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Good points, and I've thought about all that. I can't explain it, but for some reason I've always had the feeling Trump means what he says. He loves this country and wants to make it better. I'm aware of his liberal past, I've paid no attention at all to the recent comparisons with Hitler, while it may seem accurate on the surface, I don't think that's his agenda. Trump has morals, Hitler didn't. I just think he says what he means and means to do exactly what he says.

I also realize he won't get every single thing he wants, he has to go through Congress, and will face a lot of opposition. If he does get elected, there's a good possibility Congress will actually start doing their job, and reign him in. Or at least try to. then again, they haven't done it with Obama...

As for Cruz, like I said earlier, he has to listen to those big donors who are shelling out millions to help him get elected, same as every politician in the past 100 years. I don't trust that. I like Cruz, always have, and he has kept his promises. Something just nags me about it. As a senator maybe he got away with it. Running for President, I'm betting he is under a lot more pressure to listen to the donors. Same problem I have with every politician that gets his or her money that way. We know where that got us up till now. Trump can flip them off and do what he knows needs to be done. I know we're taking a big chance, but it's a chance we have to take. Anyone who is taking money from the typical political donors is suspect, even Cruz.

Good points, and I've thought about all that. I can't explain it, but for some reason I've always had the feeling Trump means what he says. He loves this country and wants to make it better. I'm aware of his liberal past, I've paid no attention at all to the recent comparisons with Hitler, while it may seem accurate on the surface, I don't think that's his agenda. Trump has morals, Hitler didn't. I just think he says what he means and means to do exactly what he says.

I also realize he won't get every single thing he wants, he has to go through Congress, and will face a lot of opposition. If he does get elected, there's a good possibility Congress will actually start doing their job, and reign him in. Or at least try to. then again, they haven't done it with Obama...

As for Cruz, like I said earlier, he has to listen to those big donors who are shelling out millions to help him get elected, same as every politician in the past 100 years. I don't trust that. I like Cruz, always have, and he has kept his promises. Something just nags me about it. As a senator maybe he got away with it. Running for President, I'm betting he is under a lot more pressure to listen to the donors. Same problem I have with every politician that gets his or her money that way. We know where that got us up till now. Trump can flip them off and do what he knows needs to be done. I know we're taking a big chance, but it's a chance we have to take. Anyone who is taking money from the typical political donors is suspect, even Cruz.

So you think it's better to have an unaccountable authoritarian with a horribly liberal track record and a penchant for ridicule; than someone who has a track record of defending the Constitution and strict adherence to keeping his word?

I really don't get it. I'm not angry at you at, brother, but I think you're seeing what you want to see, and not what you're looking at. It's a revenge vote and you want believe there is a bully on "your" side.

I just don't see that.


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Gentleman thank you for some intelligent discussion.
Mike I wouldn't censor you and your opinion. I just have to point out that your comparison is a bit off. I sincerely doubt that Trump would set out to exterminate 6 million people because of their religious beliefs.

Ted, I beg forgiveness. I am very guilty of tweaking people. Some times I will push the ridiculous way beyond those borders of all reasonable discussion. Sorry if I make you roll your eyes sometimes and this includes many I do have respect for. There are some very intelligent folks that express their opinions... They should be allowed to do so without being personally insulted at every turn.

Billy, You are very articulate and I appreciate your comments, very much.

I guess we will see as this all plays out. Thanks guys.

Just an aside Ted... I am probably more of a strict constitutionalist than Senator Cruz. In the real world it was written to be flexible as society "moves" forward. But not so flexible that it can be tossed aside as an outdated document.
I recommend everyone get a basic copy and study the brilliance of the men that argued and fought over every word in it.
A simple place to start would be a book by MICHAEL HOLLER, The Constitution made Easy. Then delve into the FEDERALIST PAPERS and start to learn how much thought went into a form of government that was meant to protect the fundamental values of FREEDOM. Mistakes were made... But even major ones like slavery were eventually accounted for and corrected.

