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#241745 by Badstrat
Sun Apr 12, 2015 4:51 am
New York Times: Christians Must Be Forced To Accept Gay Lifestyle
chris 04/10/2015 christians, Faith, Gays

L. Todd Wood,

If you ever needed proof of the Left’s totalitarian tendencies, the New York Times has provided it. There is an old liberal saying: “The world is just one execution away from utopia.” Yesterday, the NYT decided that Christians have to be “forced” to accept the gay lifestyle.

In a tirade against people of faith and their “sins,” Frank Bruni goes off on Christians everywhere, demeaning them and basically saying they are unfit to be human beings. However, the striking thing is not just his hatred of Christians, but his remedy to their supposed wrongs.

http://conservativeread.com/new-york-ti ... lifestyle/

Bruni wants churches to be unable to call homosexuality a sin. He wants the liberal church teaching of ‘anything goes’ to be adopted by all.

Gaylives

Breitbart puts it this way:

Op-ed writer Frank Bruni, onetime Times restaurant critic and a gay activist, has written that Christians who hold on to “ossified,” biblically-based beliefs regarding sexual morality have no place at America’s table and are deserving of no particular regard.

In one fell swoop, Bruni trashes all believing Christians as “bigots,” saying that Christians’ negative moral assessment of homosexual relations is “a choice” that “prioritizes scattered passages of ancient texts over all that has been learned since — as if time had stood still, as if the advances of science and knowledge meant nothing.”

In other words, if you still cling to your benighted views and your “ancient texts,” you are living in the past and your views merit no respect.

Bruni’s solution to the impasse is not some sort of goodwill compromise or a treaty of mutual respect, but a take-no-prisoners ultimatum to Christians to abandon their beliefs or else.

Mainstream denominations are dying across America as they embrace Brunei’s call to arms. Frankly, I usually don’t wade into the social issues debate; but the totalitarian angle of his thesis is disturbing to me.

Of course, if you listen hard, you can hear the Left also bashing Islam and their killing and mutilating of homosexuals all over the world.
#241765 by Planetguy
Sun Apr 12, 2015 3:47 pm
thanks for posting the actual article, jimmy.

what a totally dishonest portrayal the OP makes of the ACTUAL NYT article.

"In a tirade against people of faith and their “sins,” Frank Bruni goes off on Christians everywhere, demeaning them and basically saying they are unfit to be human beings. However, the striking thing is not just his hatred of Christians, but his remedy to their supposed wrongs."


he HATES christians???? where is there ANY indication to justify that conclusion????

he DEMEANS them? how? where?

he calls them "unfit as human beings"???? more bull$hit.

what complete and utter BULL$HIT! show me where that's even CLOSE to what he wrote! (warning: that WILL require you to actually READ what HE wrote and not just accept robot-like some hateful conservative's PARAPHRASING and distorting of the actual NYT article)


the problem is the sheep mentality of those who read these hatchet jobs and false claims from http://www.conservativeliesandhatespeak.com where they've distorted what was written w their interpretation and paraphrasing almost to the point of absurdity.

their "flock" doesn't need to check what the actual NYT article actually SAID, but instead simply swallows the distortion unquestioningly as gospel w/o ever checking the actual article. baaaaaaaaah. baaaaaaaaaah.
#241777 by Badstrat
Sun Apr 12, 2015 11:20 pm
The Conservative read, although simply summing it all up avoids all the lies and innuendos put foreword in the times article posted below it. Bottom line is that GOD calls homosexuality a perversion, not the church. The Church does not make up the rules. Liberals try to make the rules, but God will have the last word on that also. I believe the Conservative read has made it short and to the point, and correctly. They are right in what they say. Faithful Christians are not allowed compromise for they know that God does not change. The statement made: " And homosexuality and Christianity don’t have to be in conflict in any church anywhere." Is nothing short of pure Satanic crap uttered by a completely incompetent tool.

I had not read the original article before, but upon reading it it I find that it to be no more than liberal Pollyanna crap embellished with the usual Satanic lies. Implying churches need to change is simply just what the Conservative claims it is. Religious persecution. Churches that change are doomed to destruction on the day of judgment.



troll?

Clipping a portion of a statement without context is pretty lame. I could post this out of context and see what you conclude.

For if it is not possible for the dead to come to life again, then Christ has not come to life again. 1Co 15:16

WOW! Christ has not come to life again!

Sounds like something liberals would love to believe doesn't it? However, when in context there is found a completley different meaning.

I doubt that anything would I say would matter to the deaf and blind, for it is my God who has made you deaf and blind to truth. If you weren't blinded to truth you wouldn't be defending those who wish to take your rights as an American away from you. And there are more than enough fools out there to assist you in destroying America.

Liberals have to be clueless to the actual dangers America faces under this incompetent lying politician. What Israel did years ago has no relevance to the threats being made today by a regime that has sworn to nuke Israel as soon as they have the ability to do just that.

What manner of American moron would help them obtain the bomb when they promise to nuke Israel and continually vow the destruction of America. Your whole future is based on smoke and mirrors, and when the smoke clears you will understand what you have helped them accomplish. You will want to turn it all back, but it will be too late.

All you libs just keep on drinking the cool aid. I know that we are to lose this battle, but we will win the war. How do I know that? I read the book. :)
#242500 by DainNobody
Wed Apr 29, 2015 4:27 pm
Planetguy wrote:thanks for posting the actual article, jimmy.

what a totally dishonest portrayal the OP makes of the ACTUAL NYT article.

