have thought that anyone capable of extrapolating even the most simple and obvious would be able see that it's by no means a stretch.... that if Trump is so quick to encourage violence towards his critics with his rhetoric about "carrying them out on stretchers" ...not to mention paying the legal fees for any of the ruffians arrested ....

you actually believe his "predictions" of riots aren't thinly veiled threats and him encouraging the hooligans?????

or do you honestly believe he's concerned about people's safety? :lol:

let me guess...it's all just too far fetched a conspiracy theory for you to buy into! :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCZEAcSsx7w&ebc=ANyPxKr9YT7ukExDNT3GG49mD24QYq8JVUpIR0fdcTGJbQuDwqyUbbrgHjzLDpC2fVLqCJg2osP0ZWKaAlMw_YsM_sFNizD3KQ
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#256796 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Wed Mar 16, 2016 8:18 pm
But there is a difference Mark.

He isn't going out to look for trouble. It's the Democrats, backed by Soros and MoveOn that are pushing for, and provoking a fight, for the intent and purpose of starting race riots.

I can't believe that anyone would support that with a vote for the Democrats. Now, I don't think Trump is Presidential material, but I do think that anyone who starts pushing his people at his rallies is purposely asking for it, and deserves whatever they get.

And I think it would be stupid for Trump to fall into that trap, but he is an impulsive person that attracts impulsive people....and surely will.



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#256798 by Planetguy
Wed Mar 16, 2016 8:26 pm
are you kidding me???? in any one of those situations, he could have taken the high road and tried to diffuse the situation.

instead he not only fans the flames...he pours gasoline on them. he milks those scenes for all they're worth.

ted, pls give your fallback "oh, but the dems are so much worse" a rest and stay on point. this guy is dangerous as he clearly has no problem inciting and encouraging violence.

look at his rally in St. Louis....he easily could have diffused things but instead, he basks in it, milking it for everything he can. as trump would say...." THAT'S DISGUSTING!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCZEAcSsx7w&ebc=ANyPxKr9YT7ukExDNT3GG49mD24QYq8JVUpIR0fdcTGJbQuDwqyUbbrgHjzLDpC2fVLqCJg2osP0ZWKaAlMw_YsM_sFNizD3KQ
#256809 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Wed Mar 16, 2016 10:45 pm
Thanks for posting that planet guy. It proves how many people like Jeffrey Gutterman are out fighting for total stupidity. In my opinion I hope gutter guy goes out and gets a productive job, that actually supports America. Ground floor entry level jobs still available at McDonalds.

Way too funny... Thanks for posting that.
#256814 by Planetguy
Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:52 pm
angelsshotgun wrote:Thanks for posting that planet guy. It proves how many people like Jeffrey Gutterman are out fighting for total stupidity. In my opinion I hope gutter guy goes out and gets a productive job, that actually supports America. Ground floor entry level jobs still available at McDonalds.

Way too funny... Thanks for posting that.


not familiar w gutterman other than that he's a therapist who specializes in and has written a book or two about about conflict resolution.

what's your beef w him?
#256844 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:05 am
I don't care if he wrote a million books. If he says something stupid in an attempt to manipulate his personal form of media, it still comes through as manipulation.
The sad part is how many sheep will believe his words as fact.

That's my beef with gutterman. You got a problem with that? :lol:
#256854 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Thu Mar 17, 2016 2:04 pm
Planetguy wrote:are you kidding me???? in any one of those situations, he could have taken the high road and tried to diffuse the situation.]



Wait a minute....


Are you talking about Obama with Sanford, Ferguson, or Baltimore?


Gimme a break, and try to be intellectually honest for just a nanosecond? The DEMOCRATS are completely behind all of it, from ACORN/occupy/BLM If you had those racist idiots showing at your picnic, you'd push back too.

They are the bullies who want to start a fight. Trump is simply the vehicle for those who want to fight them.


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#256857 by Badstrat
Thu Mar 17, 2016 2:53 pm
Why can't we just get along .. { R King)

Why are conservative groups always protesting, causing disruptions, and trying to cause civil unrest like bratty spoiled little children when they don't got their way?
Why can't conservatives be peaceful like liberals, and just let the American voter make choices without trying to cause civil unrest? Go figure.

