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#246327 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:37 pm
Planetguy wrote:so, because someone didn't have parents who showed them right from wrong....SCREW 'EM. after all YOUR parents taught YOU right from wrong! it's not YOUR responsibility to try to educate them or help them improve their lot in life..



That's nowhere near our position, bro.

I had bad parenting, and an absent father for most of my adolescence. I had been through 5 divorces by the time I was 10 years old. Came from a poor family, and went to 19 public schools before being a high-school dropout on drugs in 11th grade. By the way, I dropped out to marry a girl who told me she was pregnant (a lie) rather than kill the baby. I was not a Christian for another 17 years, but I knew it was wrong for a baby to suffer the consequences of my mistakes.

It was learning to overcome the circumstances of life that made me anything I might be today. My sister was coddled and it produced the opposite.

So now I offer counter-point to your statement with this: You must really think poor people are too stupid to figure it out. Seems rather condescending to assume that, given the same challenge, a young person wouldn't be able to figure out another way except the violent killing of an innocent baby.

Planned non-Parenthood counsels them for abortion primarily. Yes, they do the required information about alternatives in a half-hearted way sometimes, but we all know that they are pushing their biggest source of income; abortion on demand as a means of birth control.


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#246328 by DigiMaxPro
Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:39 pm
And sorry that it wasn't clear before, but I don't support abortion as birth control at ANY time.


sure thing "yod", me too buddy
#246332 by Planetguy
Mon Aug 10, 2015 9:30 pm
ted, i'm not making any promises but i am gonna try to avoid being too obnoxious in my use of "resurfacing" these quotes of your's when i think appropos! (-:


yod wrote:That's nowhere near our position, bro.


yod wrote:I think this is the biggest lie of a stereo-type being perpetrated on you, bro....I really do. I've learned from hanging out with liberals most of my life that the stereo-types on both sides are extreme views that don't really represent the people who get lumped with them. But this lie is most pernicious...


both of these are so on point and relevant to too much of the right wing ballyhooing around here as they generalize and misrep what the left is about ...both quotes of your's capable of being used as a comeback to the many out and wrong and misinterpreted right wing/conservative views expressed here and elsewhere (read: conservative propaganda/spin job)! :)



i've often felt we have much in common and now learned that like myself you too dropped out in 11th grade! :D
#246336 by Badstrat
Mon Aug 10, 2015 10:29 pm
Megyn Kelly Compares Herself to Vladimir Putin
Posted 3 hours ago by Gary DeMar Filed under 2016 Election, Abortion

http://godfatherpolitics.com/24300/megy ... mir-putin/

Megyn Kelly has responded to criticisms that her question of the GOP candidates in the debate last Thursday were silly, agenda-oriented, and possibly designed to take out Donald Trump. What the other Republican candidates wouldn’t do, Fox was trying to do.

Here is Megyn Kelly’s response to the criticism:

“We were trying to drill down to most vulnerable areas and give them a chance to explain them and also give the audience a chance to see how they would handle that. So the job is to actually get past the talking points and go to the place where they might be most vulnerable with the Republican primary voters or conversely the place they may be most vulnerable in a general election and then give them the chance to knock that ball back to us. . . If you can’t get past me, how are you gonna handle Vladimir Putin?”

Putin would not be asking such questions. The new establishment sycophants at Fox should have asked the GOP candidates some of the questions that, on the international level, would have something to do with a powerful world leader like Putin.

If you're going to make the Putin analogy, then ask Putin-like questions. Are we to think that Putin would have asked this Megyn Kelly question?:

“Mr. Trump, one of the things people love about you is you speak your mind and you don’t use a politician’s filter. However, that is not without its downsides, in particular, when it comes to women. You’ve called women you don’t like, ‘fat pigs,’ ‘dogs,’ slobs, and disgusting animals.”

The topics that got Trump to the GOP debate stage were his comments on illegal immigration and crime and the United States diminished place in the world. But Kelly knew that if she had asked him questions related to these issues, Trump would have had the crowd on its feet.

Mark Levin said it best:

"This is about dumbing down the debate, turning it into a spectacle to promote Megyn Kelly, the moderators hogging limited time that should have been available to the candidates, flawed opposition research in one case taken completely out of context, etc. This was not to be the Fox debate but the first REPUBLICAN PARTY sanctioned debate."

Kelly asked Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker this question on his strict abortion stance: “Would you really let a mother die, rather than having an abortion?”

Let’s see if anyone will ask a Democrat candidate a question like this:

“Are you willing to allow more than one million unborn babies be killed every year in order to save the relatively few dangerous birth pregnancies that might require a procedure where an unborn baby might die?”