"In a tirade against people of faith and their “sins,” Frank Bruni goes off on Christians everywhere, demeaning them and basically saying they are unfit to be human beings. However, the striking thing is not just his hatred of Christians, but his remedy to their supposed wrongs."


he HATES christians???? where is there ANY indication to justify that conclusion????

he DEMEANS them? how? where?

he calls them "unfit as human beings"???? more bull$hit.

what complete and utter BULL$HIT! show me where that's even CLOSE to what he wrote! (warning: that WILL require you to actually READ what HE wrote and not just accept robot-like some hateful conservative's PARAPHRASING and distorting of the actual NYT article)


the problem is the sheep mentality of those who read these hatchet jobs and false claims from http://www.conservativeliesandhatespeak.com where they've distorted what was written w their interpretation and paraphrasing almost to the point of absurdity.

their "flock" doesn't need to check what the actual NYT article actually SAID, but instead simply swallows the distortion unquestioningly as gospel w/o ever checking the actual article. baaaaaaaaah. baaaaaaaaaah.
Mark, once again you have clarified statements by OP that would confuse many, guess it's the way it was para-phrased...
#242523 by MikeTalbot
Wed Apr 29, 2015 10:13 pm
Westboro is Christian? Hmmm...

I can think of only one circumstance where they'd be welcome in a real church - if they came in to repent.

i was going to add a Biblical quote but no need - the whole New Testament refutes their 'theology' and I don't see a bright future for them in eternity.

Actual Christians in action: http://www.thequinnhouse.com/
Carol Quinn and her late husband created a ministry that caters to sinners - instead of kicking them in the head. When I knew them (I used to live in Gwinnett) many of the people who stayed there were just out of the slammer. Yet it was a very disciplined environment and everyone kicked in on the work. They even had a ministry for homosexuals. Yet idiots like those Westboro clowns have people thinking we'd rather just kill them.

JimmyD's account of the 'Christian' band in the Walmart Parking lot - sheesh...Must be the house band from Westboro.

There are times to resist police - very few...and that sure as hell wasn't one of them!

Talbot
#242550 by MikeTalbot
Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:40 pm
JimmyD

Actually, you are sadly, incorrect. A Christian is one who believes in Jesus Christ as his savior. I can only wish our conduct reflected the gift we have been given.

Christian conduct ranges from pretty good to appallingly bad. You'll note that most religions including Norse, Buddhist, Jewish etc have ethical codes quite as good as ours. (CS Lewis wrote a whole book about that). This makes me sad because our duty is to demonstrate our love of God by how we treat those He created in His image.

We cannot however - say someone is NOT a Christian because of their conduct. Obama and Bush both claim to Christians. To my eye their conduct does not support the claim. However, it is not my eye that counts. And my own conduct has often been so bad that I'm certainly more concerned with cleaning up my act that worrying about others.

Fortunately, God seems to like it best when the real scoundrels convert (i.e. St. Paul, Talbot et al) and I'm a very lucky hillbilly that He took the trouble.

A young black girl who worked for me a while back was humming a tune and I asked her what it was. "Pink Tornado" she replied. It refers to a scripture in the book of James - about how the tongue is a raging storm when we allow it to be... sigh my own temper proves that.

Talbot
#242553 by Badstrat
Thu Apr 30, 2015 5:37 pm
" I see no evidence that you or slacker are Christians, but there's plenty of evidence that you are delusional, hateful bigots."

" I see no evidence that you or slacker are Christians"

Thats not surprising, You can't even see that your freedom is being taken from you by liars and propagandists elected to the highest offices of America through the efforts of completely brainwashed morons. Those great thinkers that can't even grasp the obvious truth that as we loose our freedom they also lose theirs. Every diabolical ploy that robs someone of their rights and freedom also robs everyone else of the same rights and freedoms, including those who are supporting and cheering on such traitors.

So I presume that your assessment is based on our denial of the false propaganda from Pravda that you so readily gobble up. The truth is that Christians see the operatives of the left stealing the rights and liberty from the American Citizen and replacing that with Godless Marxist/ Socialist/ Communist totalitarian rule where every man is a slave to the ideals of the few. Right? Christians believe in what God has to say, we do not believe the delusional teachings of men.

They will forbid freedom of speech. They will forbid freedom to own property. They will limit your food. They will limit your energy usage. They will tell you how many times you can bathe. They will tell you what you must eat. They will tell you what you can or can not think. They will tell you where you can go or where you are not allowed to go. They will tell you if you can or can not own a car, how much you must pay for its use and how many times you can drive it. They will tell you where or where you can not live. The list is endless, but take a good look at Korea or China, those are the regimes these people admire. Oh, that's right. They are already doing some of these things if not most of them. What has not yet been revealed are future implementations of legislation already written.

We deny the fallacies that you hold so dear such as the climate change scam, the regimes taking rule over the rights of Christians, the amoeba morphing into a man Darwin fallacies, the moronic position that man is righteous apart from God, that abortion is not murder, that perversion is normal and should be embraced by all, and all of the rest of the crap liberal folks gobble up at the feeding trough. Is that what makes someone "not a Christian"? If so, then true. Does it anger you when a man calls a man who practices Jihad a Jihadist? When we call a liar a liar, does that offend you? If men follow Adolph Hitlers Mein Kampf and implement its methods for taking over a population is it wrong to refer to them as a Nazis? If a man molests a child is it wrong to refer to him as a child molester? If a man acts in a perverted fashion, is it wrong to call that man a pervert? If that is what you hate, then truth is your true enemy.

Few of us buy into the lies and propaganda of this regime. Will you be happy when the Bible is burned, if Christianity is removed from the earth? Would that free up the carnal sick and twisted desires of man and make them acceptable?

You have done as much or more name calling than many on this forum. I didn't see where Christians resorted to calling you names.

I'm thinking about getting a sandwich sign painted. It will say:

"Repent jimmy, the end is near. " :) :)

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