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at least 10 killed in Oregon

Jimmy, what kind of gun control do you want? Please be specific.

Of course liberals attempt to conceal the fact that almost all of these incidents happen in "Gun Free Zones". It appears that these incidents are the bread and butter of the fascists that wish to disarm Americans in order to exercise complete tyrannical domination over them. A good many dictators would not have grabbed total power over the people if gun control had not taken place first.

So what happens when guns are taken from everyone but the lawless? Some Communist/Marxist/Socialist countries have done that. As soon as the gun grabbers accomplished their goals and citizens no longer owned guns millions were slaughtered by some of those regimes.

The second amendment was written to protect U.S.citizens from a lawless tyrannical government. Why? Because the founders knew that this could happen. But they don't teach that in the liberal communist school system anymore do they? They used to.

Here is an example of Liberal butt stupid gun control at its finest, right gui?
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Armed Air Force Vet Was Prevented From Stopping Oregon Gunman

http://conservativeread.com/armed-air-f ... on-gunman/

October 2, 2015 chris Leave a Comment

Paul Joseph Watson,

“The staff wouldn’t let us go to assist”

An Air Force veteran who had a licensed concealed carry gun was prevented by staff from intervening in the shooting yesterday at the Umpqua Community College during which ten people were killed.

John Parker was situated in a building about 200 yards away from where the shooting began.

“There were a few people in the vet center and then when we heard the shooting happened, we got up and we were gonna go out and see what we could do,” Parker told Fox News’ Sean Hannity.

Armedvetstopped

“Immediately the school staff stopped us and told us to get inside of the building….essentially the staff wouldn’t let us go to assist,” he added.

One courageous man who also tried to apprehend the shooter, Army veteran Chris Mintz, ended up being shot five times. Mintz was unarmed.

In asserting his right to concealed carry, Parker was knowingly violating a rule which declared the college to be a gun free zone.

As we reported yesterday, a post on the college website made it clear that even water pistols were banned on campus.

The single security officer working on the campus was also unarmed, according to the Associated Press.

Meanwhile, as news emerges that the gunman, 26-year-old Chris Harper Mercer, was a potential Islamist sympathizer who dabbled in the occult, expect the left to lose interest in the incident quickly.

The fact that Mercer is mixed race will also make it impossible for progressives to blame the shooting on all white people, as many did in the aftermath of the Dylann Roof shooting.

Mercer reportedly targeted Christians during the shooting, asking victims about their religion and shooting anyone who identified as a Christian in the head.

“[He started] asking people one by one what their religion was. ‘Are you a Christian?’ he would ask them, and if you’re a Christian stand up. And they would stand up and he said, ‘Good, because you’re a Christian, you are going to see God in just about one second.’ And then he shot and killed them,” Stacy Boylen, whose daughter was wounded at Umpqua Community College in Roseburg, Ore., told CNN.

The second amendment was written to protect U.S.citizens from a lawless tyrannical government.

Then why isn't it working?

It's the height of hypocrisy for the President to act indignant about violence in America while inciting it with his other hand.


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Inciting in the same way he's from Kenya, a secret Muslim, and "anti Christian"!

It's the latest mantra of the Obama hatrers shouted from the rooftops w the same logic..... keep repeating it over and over til it gets traction.

Inciting? How? Please be specific.

Which time???

There are so many.....

SEIU, ACORN, etc.

The most obvious recent one is meeting with Sharpton, (a known race-baiting fraud) and then coordinated that with "Black Lives Matter", then created and spread several false narratives (lies) about multiple stories that later proved to be lies, and funded the thugs/punks who go to lead the "protests" that inflame racial passions.

I think this shooter looked like Obama's son, if he'd had one.

Then there is Fast & Furious...did anyone notice that the Border Agent who exposed them was just murdered?

But the worst is yet to come. This treasonous Iran deal WILL (and indeed already is going to) lead to more carnage and death than the world has EVER seen. He'll make Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pol, and Mao look like kindergartners before it's over.


And this happens every time there is a shooter. The leftists, liberals, democrats are so desperate to link it to the right that they have become predictable. The post before this one tries to postulate that this thug was a conservative republican. Oh bullshirts!? First of all, no one knows because the media isn't commenting on it, are they? The only thing I've seen so far about him is that he is BRITISH and wanted to be welcomed in hell.




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Jimmy, you never answered my question, please be specific.

Jimmy, have you considered that with making most of these restrictions these items would be readily available on the black market. IMO what you are wanting is a physical impossibility? Criminals would have access to them and the public would not be able to defend against them. You are in essence wanting to disarm law abiding citizens and arm criminals! Is that your agenda?

I've made my opinions very clear several times, I don't really think you care about them anyway.

edit: It's possible you did not see or read my opinion, so just for you Jeff: ss

You would find that almost everyone would agree to common sense measures. We have been very polarized on the issue because there are people who will take a mile if you give them an inch. If there were reasonable measures proposed outside of an emotional situation (mass shooting) there would be less reason to be suspicious of politicians who we know can't be trusted to honor their word. A habitual liar like Obama will not see any movement on gun restrictions from the Democrats, much less Republicans.




THESE ARE REASONABLE ACTIONS THAT I WOULD SUPPORT (and frankly thought were already Law)

4) only allow sales of weapons to individuals with no criminal records of ANY kind.

5) remove any "loopholes" for background checks - for example if the check is not completed in three days. No background check, no sale.

6) require biometric or other locking methods for all firearms so that if the weapon is stolen it won't work. ADD: If an owner has more than 3 weapons, they should be required to have an affordable biometric gun safe also.

7) allow background checks to access an individual's medical records. Those with past or current mental health issues or on psychotropic drugs would not be eligible to purchase firearms. (this is the only recommendation that would have stopped most of the recent mass incidents, and indeed, is the root of recent shootings. Its also the one recommendation that would get immediate support on all sides.)

make second-hand sales and gifting of firearms illegal. If no longer wanted, firearms could be sold to authorized dealers only.[/quote] [i](I might support a citizen not being able to sell a gun to a stranger, but giving them to someone you know should be legal.)


I want to add something that you may have overlooked.

9. ONLY eligible voters and naturalized citizens should ever own a weapon, or have one in their possession.


THESE ARE NOT REASONABLE IF THE ABOVE ARE IMPLEMENTED
1) severely restrict the sale of semi-automatic weapons (incorrectly called assault weapons). These weapons are not used for hunting and are not needed for defensive purposes, they are designed for killing large numbers of people quickly, period.

2) restrict the sale of high-capacity ammo clips and cartridges for these types of weapons.

3) make gun show sales illegal, or enforce the waiting periods for weapons purchased at these shows.

Show me in the constitution how anyone who is not institutionalized or under supervision of Criminal Justice system (ie parole, probation) can be denied a firearm. The bill of rights defines God given rights - it does not grant them - it identifies them.

If they can't be trusted with a firearm - keep them in jail.

That said - use a firearm in a crime - hang. That used to work.

Talbot