How would I have answered Megyn Kelly’s abortion question? Here are some things to keep in mind in formulating an answer.

First, how many of these life-threatening pregnancies take place in the United States that required an abortion? It’s less than one percent, certainly no number near 1.2 million. “Between 1967 and 1990, only 151 abortions have been carried out to save the mother's life, a figure amounting to 0.004% of all abortions. . .”

In 1992, a group of Ireland's top gynaecologists wrote: "We affirm that there are no medical circumstances justifying direct abortion, that is, no circumstances in which the life of a mother may only be saved by directly terminating the life of her unborn child."

I suspect that these statistics have not changed much over the years.

Second, why wasn’t there a question about the Planned Parenthood videos and how as President would each of the candidates deal with the half-billion dollars in tax-payer funding for the pro-abortion organization?

Third, when there is a pregnant woman, there are two patients. A doctor does not kill one to save the other. A doctor does his or her best to save both patients.

Dr. Alan Guttmacher of Planned Parenthood acknowledged:

“Today it is possible for almost any patient to be brought through pregnancy alive, unless she suffers from a fatal illness such as cancer or leukemia, and, if so, abortion would be unlikely to prolong, much less save, life.”1

That was in 1967. Since then medical procedures have gotten better that there are very few instances where a woman's life is in danger that an abortion would be absolutely necessary. Check out this list of answers to some abortion myths reading.

When Dr. Ben Carson was called on to separate conjoined twins, he didn’t kill one to save the other.

1. Alan F. Guttmacher, “Abortion—Yesterday, Today and Tomorrow,” The Case
#246338 by MikeTalbot
Mon Aug 10, 2015 11:04 pm
PG and Ted

Damn fellows - you had to make me look bad. Dropping out in 11th grade show beaucoup character.

I actually completed an entire semester of college before laughing that nonsense off! 8)

cheers
Talbot
#246343 by Planetguy
Tue Aug 11, 2015 1:18 am
mike, if it makes you feel any better...i did enroll in community college....just never went! :wink:
#246348 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Tue Aug 11, 2015 3:43 am
TheFarleys wrote:I almost didn't make it through 11th grade myself, it must be that age. I was skipping school, ingesting chemicals and fooling around with my girlfriend. However, by 12th grade I turned it around and graduated. I didn't go to college for ten years after high school, but I can't imagine my life if I hadn't.



I'm proud of ya! I also went back to finish high school when 10 months came around and there was no baby, but no one has ever asked to see my diploma.

I was a rock-n-roll idiot, determined to be a professional singer and figured that if I left myself a safety net, I'd fall back on it. I finally gave up on that dream at age 30, and had luckily learned a trade part-time (locksmithing) and worked my way into owning 2 companies for the next decade which became the way I funded being a recording artist.

In other words, I had to quit before anything really happened. Funny how life does that.


Ain't it interesting that the 3 of us all dropped out in 11th?


:)
#246349 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Tue Aug 11, 2015 4:00 am
Planetguy wrote:both of these are so on point and relevant to too much of the right wing ballyhooing around here as they generalize and misrep what the left is about ...both quotes of your's capable of being used as a comeback to the many out and wrong and misinterpreted right wing/conservative views expressed here and elsewhere (read: conservative propaganda/spin job)! :)

i've often felt we have much in common and now learned that like myself you too dropped out in 11th grade! :D



I think we'd have some great jam sessions and drink too much if we could all get together. We'd laugh about how much we are alike, and realize that politicians are horrible little people we shouldn't even pay attention to. Then we'd hear a mean solo from the Stratist, some fat sounds from Detroit, and then some mean Houston metal riffs would take it home.

Yes....I'll drink to that!


:lol:
#246360 by J-HALEY
Tue Aug 11, 2015 4:17 pm
I'll "Drank" to that! :D
#246374 by DigiMaxPro
Wed Aug 12, 2015 12:38 am
LoL! :D :D
#246377 by bigben690
Wed Aug 12, 2015 3:00 am
Oh by the way, did anyone remember that Margaret Sanger started Planned Parenthood as a way to eliminate undesirable genetic elements in society, such as , oh , African Americans? Hispanic Americans? Non-Aryan Americans? (oopsie!)
#246390 by Planetguy
Wed Aug 12, 2015 1:38 pm
bigben690 wrote:Oh by the way, did anyone remember that Margaret Sanger started Planned Parenthood as a way to eliminate undesirable genetic elements in society, such as , oh , African Americans? Hispanic Americans? Non-Aryan Americans? (oopsie!)


yeah....SURE she did.

and i started (and continue to) play bass in a truckstop house band to become rich and famous! :roll:

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