Just saying Ted. I do like Cruz. I also like people that have enough love in their hearts to stick their necks out,(Carson).

It's gonna be a wild ride!

Ted, I beg forgiveness. I am very guilty of tweaking people. Some times I will push the ridiculous way beyond those borders of all reasonable discussion. Sorry if I make you roll your eyes sometimes and this includes many I do have respect for..

You've never offended me personally even once....so there's no reason to apologize. I did worry about your blood pressure sometimes

I know you to be a thoughtful caring person so I have wondered why you'd appear like an angry old man in the forums. I do like this side of you better, but we're friends forever no matter what


It feels weird to support any politician in the slightest. It's a dirty game and you get dirty playing it.

Still, I'm amazed that people are so easily manipulated by politicians. I try to investigate their personal character more than their words....and there were at least 10 people with better character in the primaries than Trump. But he's got the money and the fame, which attracts people who value that and makes them overlook things they don't want to see apparently.

Which is what makes him a good politician. It's a dirty game.

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Cruz team hired Neal Bush today. I didn't see that coming. I'm not super impressed by Cruz but I didn't think he'd hang out with the Bush Crime Family.

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Cruz team hired Neal Bush today. I didn't see that coming.

I just found a comment about that not long ago, didn't know if it was true or not, if so it confirms my suspicion might have been accurate. If he's buddying up with a Bush, that's not good news. I didn't see it coming either.

Ted - It's not about personality, or even policy as much as I don;t like that idea, It's about having someone in there who is willing to stick his neck out for US, the people, and not owned by the usual political donors. It may be a big risk, but I think it's a risk worth taking. we absolutely have to do something different, the business as usual crowd we've had for 50 years is definitely not working. If you want that, you can elect Hillary, Jeb, Kasich, Rubio, possibly even Cruz and get essentially the same results. Now it looks like Cruz is joining the Bush clan, I don't like that at all. The desperate attacks on Trump lately really revived my suspicions, now this? I smell establishment influence.

Cruz team hired Neal Bush today. I didn't see that coming.

I just found a comment about that not long ago, didn't know if it was true or not, if so it confirms my suspicion might have been accurate. If he's buddying up with a Bush, that's not good news. I didn't see it coming either.

Ted - It's not about personality, or even policy as much as I don;t like that idea, It's about having someone in there who is willing to stick his neck out for US, the people, and not owned by the usual political donors. It may be a big risk, but I think it's a risk worth taking. we absolutely have to do something different, the business as usual crowd we've had for 50 years is definitely not working. If you want that, you can elect Hillary, Jeb, Kasich, Rubio, possibly even Cruz and get essentially the same results. Now it looks like Cruz is joining the Bush clan, I don't like that at all. The desperate attacks on Trump lately really revived my suspicions, now this? I smell establishment influence.

If you remember, Cruz got his start working for W and left them. This appears to be the establishment doing anything they can to oppose Trump, even if it means supporting Cruz. I don't blame Cruz for taking the money because he will need it to beat Trump. The only problem would be how it gets paid back.

Professor George Bush (1796 - 1859) would be rolling over in his grave to see what his posterity has come to.

I expect those living in darkness to bow to Pharaoh, but I've come to the conclusion that, if Christians are choosing Trump, then the USA is done and it's only a short matter of time before we find out. God is about to judge us beyond what any of us could have imagined. If there is an election, it won't matter. The dollar will fall before summer is over (maybe before summer) and we will be under totalitarian rule very soon.

Because we chose it to be so....

May God have mercy on all of you.





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Why do you say the dollar is going to fall? I'm just curious about your perspective. The American economy is so twisted, as is the world market... Just asking. The professional money changers are full of more ---- than the professional politicians.

I don't know if I'd put it exactly that way, but I've been seeing a lot of talk about the economy going into another serious depression, and usually 2016 is when they say it should hit.

