yod wrote:John was the artistic brains with the edgy voice, while Paul was the popular face and most talented singer. John's songs almost always had a sad introspective quality to them, while Paul's contributions were more "happy" verses/music. (exception of Yesterday). It was that combination that made their compilations appealing to the masses...
i gotta disagree w all that. paul wrote tons of 'edgy' and sad songs. "E Rigby", "She's Leaving Home" (how "articstic" is THAT song using the concept of telling the story from both the daughter AND the Mom's side?!!), "Fool On the Hill", "For No One", "Long and Winding Road", "And I Love Her", etc.....all quite "artistic" IMO.
as for most talented singer....that's subjective at best. many consider Lennon one of THE greatest R &R singers ever. he's certainly on my short list. (along w mac)
He really should have gotten a lot of the credit for composing Beatles music.
that i quite agree with. his writing (arranging skills are amazing) it's funny when you listen to the orchestral pieces he's credited with writing on Yellow Submarine...it's impossible to listen to those pieces that the Beatles had nothing to do with and not exclaim..."BEATLES!"
I highly recommend that every Beatles fan read his book, "All You Need Is Ears" to find out how much of what you love about the Beatles was actually George Martin.
yeah, that was a good read.
And did you know that Ringo is credited as the first drummer to use a pillow in the bass drum to deaden the ring? He was a jazz drummer hand picked by George Martin to replace Pete Best. Without that...perhaps no Beatles success would have happened. A good band with a bad drummer SUCKS!
hadn't heard that before about the pillow. hard to imagine that jazz drummers weren't already doing that for yrs previously. i do know that GM did not want to use ringo on early beatles recordings.
and then, there's Bernard "Pretty "Purdie's claim that he was hired to play drums on many of the early beatles songs. he's never said which, and i don't really recognize his playing on any of their tunes... whereas it's pretty easy to tell when mac is sitting behind the drums.
i also don't know about calling ringo a "jazz drummer" though he has a great "swing feel" to his playing. who else but ringo would have chose to give "Winding Rd" a swing feel??? (brilliant choice!).
to my knowledge ringo wasn't playing in jazz bands before the beatles. i love his playing, but i no more think of ringo as a "jazz drummer" than i do Micheal Shrieve (Santana), Bill Ward (Blk Sabbath), or Steve Smith (orig drummer in Journey)...great drummers all, and that "jazz drummer" bit is often attributed to them....but nah, not "jazz drummers" (tho smith HAS played jazz in other deals....ok, maybe he's a bad example!)
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