General Chat (Non-Music-Related)

ok, at this point most sane folks are willing to accept obama:

is not a card carrying secret muslim

has not enpowered any death panels

is in fact a U.S. citizen

then again as we all know....of course, he IS the anti - christ (goes w/o saying), but can we all stop whining about his overuse of Exec Orders?

fear not....there will ALWAYS be other things (real and fabricated) to skewer him over. myself...i think he relies on his outside jumper waaaay too much and he doesn't go strong to the hoop often enough. whatta dipshit!

You just don't get it Mark, it is his ILLEGAL/unconstitutional use of Executive order that has everyone in such an uproar! Geez

i don't "get" it?

jeff, i think you might be "getting" things that aren't there, but instead have been spoon fed to you by the well oiled conservative propaganda machine. (they serve it up....and the "eaters" are ready to consume cos mmmm, mmmm, it's good to the last drop!)

despite your recurring comments about how i should be a lawyer.. . i am not. so please cite what LAWS you state for unquestionable fact that you believe he's broken.

You just don't get it Mark, it is his ILLEGAL/unconstitutional use of Executive order that has everyone in such an uproar! Geez

"everyone" ???

news of "everyone's" uproar has been greatly exaggerated. but fear not.....keep repeating it enough and statistics show that the number WILL grow! by golly... that's how propaganda works.

i don't "get" it?

jeff, i think you might be "getting" things that aren't there, but instead have been spoon fed to you by the well oiled conservative propaganda machine. (they serve it up....and the "eaters" are ready to consume cos mmmm, mmmm, it's good to the last drop!)

despite your recurring comments about how i should be a lawyer.. . i am not. so please cite what LAWS you state for unquestionable fact that you believe he's broken.

Mark, your play on words, "well oiled" is laughable! Your words are bait and switch. You really should stop being such a blind hypocrite and pull your head out of your colon! Really bro PALEEZE read what you just wrote because that applies to you.
Like I said before 0 Definately does not need the likes of you running to his defense! I thought you were gonna leave us to our sandbox? What happened? Perhaps your just bored? Hard not working a real job Huh?

The supreme court has ruled Obama's actions unconstitutional 14 times. That's not republican political rhetoric.

It's not the number of executive orders that is the problem, it is the quality of them. The one most widely known is his "executive action" to allow millions of illegal immigrants amnesty. Many of his executive orders are dubious at best, and seem to be designed to give the president more and more power. This is not new, former presidents have grabbed more power but Obama has completely gone overboard with it.

Here is a list of 25 of his violations of law. Some by executive order some not. But all blatant disregard for the law.

https://www.committeeforjustice.org/con ... nistration

Planet Guy ... you are really stretching it with this one ... you should stick to Jazz and what you do well. I can only assume that you are naive and not aware of all that has been going on even before Obama as he is merely continuing the "Bush" administrations policies and yes that includes Hillary as well.

I am going to refrain from this as I am in a "comfortable" space with you and prefer to keep it that way. Good luck to you.

i don't "get" it?

jeff, i think you might be "getting" things that aren't there, but instead have been spoon fed to you by the well oiled conservative propaganda machine. (they serve it up....and the "eaters" are ready to consume cos mmmm, mmmm, it's good to the last drop!)

despite your recurring comments about how i should be a lawyer.. . i am not. so please cite what LAWS you state for unquestionable fact that you believe he's broken.

Mark, your play on words, "well oiled" is laughable! Your words are bait and switch. You really should stop being such a blind hypocrite and pull your head out of your colon! Really bro PALEEZE read what you just wrote because that applies to you.
Like I said before 0 Definately does not need the likes of you running to his defense! I thought you were gonna leave us to our sandbox? What happened? Perhaps your just bored? Hard not working a real job Huh?

"sandbox"? litterbox is more like it. and Jeff, it's YOUR hypocrisy and bait and switch tactics that reek.

i asked you a simple question that was EXACTLY on point and relevant to the conversation....

you: You just don't get it Mark, it is his ILLEGAL/unconstitutional use of Executive order that has everyone in such an uproar

me: please cite what LAWS you state for unquestionable fact that you believe he's broken.

and how do you respond? name calling, insults, and cracks about how i make a living! did you answer the question i put to you? NO. instead you go into no holds barred assault mode and hope no one notices that it's YOU who's played the bait and switch game because you couldn't answer the perfectly relevant question i asked you .

so......distract w a personal attack and stall for a while until some of your sandbox/litterbox buddies can bail you out.

and jeff, that's exactly what happens EVERY time your view from the sandbox is questioned. out come the claws. vamp is guilty of that same gambit though he uses more sophisticated weaponry (such as condescension: "stick to jazz") to defend his part of the sandbox.

playing in the sandbox.... an apt metaphor indeed.

i don't "get" it?

jeff, i think you might be "getting" things that aren't there, but instead have been spoon fed to you by the well oiled conservative propaganda machine. (they serve it up....and the "eaters" are ready to consume cos mmmm, mmmm, it's good to the last drop!)

despite your recurring comments about how i should be a lawyer.. . i am not. so please cite what LAWS you state for unquestionable fact that you believe he's broken.

