General Chat (Non-Music-Related)

I was an atheist because I didn't want any moral judgements at all."

well, that's YOU, ted. others (like myself) are atheists simply because we don't believe in god. and not because we're looking to skate, get a free pass, and have no moral code.

and because you have such a book that you must continually refer back to and quote, you think christians stand on some higher moral ground?

I've never said anything of the like. What I'm saying is that there is an expectation of higher personal integrity even when no one is looking.

are you kidding? that is exactly what you've been saying.....jews and christians have a higher moral code and atheists have none!

Sure there are hypocrites you can point at, but they have disobeyed their stated belief system. We all readily admit that none of us live up to it perfectly, yet there is no such moral standard for an atheist.

now, on the other hand, all you Islamophobes....you're the ones w the "fear" and intolerance for those w a different belief system!

This is a good example of why we can't get anywhere on this issue.

we can't get anywhere as long as you're intolerant of any and all who follow non judeao/christian doctrine. your close mindedness and intolerance has led you to believe that jihadists represent islam and ALL muslims everywhere. i might just as easily point to the KKK and suggest they represent ALL christians everywhere! equally ridiculous and preposterous.

Atheists are (and have always been) the worst at demanding uniformity of thought with the threat of violence, Mark. The evidence is clear and documented with Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot being the worst mass murderers of the last century, killing anyone who proclaimed faith in anything but the godless State.

you point to stalin and pol pot as representing ALL atheists everywhere. what nonsense. they no more represent atheists that hitler and mussolini represent ALL christians.

what they have in common is that they were ruthless and despicable dictators.

(please don't trot out that tired fallback argument... "yeah, well uh they weren't following the letter of the law the bible puts forth")

My faith comes from the Jewish bible which says that innocent life is precious, and all people have immense value. You don't find that same conviction in atheists or Islamists. This is obvious truth you are kicking against.

"precious"??? your dislike of all things muslim and atheist suggest otherwise. and the arrogance and close minded intolerance you display by proclaiming as FACT that I or any other atheists DON'T believe "innocent life is precious, and all people have immense value" says more about your belief system than it does about mine.

i don't need to refer to a rule book to recognize that life is precious or people's value. (regardless of whether or not they follow judeao-christian doctrine)

i don't need to refer to a rule book to recognize that life is precious or people's value. (regardless of whether or not they follow judeao-christian doctrine)

that's because you were raised with a strong jewish ethic in a judeo-christian nation.

I'm starting to think that you've never left the borders of America. Things are very different outside of this place, or at least they were....

And Christians are constantly being painted on this discussion board as comparative to the KKK, to the Spanish Inquisition, or child-molesters, or greedy televangelists. If you think that is a fair comparison (not saying that you personally do, but haven't seen you disagree) then the comparison to godless leaders who are atheist is just as fair.

Again....it works both ways.


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Futhermore, I don't like someone broadcasting in minor 6th scales at 5 AM in my neighborhood no matter what their religion is. Heck, I wouldn't like "Amazing Grace" every morning & night either!?!

C'mon Yod.
If you're in Israel you will hear the Phrygian mode played throughout their morning prayer services. Wouldn't hurt to wake up w/ them and check 'em out a time or two. I love Eastern music. What do you think Christ listened to while he was on Earth? It wasn't Contemporary Christian music from the West, that's for sure!

I love it so much that it's what I play....but I don't turn my PA system on at 5 AM and blast it to my neighbors.

Have you ever experienced that? It's surreal and creeeeeeepy.

Ah but it will not sound so sweet when they have destroyed your, country, your home, your family and livelihood from within ... enabled by by the scum you voted for. No longer deaf but dead perhaps. Oh do I sound like a politician now silly Billy . Hollow jabs are easily deflected but rampant ignorance is impossible to deny.

Live Well Die Well

the Syrian Christians are being persecuted though, one good thing about Assad is he cares for Christians and protects them.. the Christians don't cause trouble in Syria and another reason for Assad to honor them..

the Syrian Christians are being persecuted though, one good thing about Assad is he cares for Christians and protects them.. the Christians don't cause trouble in Syria and another reason for Assad to honor them..

That's not really true. I have a friend who is a Syrian baptist. I've never met someone so afraid of his own shadow. He married a German girl and moved out of Syria. Currently no one knows where he is because he constantly lives in fear of the Syrian secret police; we're not even sure he's alive, actually.

But whenever anyone would take a camera out of their pocket, he would freak and run off; afraid of having his picture appear anywhere.

Assad is as evil as they come, but the Baathist Party is secular and pluralistic. He realizes that Christians aren't trying to overthrow him and leaves them alone, as long as they remain quiet about the government.


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Jook
Re Christians in Syria
It's more on the order of 2 million. Many are homeless, fleeing the rampaging ISIS swine.

The Muslim Syrians learn toward Alawaki which is similar to Iran's Shiites. The Saudi butchers , Turkey, the US and Qatar are supplying ISIS. Russia, and Iran are supporting Syria.

Obama has been pushing back against taking Christian refugees - after all - he prefers the rabble.

Christians are also fighting along side the Kurds in Iraq. Obama has allowed the Turkish scum to bomb the Kurds, just as Bush I allowed to Sadamm to do so. Obama pretends they are attacking ISIS.

The game changed when those dumbasses ambushed a Russian plan and murdered the pilot. Already, Ivan has wiped out a Turkish supply column reinforcing terrorists. I guess the terrorists will have to do without supplies from Turkey from now on.

Oh wait - the traitor in chief just authorized printing another half a billion to send to the 'moderate' terrorists. They'll be fine. On our dime.

Here in the Bizarro world...

Talbot

Never "did" any pot, mushrooms, acid, speed or horse ... sorry but the "End" is actually here and has been for quite some time. The "End" is not a Walt Disney movie that ends quickly and then the sun comes out . Very soon the States will be de-toothed by making the utterly unnecessary act of "going" to Federal Court. When this happens then the last vestige of the Constitution and Freedom will be purged and .... it will make absolutely no difference what stupid "party" anyone belongs to.