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#237529 by Badstrat
Fri Nov 14, 2014 4:49 pm
How about all the almost daily flurry of reports of "mass hackings" by the Chinese? Remember all the headlines of gun violence that took over the news daily when they were trying to pass broad gun control laws? Is this the same thing, a ploy to show how important it is for the government to take control of the Internet to protect you from ID theft? I believe it is. I believe the government plan is to generate fear among internet users so that they can give us internet protection. But what is in the plan that they like to keep quiet? Could it be the ability of the government to censor all negativity and exposure of the Government. Isn't there a new report almost daily about some organization being hacked? Isn't that a fear tactic to scare you into asking the government to step in and protect your identity? Why not? That is how they attempted to pass gun legislation. Does a Zebra change its stripes?

I began a search of hidden agendas in the "net Neutrality" proposal. I found this to be interesting Another conspiracy theory? A conspiracy theory like the government monitoring and saving all your phone calls and e-mails? How long ago was that simply a conspiracy theory? First they created a need for some program. Then they pass it and your rights disappear. I'm sure that nothing like that has never happened before, right? So if this article is crap then go ahead and believe that. But it is worth considering, knowing how power crazed and ruthless our politicians have become on both sides.

http://www.naturalnews.com/030647_wikil ... ality.html

NaturalNews) Regardless of what you think about the Wikileaks release of state secrets, there's no debating the astonishing fact that the internet made these leaks possible. Without the internet, no single organization such as Wikileaks would have been able to so widely propagate secret government information and make it public. In the old model of information distribution -- centralized mainstream media newspapers and news broadcasts -- such information would have been tightly controlled thanks to government pressure.

But the internet allows individual information publishers to bypass the censorship of government. In the case of Wikileaks, it allowed an Australian citizen to embarrass the U.S. government while sitting at a laptop computer in the United Kingdom.

Governments don't like to be embarrassed. They don't like their secrets aired on the internet. Sure, it's okay for governments to tap all of your secrets by monitoring your phone calls, emails and web browsing habits, but every government seeks to protect its own secrets at practically any cost. That's why the upshot of this Wikileaks release may be that governments will now start to look for new ways to censor and control the internet in order to prevent such information leaks from happening in the future.

What governments around the world are suddenly beginning to realize is that a free internet is ultimately incompatible with government secrets, and secrets are essential to any government that wants to remain in power. That's because, as even Noam Chomsky stated in this DemocracyNow video interview (http://www.democracynow.org/2010/11/30/noam_...), most government secrets are based on information governments wouldn't want their people to discover -- secrets that might threaten the legitimacy of government if the people found out the truth.

How the FCC plans to seize authority over the internet
As part of a long-term plan to control content on the internet, the FCC is now attempting to assert authority over the internet in the same way it has long exercised content censorship authority over broadcast television and radio.

The reason you can't say those seven dirty words on broadcast television, in other words, is because the FCC controls broadcast television content and can simply revoke the broadcast licenses of any television station that refuses to comply. This is the same tactic, in the internet world, of yanking a web site's domain name, which the Department of Homeland Security has already begun doing over the last several weeks (http://www.naturalnews.com/030542_censorship...).

The FCC also controls content on the radio and can yank the broadcast licenses of any radio stations that refuse to comply with its content censorship. This is why operators of "pirate radio stations" are dealt with so harshly: For the government to allow any radio station to operate outside its censorship and control is to invite dissent.

The internet, of course, has been operating freely and without any real government censorship for roughly two decades. In that time, it has grown to be what is arguably the most influential medium in the world for information distribution. Most importantly, the internet is the medium of information freedom that is not controlled by any government.

The U.S. government wants to change all that, and they've dispatched the FCC to reign in the "freedoms" of the internet.

How to crush internet Free Speech
The first step to the FCC's crushing of internet freedom is to assert authority over the internet by claiming to run the show. The FCC, of course, has no legal authority over the internet. It was only granted authority in 1934 over broadcast communications in the electromagnetic spectrum -- you know, radio waves and antennas, that kind of thing.