Mark, your play on words, "well oiled" is laughable! Your words are bait and switch. You really should stop being such a blind hypocrite and pull your head out of your colon! Really bro PALEEZE read what you just wrote because that applies to you.
Like I said before 0 Definately does not need the likes of you running to his defense! I thought you were gonna leave us to our sandbox? What happened? Perhaps your just bored? Hard not working a real job Huh?

"sandbox"? litterbox is more like it. and Jeff, it's YOUR hypocrisy and bait and switch tactics that reek.

i asked you a simple question that was EXACTLY on point and relevant to the conversation....

you: You just don't get it Mark, it is his ILLEGAL/unconstitutional use of Executive order that has everyone in such an uproar

me: please cite what LAWS you state for unquestionable fact that you believe he's broken.

and how do you respond? name calling, insults, and cracks about how i make a living! did you answer the question i put to you? NO. instead you go into no holds barred assault mode and hope no one notices that it's YOU who's played the bait and switch game because you couldn't answer the perfectly relevant question i asked you .

so......distract w a personal attack and stall for a while until some of your sandbox/litterbox buddies can bail you out.

and jeff, that's exactly what happens EVERY time your view from the sandbox is questioned. out come the claws. vamp is guilty of that same gambit though he uses more sophisticated weaponry (such as condescension: "stick to jazz") to defend his part of the sandbox.

playing in the sandbox.... an apt metaphor indeed.

Mark, please read Billy's (Paleopete) post it explains and I just don't feel like typing the obvious that a man with your intellect should already be aware of! The fact that you have the gall to come running to the defense of a man that has outright lied in just about every action he has taken speaks volumes about your character or are you just so drunk with Obamanomics that you are in denial! Like I said Please remove your head from your colon because that is how far it is stuck up there brother! One more question, do you have Obamacare insurance? Or are you like a Congressman that has BETTER health insurance?
Mark, you are a great musician and have a superior knowledge of music. As you once stated we would probably be friends if we didn't talk politics?

Mark, please read Billy's (Paleopete) post it explains and I just don't feel like typing the obvious that a man with your intellect should already be aware of!

well, at this point there's no need to retype how Billy replied to the question that i put to you.

but... it would have been appropriate to answer earlier when i asked you. instead you replied to my question w personal attacks and NOT answering the question.

The fact that you have the gall to come running to the defense of a man that has outright lied in just about every action he has taken speaks volumes about your character or are you just so drunk with Obamanomics that you are in denial!

says the man "who has the gall" to defend that ninny, quitter, and self serving sarah palin looney tune who deserted her post mid watch to cash in on her celebrity to make a buck???

so, what does that say about YOUR "character"? glass houses, buddy. glass houses.

and please stop confusing your opinions w facts and presenting them as such. ("O's lied in every action"). stating your opinions as facts does not make them facts.

Like I said Please remove your head from your colon because that is how far it is stuck up there brother! One more question, do you have Obamacare insurance? Or are you like a Congressman that has BETTER health insurance?

LOL! isn't this right about where YOU'D accuse ME of "changing the topic" with "bait and switch tactics"???? how is it you never acknowledge the hypocrisy of that??? nah, you love trotting that little gem out again and again as you do the very same thing you accuse dems/libs of!

but i'll answer your question. and i'll do it w/o insults, calling you names, or snarky comments about how YOU make a living. (exactly how Billy did when he answered the question i put to you above that you COULDN'T answer)

unlike too many in this great land of prosperity that we call home, i'm lucky enough to be able to AFFORD health care insurance that i'm satisfied w. no need to change horses midstream

Mark, you are a great musician and have a superior knowledge of music. As you once stated we would probably be friends if we didn't talk politics?

and i still believe that.

but the problem as i see it, is that i can discuss politics w someone who has different views w/o feeling (and behaving) like i am being personally attacked. you, on the other hand....well, not so much so. when someone has the gall to express a different view that challenges your's...BAM into personal attack mode you go.

Mark, I think WE are both guilty of the insulting tactics. I'll work on it from my end how's that? In spite of our political differences I think you're an okay guy, and very knowledgeable musician. Yeah that was a low blow about your work. I still respect you believe it or not.

Mark, I think WE are both guilty of the insulting tactics. I'll work on it from my end how's that? In spite of our political differences I think you're an okay guy, and very knowledgeable musician. Yeah that was a low blow about your work. I still respect you believe it or not.

I can't help it I gotta tell ya sometimes I just like to read your paraphrases

Mark you are full of conundrums. Your head is full lies that you believe are the truth.

Just to make a point, you are living in the land of the brave and the free. For some reason you don't like it.

Then get the F out. Tina Turner did it. She is living in Switzerland.

This is an open note to all... If you don't like our Christian/Judea values... You have a real problem.

Well said Mr. Haley!

Talbot

Mark you are full of conundrums. Your head is full lies that you believe are the truth.

Just to make a point, you are living in the land of the brave and the free. For some reason you don't like it.

Then get the F out. Tina Turner did it. She is living in Switzerland.

This is an open note to all... If you don't like our Christian/Judea values... You have a real problem.

the fathers of the Constitution mentioned no allegiance to Judeo-Christian values, in fact, they wanted a separate division of the secular from the idea of a certain kind of worship.. who in their right mind would want the state and religion lumped into one society?..we escaped from England to get away from Puritanical and Calvinist warring with each other and The Church Of England.. religion and politics don't mix well at all..