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Live I've said so many time....it's only a reaction to the extremism on the left.

aw c'mon ted, you're smart enough to see that's a two headed monster that works both ways.... whichever side of the bread you butter! chicken and the egg. chicken and the egg.

That's kind of what I said...but the left keeps getting more and more extreme to the point that we've lost sovereignty, with the help of the "moderates" on the right....and now it's the "extremists" who are in trying to restore America to the greatness we once enjoyed.

We had 140+ years as the greatest economy on earth, that all ended with Obama's second term.

The "extreme" right wants to save the lives of innocent children, while the left wants to sell their body parts. The "extreme" right knows the difference between male & female, while the left blurs that distinction as if it doesn't matter. The "extreme" right wants businesses to prosper (90% of which are small businesses employing locally) while the left wants the government to be the biggest employer. The "extreme" right wants the FIRST AMENDMENT of the Constitution to be honored so people of all faiths, or no faith at all, are not coerced into going against their deepest held convictions, while the left wants everyone to worship the State as god.

and you believe there's been no fall out or anything really bad that's come about from the right's and ultra right's reaction to to the left's views and policies????? pshaw.

(and no...i have neither the time nor inclination to write an essay nor laundry list citing examples. either you're willing to be openminded enough to admit it cuts both ways...or you're not.)

Ted

To place the cause of our economic decline on Obama is unfair. Yeah - he's dreadful I get that. But we've had a long string of dishonest, unpatriotic buffoons from both parties.

I use this example: In 1911 you could buy a new Colt pistol or a suit of clothes for a twenty dollar gold piece. You still can. Just don't try it with cash.

It took both parties. Otherwise, the devaluation of our currency would have happened once and the next time power shifted it would have been rolled back. It never was. There is no opposition party.

Bush II and Obama delivered the coup de grace.

Talbot

What it means today:

* hatred of outsiders, especially immigrants

Such ignorance. They are not immigrants. Most of them have no intentions to blending into American society. They are illegal aliens invading America . The conservatives not bowing to the flow of the unregulated illegal invasion is your problem. Whenever conservatives stand against lawlessness demoncraps yell racism. We have immigration laws, all of which are being violated through a lawless regime. I can't think of a single GOP politician complaining against any immigrant of any ethnicity that came here legally. That's a demoncrap PC change the terminology game. These are lawbreakers and thieves robbing the American taxpayers of jobs and money. Demons throw in their lot with the lawless and participate in their crimes.

* paranoia and mistrust of government

Huh? This is the most corrupt lawless regime ever holding office in America. They lie at every turn. Yes, gullible liberals gobble up all the lies, but conservatives do not. Barackulas proven lies could fill a library. Today the GOP is in league with liar incorporated. Only a complete fool could accept any of their drivel. And that is paranoia? That is not paranoia, it is fact. They are a bigger threat too America than ISIS ever could even dream. They are destroying what little they do not give away to Americas enemies. We have the most stupid corrupt people on the planet ruling America today. And you want anyone with common sense to trust them? And the lawless takeover of America was not a conspiracy until it was proven to be factual? Wake up dude and smell the tyranny.

* inflexible attitude towards changing social issues (gay marriage, abortion, etc)

Conservatives do not endorse the perversion readily accepted by the liberal reprobate mind. Neither do those of many religions accept what their teachings clearly define as perversion or an abomination to their God. Neither do they readily accept the violations of their freedom of religion under the first amendment due to the reprobate judges and politicians calling perversion normal.

* strong military for offense (Trump "bomb the hell out of them")

Nevill obama has gutted the military and given the bomb to the Islamonazis that swear to Allah to use the nukes against America and Israel. Even the RINOs are getting a bit worried over Nevills stupidity and naiveté. Obviously the brain dead want to let them do their best to deploy a first strike annihilation attempt against America or Israel before we try to stop them. That is the way the liberal mind works, isn't it? Even at that I imagine the liberal establishment would insist that our radiated glow in the dark troops not be allowed to use live rounds in combat should what's left of them invade Iraq. Neville obama is not only building up military defenses but also strengthening the ability for a first strike if needed. Unfortunately he is doing that for the people that vow to destroy America and Israel while at the same time lessening Americas defense capability.

and you believe there's been no fall out or anything really bad that's come about from the right's and ultra right's reaction to to the left's views and policies????? pshaw.

