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I as a tax paying citizen and conservative am highly frustrated with this presidents lawlessness and utter refusal to listen to or deal with the other side of the isle.

riiiiiiiight. it's OBAMA who's refused to work w those on the other side of the aisle!!!! because THEY never had any inclination of obstructing his every move!

before Obama even took office, the republicans, right-wing talking heads, and conservative talk show yahoos were calling for total obstruction of every facet of obama's agenda. instead of trying to work with him (for the good of the american people), their stated goal was to insure a one term presidency.

but somehow you can sit there and SPIN and TWIST it that it's OBAMA who "refuses to work w those on the other side of the aisle"????? amazing!

this is exactly the same (or worse) TWISTING OF TRUTH and SPINNING THINGS that you routinely and offhandedly toss off accusations about.
but you can't or won't see the irony of that! YOU employ that very same tactic that you bitch about. sorry, jeff.....that's ironic and hypocritical as i see it.

I'm angry as hell and frustrated and there's not a damn thing I can do to talk common sense to folks that refuse to see the truth.

"the TRUTH"??? the truth is that you toss around terms like "brainwashed", but in your narrow field of vision, close mindedness, and your need to "win"....YOU'VE fallen victim to brainwashing. you hear a distorted "fact" or an OPINION repeated again and again...and it becomes a "fact" or the "truth". and then you pick up the ball and run with it. like a good brainwashed victim should.

you accuse others of twisting the facts, but never once entertain or accept any culpability for doing the very same!

Coupled with the fact that the media REFUSES to report the factual news about this man.

more bullshit spin from the right. and since that song has been played more often than the latest Nascar Pop Top Ten Hit of The Week.....you swallow it hook, line, and stinker.

I know you are going to spin this and twist it to fit the liberal lies that some folks have been brain washed into believing.

thanks for proving my point. yeah...cos it's only the LEFTIES who spin and twist things. sad thing is...i think you might actually believe that horseshit you've been fed! and now you take it up as your war cry. no irony here folks...let's all move along.

standing by for your reply that either accuses ME of twisting things.... or the inevitable and predictable blowup and attack that calls me a fag. maybe both?

Thank you for your post PG but He has tied his illegal, law breaking executive amnesty to the recent homeland security budget in an attempt to force the right to pass it. Well it appears congress (at least for now) is going to block this attempt! Now he is back to his old trick of stating the sky is going to fall if this doesn't get passed. Your attempt at covering for this lawless POTUS is seriously laughable. I don't understand how you can continue, do you understand how foolish you look?

Don't let those pesky facts get in the way of your political rhetoric...

Like the fact that Obama promised after the Nov 2014 elections he wanted to "Work with Republicans" then immediately started poking them in the side with a sharp stick by declaring an unconstitutional amnesty for illegal immigrants. And no I won't call them undocumented. Illegal is the proper word.

Like when he then promised to veto the Keystone Pipeline bill, supported by BOTH parties at least to some extent. Knowing it would start yet another political fight. And knowing public opinion is largely in favor of it. But when has he listened to the people?

Like now, with Democrats in the Senate blocking the current DHS budget from getting a vote, and Obama refuses to tell them to just do their job, instead letting them play political games...and of course if DHS gets shut down he'll be the first to blame it on Republicans, when his cohorts actually did it. That's standard procedure, blame someone else. When they complain, call them racist. He should be telling congress to stop playing politics and do their job. Not a chance, they're doing exactly what he wants.

Like the fact that he still refuses to even think about securing our borders, when plenty evidence has shown that illegal immigrants and suspected Islamic radicals are known to be crossing our southern border. Prayer rugs and copies of the Koran were found at the US Mexico border last summer, along with a laptop containing Arabic files including some related to biological warfare. And the Constitution is apparently just another sheet of paper for him to ignore. So far just this year 20,000 illegal immigrants have crossed our border, according to Texas Governor Greg Abbott. Obama wants to let more in and refuses to do a thing about it, even allowing his Attorney General to sue at least two states for trying to enforce existing immigration laws. So now Texas is doing it themselves, and it's coming out of Texas taxpayers' pockets, while the US Government SHOULD be securing our border. They get the money for it already...so those of us in Texas are paying taxes twice to secure our border, and it isn't being done...border patrol has now been told to let drunk illegal immigrant drivers drive away.