Anti-Trump activists plot 'protests of century'

http://www.wnd.com/2016/03/anti-trump-a ... f-century/

A group linked to recent anti-Trump protests in Chicago, Illinois, is planning the "largest civil disobedience action of the century." (Photo: Facebook, Democracy Spring)

Thousands of emboldened left-wing activists linked to anti-Trump protests plan to converge on the U.S. Capitol next month.
Some of the organizations that have endorsed Democracy Spring and what it bills as the largest civil disobedience action of the century include:

* American Federation of Labor and Congress of Industrial Organizations (AFL-CIO)(peaceful Conservative group)
* Code Pink (peaceful Conservative group)
* Democratic Socialists of America (peaceful Conservative group)
* National Organization for Women (NOW) (peaceful Conservative group)
* Soros-funded groups: MoveOn.org, (peaceful Conservative group) the Institute for Policy Studies (peaceful Conservative group), and Demos (peaceful Conservative group)
* Black Lives Matter (peaceful Conservative group)
* Occupy Wall Street (peaceful Conservative group)
* Anonymous (peaceful Conservative group)

Why can't these peaceful conservative groups just let the people vote for their choice? Isn't that what elections are about? Why don't they simply take the peaceful road as obama advacated during his campaign?

Obama: 'If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun ...
blogs.wsj.com/.../obama-if-they-bring-a-knife-to-the-fight-we-bring-a-gun/ - Similar
14 Jun 2008 ... Mobster wisdom tells us never to bring a knife to a gun fight.
But what does political wisdom say about bringing a gun to a knife fight?
That’s exactly what Barack Obama said he would do to counter Republican attacks If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun, Obama ...
#256867 by Vampier
Thu Mar 17, 2016 5:12 pm
Planet Guy … I am motivated to write this, not as an attack upon you personally nor to rekindle any little feud between us. You are fully entitled to your opinion and at least for now can still express it. I have no problem accepting that whatever you state is yours. I agree more with Yod and what he has related but so what. I truly feel at this point in time that what any of us may think has little significance to anyone else anyway… certainly not to the rest of the world. I only wish you well as I have stated many times.

The Grand Chess game has changed considerably now it seems and become very, very multidimensional. I firmly believe that we are in the very Last Grand Game and as such our lives whatever they be are unique to our many Ancestors. We should look at all this and recognise that it is deadly serious now and for the "Highest" stakes ever and as the Last Game it's results will be permanent.

Let me state that I believe that the True High Road is precarious and steep and very treacherous. Most who claim they have taken it, have in fact not. Most who do take it fall or are pushed … into the Abyss. No one who has never taken the High Road has any right or validity to speak of it or make judgements regarding it. There is a well known Scot Tune which speaks of it and there are many interpretations to this. My own Grandfather from Glasgow told me as a child that when I sang it, it was important to know what I was singing about. He told me what I have just related and in addition spoke of how most think the High
Road to be "fast" and even glorious but in fact it is slow, arduous and here in this world … inglorious. It's destination is Death and if you are able to remain on it until the end, then you may reach what some call Heaven, Valhalla and Paradise… not Scotland.

He had another definition for Scotland … a hard place, damp, cold, misty and windy with very brief moments of bliss to remind you that you were still alive and not in Hell and that you should understand that to be able to endure life in Scotland is to become a man who may be capable of attempting to take the High Road. He would always kiss me when we met and then pinch me to demonstrate how pleasant was the kiss as he would say.

One might say the best example of "taking the High Road" is bearing your own cross and others up to a mountain top and being crucified because of your belief and goodness. I think it clear that murder, rape, torture, lying, greed and a host of other perversions the laughingly called "elites" all share with the political filth that licks them … does not in any way shape or form qualify as taking the High Road. Any with pampered and powdered butts who have left their diapers and have spent much time setting their brains aside with their morality and stroking their small egos and other "things", know not of what they speak and can not judge such.

Political Filth regardless of what colour or creed remains always that foul smelling stench and the dripping excretement of Evil. Any who have not seen this by now have lost their way. "Presidential Material" or "acting P:residential" or "looking Presidential" has come to mean resembling fecal waste … and pouring gasoline upon it could be a good idea.