(and no...i have neither the time nor inclination to write an essay nor laundry list citing examples. either you're willing to be openminded enough to admit it cuts both ways...or you're not.)

Don't be so lazy. I'd love to hear ANYONE on the Left explain how we even have a nation remaining if something extreme doesn't happen.

But you're making my point for me, actually. There will be a reaction that you are not going to like, because you've allowed and supported the extremism of the Left to go unabated.

And something extremely really bad has to happen before people being duped by the left (and the left disguised as the right) wake up. That point is obvious.

I have my doubts about America being able to recover from the damage done by Obama. If the Dems win the next election, I can say with certainty that we won't.



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Ted

To place the cause of our economic decline on Obama is unfair.

No, it isn't. If you want to make an apples to apples comparison, it's Bush vs Carter, Obama vs Reagan.

This is the worst economy in more than 140 years. The so-called "recovery" numbers are all fudged.

When Reagan came in after the Carter debacle, his policy had America growing at a 4.5% clip during that recession recovery. O has had 7 years now and it's barely reaching 2%, revised down from 2.3%. Numbers aren't very sexy to discuss, but if you look at them, there is no other conclusion except we are being choked to death by this Administration's failed policies. ...and it sure looks like it's done on purpose.

Unemployment is "down" only because they stopped counting people who have given up. Most of the employed can only find part-time, small business is dwindling, and illegal immigrants are taking half of what is leftover.

The dollar is worth less than ever before because they simply print more to fund O's golf trips and Michelle's billion dollar vacations every month.

I never liked Bush but he had a Democrat Congress that has gotten off scott-free for their crimes against America, especially Chris Dodd and Barney Frank. As horrible as Bush was, Obama is that times 10.

They've all been printing money right along Ted.

Nixon- A republican, was the worst. He devalued our currency by taking us off the gold standard and then froze wages. I wonder what constitutional authority he had for that? Value of our currency dropped about 30% IIRC. Had to pay for Vietnam and the Great Society right?

Then that liar Ford - with his phony WIN buttons (wip inflation now) like we had something to do with it . That really cheesed me off.

Carter - got us up to 20% inflation. A truly appalling clown.

Reagan - naw... Charming fellow but I watched my paycheck carefully when he 'cut' taxes. Funny - social sec rip off increased and my check actually went down. Thanks Ronnie.

Bush II - an appalling creature that delivered the Kurds into the gunship slaughter set up by Sadaam - Bush's ally - yeah Bush betrayed him too. He is the bastard that expanded NATO after the fall of the Soviets. Betraying Russia and all of us who were sick of that sh*t.

Clinton - well not much to say there eh? Reduced the deficit? Baloney. Simply couldn't get his bills passed. The yearly increase went down a bit - the total didn't. If was 5 Trillion after he lurched off the stage. His regime had one very good thing going for it - gridlock!

Bush II - an incredible buffoon got the national debt up to 12 Trillion. Launched yet another useless war against Iraq who had done nothing to us. btw - how does one get that prescription drug 'benefit' bullshit he was peddling? Oh right - it went to big Pharma. But at least he gave us Homeland Security, the Patriot Act and TSA. And peddled that 'religion of peace' nonsense while letting Osama Bin Laden escape from Tora Bora on orders from his Saudi masters. A stinking piece of trash was he.

Obama - another incredible buffoon now has deficit up around 18 Trillion and has thrown our borders open - actually paying Honduras to send us their unwanted. He is betraying the Kurds (and Christians, but who cares eh) into the hands of Turkey and ISIS respectively. he also is responsible for the Libyan debacle, the slaughter in Syria and he tried desperately to put the Muslim Brotherhood in charge of Egypt, driving them into the arms of Russia. And of course he sponsored that coup in Ukraine and is trying to start a war with Ivan. He is perhaps the worst of the lot - but he is building on what his predecessors bequeathed him.

To me the worst thing of all is abortion. Democrats absolutely disgraced themselves pushing that horror. Stopping that has been part of the Republican platform since it started. Yet every republican president but Reagan has been pro-abortion and he didn't do anything about it. So republicans? f**k them.

And that ladies and gentlemen, is why I don't trust any of those lying sons of bitches. And why I take no sides on this left / right melodrama which plays into their hands.

Talbot

Republicans are driving America into a brick wall at 60 miles an hour. With Democrats it's 100 mph. Dead is dead.

Something "extreme" is all that will slow it down.