But don't let those pesky facts get in the way of telling people how wrong they are to be angry or irritated that the President of this country has consistently acted illegally and unconstitutionally and is not doing a thing to try and actually do what he swore he would do in his oath of office...faithfully execute the laws and uphold the Constitution. The Supreme Court has ruled his actions unconstitutional at least 14 times.

You don't hear about this on the mainstream news, they only tell you what the government wants you to know, and that's been a known fact for a long time. No I didn't get that from some conservative blog, I saw it myself long ago. I watched the Clinton impeachment hearings then saw what was actually reported on the so called news. I watched while Harry Reid shut the government down in 2013 by blocking the budget bill passed by the House, then saw it blamed on Republicans in general and Ted Cruz in particular. Cruz is a Senator, he never got a chance to even debate the budget bill, much less vote on it, so how could he have shut the government down? That pesky fact didn't deter the people on CNN or any of the other mainstream "news" channels, they glibly blamed it on Cruz expecting us to simply believe it because they are "the news"...yeah right...

You don't know it because you're not being told the truth, but it's incredibly obvious Obama and his cronies are the ones obstructing progress. The Republican led House passed just over 380 bills by last December, Harry Reid blocked every single one. And the Republicans are the obstructionists? Right now they are the ones stopping a vote on the DHS bill, sitting in the Senate waiting for them to stop playing politics and do their job, but Democrats continue to filibuster...and Republicans are the obstructionists? Republicans won't work with him? Sorry, it's the other way around, he's lying to you and you won't do a little fact checking and find out for yourself. Find me one instance, just one, where Obama accepted responsibility for his actions and didn't blame someone else. Just one...

This is why this country is going to hell in a handbasket. Too many people simply believe what they are told without bothering to dig a little deeper and check into the actual facts. Don't take my word for it, look it up. I did.

" Like the fact that Obama promised after the Nov 2014 elections he wanted to "Work with Republicans" then immediately started poking them in the side with a sharp stick by declaring an unconstitutional amnesty for illegal immigrants. And no I won't call them undocumented. Illegal is the proper word."

May I make a suggestion? Don't call them immigrants either. They have not one single inclination or thought of immigrating into the American society. They want it all for free. They want their own businesses and cities that speak only their languages. The have their own bars in my area where "whitey" is prohibited from entering through threat of violence. The English language is not tolerated in their company. They have used car lots until hell freezes over. All the store fronts are printed in foreign language. You are not welcome in those places either. You are an unwelcome stranger in your own land.

This is Neo America. These are not immigrants, they are illegal aliens storming our country by force under the illegal authority of the head tyrant.

With Net Neutrality on the horizon I am sure that you had better speak your mind while you still can, or learn to give your opinion in a foreign language.

I don't understand how you can continue, do you understand how foolish you look?

jeff, i imagine i look as "foolish" to those who share your views as YOU do to those who share mine.

No Mark you look foolish to EVERYONE with any amount of common sense! What about the FACT that your POTUS just veto'd the Keystone pipeline. He did this strictly out of politics not for the good of the country. The Safest way to move crude is via pipeline period. Fact, his rich liberal buddies make billions shipping it via rail car one of the most dangerous ways. He wants the moronic greenie's to support him and he helps his rich buddies! You refuse to admit he is the WORST president since Jimmy Carter. He has put us 16 trillion in debt. Your side is the epitome of insanity! Keep doing the same thing and expecting different results! I got news for you son. The country is onto him you liberals are toast come 2016. You and your liberal side of the isle!

Great post Mr Haley... You just said more that has truth in a few words.

You are one GREAT PERSON!

Many should just stick to talking about tuning a guitar.

jeff, i have no desire to try to educate those who take such immense pride in their ignorance and wear it like a badge.

but the next time you wanna talk about anyone looking foolish (i know you'll never figure the big important things but maybe you can start small).....well, maybe i can help ya out just a little bit. for instance.....

You and your liberal side of the isle!

wait a sec.....libs and neo cons have their own lil' isle???? hmmmm, is there an aisle that runs down the center of it???

in case that's too confusing.... let's break it down further:

an aisle seperates two groups of seats.

the word isle that you continually misuse is a small island.

no need for thanks.....just one lib trying to help a conservative look less foolish.

Oh my do we have a spelling NAZI again? Nothing to do with the topic, just a personal attack because we have a president that is destroying the sensibility of capitalization.

That one went way over someone's head.

Mark, you can believe whatever you want to. I won't waste another minute on the topic. I don't mind debating some stuff now and then, but this is why I don't bring this garbage up at family gatherings, where I'm outnumbered at least 10-1.