"Intellectual Honesty" on the other hand is a most excellent term … in my opinion. My question is … honestly … am I the only poor sod who can see that all this dire manipulation, desperate emergence from under rocks and behind curtains … is pure diversion and distraction. That there will be no "Election" and that the Black Messiah as instructed , has intended this from a long time past. The USA INC. is going to become the new "poster child" for the UN and the NWO, much like Afrika has been for so long. The exterminations and experimentations will continue along with the vaccinations and starvations. Fema will see to it all until it's turn arrives. The WHORE that America has become is being replaced by a new more terrible HORROR.
#256874 by Planetguy
Thu Mar 17, 2016 6:08 pm
"intellectual honesty"????

that's pretty funny.

and we're how many posts into a thread about a presidential candidate condoning and encouraging violence at his rallies and his "predictions" of riots....and none of you are "honest" enough (intellectually or otherwise) to actually address that!

instead....

vampier is off and running about how it's all gone to sh#t. (ignoring trump's handling of dissenters at his rallies)

yod and slacker employ their usual strategy of sidestepping......uh oh, a conservative has done something questionable...QUICK POINT OUT THAT THE LIBS ARE EVEN WORSE!!!! AND NEVER, NEVER ACKNOWLEDGE SAID CONSERVATIVE DID ANYTHING WRONG! (ignoring trump's handling of dissenters at his rallies)

and angelshotgun is off in another dimension going on about about "entry level jobs at McDonalds" and his dislike of Jeffrey Gutterman !!! (ignoring trump's handling of dissenters at his rallies)

tell ya what.....you guys get back to me when you want to "honestly" discuss the violence at Trump's rallies and what responsibility he bears for that. :roll:

in the meantime, here's how you handle a heckler w/o encouraging and condoning violence. notice no one in the crowd showed any inclination of punching, shoving, or hurting the heckler.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNgYHP-ywlg
#256878 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Thu Mar 17, 2016 8:41 pm
Planetguy wrote:"intellectual honesty"????

that's pretty funny.



So you're saying that you aren't capable of being intellectually honest about where the blame belongs in the riots we will be seeing all summer? Even though they aren't trying to hide the fact that Soros groups will be funding it?



yod and slacker employ their usual strategy of sidestepping......uh oh, a conservative has done something questionable...QUICK POINT OUT THAT THE LIBS ARE EVEN WORSE!!!! AND NEVER, NEVER ACKNOWLEDGE SAID CONSERVATIVE DID ANYTHING WRONG! (ignoring trump's handling of dissenters at his rallies)



Talk about sidestepping?

I can't speak for Slacker but I've been pretty clear about my objections to the tactics of Trump and the Trumpies. I haven't given him a pass for anything, and in fact, have warned Trumpies of how he is falling right into the trap being set for him, which is giving the real criminals (The Soros paramilitary: ACORN/OCCUPY/BLM) a cover to whitewash and justify of their thuggery.

Waiting for all decent people to do that....

I don't justify Trump in the least, and never will. But I'm saying he is predictably going to play the tough guy and the leftists will use him as a convenient target for their race-baiting. They have finally figured out how to start a race war because Trumpies will push back.

But make no mistake about it! This isn't Trump starting a war, it's Trumpies looking for revenge in the war the Democrats started about 8 years ago.

Trumpies are just the first to rise up and defend against it. As I've been saying for many many years now...if the left doesn't reign in it's extremism, they are going to cause an equal and opposite reaction.

Trump is NOT a conservative. He does NOT represent the views of the grassroots in the GOP either. But he is someone who knows how to tap into those who want revenge for the last 8 years. And that is exactly the trap being laid for him now.

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#256880 by Planetguy
Thu Mar 17, 2016 8:48 pm
and still NOTHING about the violence that trump foments at his rallies!

i'll say one thing, ted...you sure are consistent. "it's because of the libs". "it's because of the libs". "it's because of the libs". :D
#256883 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Thu Mar 17, 2016 9:14 pm
Planetguy wrote:and still NOTHING about the violence that trump foments at his rallies!

i'll say one thing, ted...you sure are consistent. "it's because of the libs". "it's because of the libs". "it's because of the libs". :D



That's because it's true.


If you still see NOTHING about the violence that Trump "foments at his rallies" then you are only choosing not to look. I've been clear about that more than anyone here, including you.

He's a bully. Just like your guys. It is YOU who can't admit it.

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