I don't see how it's kept going this long actually, every time Obama has to pay our bills he just prints more money out of thin air, the dollar is probably not worth the paper it's printed on already. Gas has gone down quite a bit, but nothing else, it's all still going up. I just paid more for butter, cheese and cream than a month ago. their delivery price has gone way down, but they didn't pass that savings on to their customers. Taxes have gone up, salaries down, regulations killing businesses, Clinton's really bad moves of eliminating the bill that kept commercial and invetor banks separate and the NAFTA trade bill have both done incredible damage.

Due to banks now being able to dabble in both areas, banking is now back in the status it was just before the depression of 1929, that's why the act was passed. (Glass/Stiegal was it? Can't remember the name.) NAFTA is why millions of manufacturing jobs went bye bye. corporations that once ordered parts from the machine shops I worked for now order them from China, I couldn't find a machinist job 15 years ago. I was sick of it anyway...but the entire business was dead.

Same for a lot of other businesses. Ford is building a $2 Billion plant in Mexico, Carrier just announced plans to move to Mexico, everything you find in stores is Chinese made crap, and it still costs more than the earlier and much better quality American version...

We have more people on welfare than ever before, 46 million on food stamps, 95 million dropped out of the job market entirely, Obomacare strangling individuals and businesses...

And have you taken a look at what the stock market has done the past few months? Record highs on top of record highs last summer and fall, I haven't checked recently, but it's been crazy. China has devalued their currency 2 or 3 times to try and prevent a major stock market crash, the economy of Greece went belly up for the 3rd time not long ago, vilence and tension as a result of the "refugee" movement is bound to have a negative affect on the European economy as a whole, and like it or not ours is joined at the hip to all of that. At some point it has to take a tumble.

When that happens, it's going to be bad. Out here in the boonies I might live a month or two. I don't think millions in large cities will make it 2 weeks. Why? When it happens, I expect it will either be caused by a major power outage, or result in one. No power, no water, no communications, no radio or TV, no newspapers, no food, no place to buy any, no gas to go someplace else, no working gas pumps to get any, probably martial law in place to stop any attempt at travel.

So how many squirrels and rabbits do you folks have in them there cities? Deer? Any fishin' holes? Have a garden? Didn't think so. That sucks...

Billy, you are one of those people... I would love to sit down with and have a beer and a smoke.

Perhaps this might illustrate precisely why many people will indeed vote for Donald Trump ...
http://www.infowars.com/is-this-the-mos ... ideo-ever/
... if one wishes to make ridiculous comparisons to Hitler, then I would suggest going directly to the SOURCE and the TRUTH of such a comparison ...check out the History of the "Bush Family" and their obvious and well documented role in Hitler Atrocity ... now one of these Filth are attached to The Pretender Cruz. If one closes their eyes and thinks critically avoiding the Distraction and focusing upon discernment, then better conclusions might be achieved, less embarrassing ones in retrospect. Just pointing out some facts to dispel a bit of conditioned "thinking" and distractions.

Politics are simply a facade presented by the greedy rich and the power crazed. The rest of us are simply the pawns used to finance their perversions. The goal for some of us is simply to live our lives in peace, the goal for others is only to rule over our lives and force us to live them as they see fit .
We live during the times of an escalation in spiritual warfare, we are all simply prizes to be won by either side. For the spiritually aware It is as simple as that, isn't it? So what's the fuss?

Politics are simply a facade presented by the greedy rich and the power crazed. The rest of us are simply the pawns used to finance their perversions. The goal for some of us is simply to live our lives in peace, the goal for others is only to rule over our lives and force us to live them as they see fit .
We live during the times of an escalation in spiritual warfare, we are all simply prizes to be won by either side. For the spiritually aware It is as simple as that, isn't it? So what's the fuss?

Wise words from a wise man, good to here from you Slacker!

Double bump... Is there such a thing?