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#24867 by RhythmMan
Sun Mar 09, 2008 3:18 pm
himelementskater wrote:Yeah I know what you're talking about. I'm in a band now, kind of. When I first started they needed a lead guitarist...so of course I said yeah I'll be your lead guitarist...and they all acted like they wanted to be in a band so bad, but they never want to practice! And I do! If you don't practice you won't go anywhere. Like the other day we were all going over to one of the band member's house, and I asked if he wanted us to bring our guitars or anything, and they didnt! That would have been a perfectly good time to practice, we were there for 3 and a half hours or more atleast...pure laziness... I'm actually starting another band lol...hopefully they're more commited to it then my current band mates lol :)

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They're friends first, and music is kind-of a hobby with them.
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If you want to play lead in a band, though, you'll need to find a band. Cause, you haven't . . .
. . . yet.

#24877 by gbheil
Sun Mar 09, 2008 6:26 pm
BINGO ! the boys in our band are friends but I only knew one of them "Preband" The band and our music is the central focus of our "friendship" I hpoe that if there is ever a "postband" era we remain friends as for my part I respect each one of them. But for now it works.

#24888 by Just_Dustin
Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:03 pm
what if your "Good friend" you had a few bands & had plans to start a new project with sudenly just vannishes leaving you in the dark just to find out later he's joined another group & doesn't say anything to you about it?

#24897 by gbheil
Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:29 pm
It is a hard pill to choke down when someone you consider a friend lets you down. But to err is human, to forgive is devine.
Or in the words of the imortal Tuco Ramirez. "when its time to shoot, SHOOT, dont talk." (just kiddin)

#24901 by RhythmMan
Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:45 pm
Just_Dustin wrote:what if your "Good friend" you had a few bands & had plans to start a new project with sudenly just vannishes leaving you in the dark just to find out later he's joined another group & doesn't say anything to you about it?

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Don't take it too . . . hard; it might not have been personal, it might have been musical.
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Not knowing either of you, and only hearing the one side of the story . . .
. . . it kind of sounds like maybe he just practiced more than you . . . maybe improved more . . .
. . . dunno . . .
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But, in that situation, I guess it could be kind of hard to remain friends.
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One day you may find yourself in a similar situation, but from the other side . . .
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Here is a piece of unsolicited advice, and you can yell at me for it, if you like:

Never let anyone hold you back.

#24905 by Just_Dustin
Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:55 pm
sanshouheil wrote:It is a hard pill to choke down when someone you consider a friend lets you down. But to err is human, to forgive is devine.
Or in the words of the imortal Tuco Ramirez. "when its time to shoot, SHOOT, dont talk." (just kiddin)

oh I forgive him but an explaination would have been nice. his new band does sound pretty good & I'm proud of him. by the way is being too eager a bad thing as well?

#24906 by gbheil
Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:24 pm
Being eager sometimes is equated with being foolhardy: The only danger in running your engine full out is burn out. Save some for the finish line.
Look before you leap then use both feet. and above all read what RhythmMan wrote. (I'm running low on silly sayings) Just be shure when the time comes you make that explanation to the others involved. We had an awsome drummer play with us one night , talked all this crap made all these plans and bingo never saw him again. We knew he was light years ahead of us I'd felt better about it if he'd just said Yall suck I'm not gonna waste my time here, A least it would have been honest.

#24914 by Kramerguy
Mon Mar 10, 2008 1:19 am
sanshouheil wrote:Being eager sometimes is equated with being foolhardy: The only danger in running your engine full out is burn out. Save some for the finish line.
Look before you leap then use both feet. and above all read what RhythmMan wrote. (I'm running low on silly sayings) Just be shure when the time comes you make that explanation to the others involved. We had an awsome drummer play with us one night , talked all this crap made all these plans and bingo never saw him again. We knew he was light years ahead of us I'd felt better about it if he'd just said Yall suck I'm not gonna waste my time here, A least it would have been honest.


Haha, good one.

I did have ONE really good audition recently, and while I wasn't exactly what they needed (even I knew it at the audition), they were 150% professional and genuinely nice guys. They didn't bullshit me, nor did they insult me. Thumbs up to Vertigo Vibe.

#24944 by gbheil
Mon Mar 10, 2008 1:42 pm
Needs directions and contacts evolve dont lose touch with anyone whom may be a remote benifit to your goal.

#24961 by RhythmMan
Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:55 pm
sanshouheil wrote: . . . . dont lose touch with anyone . . . .

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I've said this before.
Because, sometimes, there's a 'friend of a friend' . . . .
Keep a file of names & addresses . . .

#24989 by lalong
Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:26 pm
Hey Kramerguy, the stuff you uploaded sounds cool, better then a lot of some other stuff I happen across. I don't understand the hesitation, it's why we are here right?

Strange Surf had a good Peter Gunn vibe to it, with some nice floydish tones. :)
I think you went too long with the Tubular Bells sound in Crazy, but it ends in nice catch with the guitar, the phasing was pretty cool.

At first I only browsed "Crazy" for a maybe three, three and a half minutes, after reading Craig Maxim's post I checked out the ending. You should have some of that earlier on, sounded a bit like Joe Satriani, but you really don't even get started until five minutes in, when the average song is about four minutes in length. Chances are a lot of listeners may say, well it was good but nothing spectacular after three or four minutes, if you had more of that ending lead earlier, I think you would definitely keep them hooked. Just my two cents. I don't know you folks feel about it, but I can't stand restructuring old music, I hate going back.

It's really good stuff and I hope you find the people you need to bring it to the next level.

I do a search for local musicians and most profiles have nothing uploaded, yet some insists on wanting something compatible with their sound? Um like what echoes and crickets? :) I ran into a few blank profiles that don't even explain what they are looking for, or their purpose for being here. If they can't even fill out the profile to any degree, there is no way I'd even consider responding. Maybe they just get tired of trying/looking and are hoping an opportunity will just fall from the sky, who knows?

I have been stuck on doing my own thing and just recently decided to try to get out there and try for some gigs. I just did my first audition and it was like one hellish day, access roads flooded, hurricane like rain, fallen trees in the roadway, I had to drive back home through a crested river. Anyway after getting there the audition had an awkward feel to it. It wasn't what I expected as I am sure I wasn't what they expected either. It was just weird, like trying to have a meaningful conversation with strangers on an elevator. I really liked the way their music sounded, but I don't think they liked the way I fit into their plans, hopefully they find what they need. I did learn a lot just by going. Some obvious points, which only become obvious to me after actually doing things wrong. I'm not discouraged yet, it's only been one try at this, but if it happens enough times I could see myself eventually getting gun shy.

I'm just proposing that maybe a lot of folks are fine with the possibility, will eagerly leap at the chance, but balk at the reality of exposing themselves to doing what they dream of. It does take a degree of foolishness and bravado to continue anything, with even the slightest chance of rejection and failure. Not that it's an excuse to keep someone hanging, but it may not just be laziness as the cause. I suspect some folks have whimsical notion that it will just happen, and failed to realize the steps may be steep and scary if their goal requires any sort of actual performance. Once they realize you're committed to the idea, they may panic knowing that they were not.

#25003 by Irminsul
Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:05 pm
It's not a crime to change your mind about joining an act once you find more information out about them. The idea is to be honest about your goals and your perceptions of what's going on - and being communicative. That avoids "flake behavior".

Case in point. Last week I was contacted by a group of people who were forming a band and they wanted a keyboard player who didn't have to be limited to participation in that band. The guy who put it together is a great person - smart, experienced and very copacetic nature. The music sounded like it would be right up my alley. I was excited, and I told him so (there's your "initial exhuberance"). We decided to meet, and then go look at a practice space. So we meet up, and two of the people in this proposed act strike me as undesirable to play with; one because he is just so negative, and the other because he wanted to go into a musical direction that I definitely didn't. We checked out the practice space and, suffice to say, it was a scary disaster. So, after driving home from that meeting and mulling over all these factors, I contacted the band organizer and told him that I had decided this wasn't for me.

Was that wrong? Not in the least. It is how we make decisions and it's perfectly legit. What would have been f**k up is if I acted into it even after the meeting and then simply didn't show up for a rehearsal or cut off all contact with the organizer.

It can't be said enough - honest communication is key.

#25030 by Kramerguy
Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:31 am
lalong wrote:
At first I only browsed "Crazy" for a maybe three, three and a half minutes, after reading Craig Maxim's post I checked out the ending. You should have some of that earlier on, sounded a bit like Joe Satriani, but you really don't even get started until five minutes in, when the average song is about four minutes in length. Chances are a lot of listeners may say, well it was good but nothing spectacular after three or four minutes, if you had more of that ending lead earlier, I think you would definitely keep them hooked. Just my two cents. I don't know you folks feel about it, but I can't stand restructuring old music, I hate going back.

It's really good stuff and I hope you find the people you need to bring it to the next level.


Hey thanks for the in-depth analysis! I agree, the beginning of crazy drug too long, What was in my head never sounds like what comes out of the recorder..
the funny part is that I thought the lead at the end sucked, I like the first 2 measures of it, then I felt it just went into mindless wankery, but after seeing you all liking it, maybe I will do a special wank track :lol:

Again, thanks. I appreciate the feedback!

#25085 by Craig Maxim
Tue Mar 11, 2008 4:00 am
Irminsul wrote:
It's not a crime



Thanks Irminsul!!!

Who knows why, but that just inspired a whole song in my head!!!!

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