There is nothing in the Communications Act of 1934 that grants the FCC any authority over the internet because obviously the internet didn't exist then, and it would have been impossible for lawmakers in the 1930's to imagine the internet as it operates today.

So instead of following the law, the FCC is trying to "fake" its way into false authority over the internet by claiming authority in the current "net neutrality" debate. By asserting its authority with net neutrality, the FCC will establish a beachhead of implied authority from which it can begin to control and censor the internet.

This is why "net neutrality" is a threat to internet freedom. It's not because of anything to do with net neutrality itself, but rather with the FCC's big power grab in its assertion that it has authority over websites just like it has authority over broadcast radio.

The FCC may soon tell you what you can post on the internet
Where is this all heading? Once the FCC establishes a foothold on the 'net, it can then assert that it has the power to tell you what to post on the internet. Here's how it might unfold:

First, the FCC will simply ban what it calls "information traitors," which will include people like Julian Assange (Wikileaks) who publish state secrets. (Technically Julian Assange can't be a traitor since he's not even American in the first place, but don't expect the FCC to care about this distinction.)

Once the public is comfortable with that, the FCC will advance its agenda to include "information terrorists" which will include anything posted about Ron Paul, the federal reserve and the counterfeit money supply, G. Edward Griffin, or anything from true U.S. patriots who defend the Constitution. The anti-state website www.LewRockwell.com (where some of my own articles have appeared from time to time) would also be immediately banned because its information is so dangerous to government control.

After that censorship is in place, the FCC will likely begin to push the corporate agenda by banning websites that harm the profits of large corporations. This will include, of course, websites like NaturalNews.com which teach people about health freedom, nutritional cures, natural remedies and alternatives to Big Pharma's high-profit pharmaceuticals.

The way this will come about is that the FCC may require a license to publish health information on the web, in much the same way that states currently license doctors to practice medicine. This is how conventional medicine has operated its monopoly for so long, by the way: By controlling the licensing of doctors at the state level. Any doctor who dares prescribe nutritional supplements or suggest that medication might be harmful to a patient immediately gets stripped of his license to practice medicine (and thereby put out of business). The FCC will likely do the same thing across the internet. Sites that publish health information without a license will be deemed "a threat to public health" and be seized by the government.

The first target? Anti-vaccine websites. Vaccines are so crucial to the continuation of disease and medical enslavement in America that any site questioning the current vaccine mythology will be deemed a threat to public health -- or perhaps even a "terrorism" organization.

Essentially, once the FCC has gained power and authority over the internet, it will use that power to push a Big Government / Big Business agenda that censors the truth, keeps people trapped in a system of disinformation, and silences anyone who challenges the status quo.

The FCC is poised to become the FDA of internet information, banning alternative speech and enforcing an information monopoly engineered by powerful corporations.

Think of the FCC as the new the Ministry of Truth from George Orwell's novel 1984 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Tru...).

This is not about net neutrality, it's about the FCC power grab
Remember, I am not arguing here for or against the principle of net neutrality itself, but rather warning about the FCC's imposition of false authority over the internet in the first place. The idea of net neutrality has merits, but granting the FCC the power to control the internet is a disastrously bad idea that will only end in censorship and "information tyranny" -- especially now that governments around the world are witnessing the "dangers" of information freedom via the Wikileaks fiasco.

If there's one thing governments hate, it's real freedom. Sure, they all talk about freedom and publicly claim their allegiance to it, but behind the scenes what they really want is total information control. That's because freedom gives people the ability to say what they want, to whomever they want, and even to oppose the doctrine of the government.

Just look at China and how it has censored the internet to the point where you can't even log in to Facebook from that country.

Governments hate freedom because freedom threatens centralized power and control over the People. And because governments hate freedom, they also hate the internet as long as it's free. This is why bloggers and internet journalists are right now imprisoned all over the world for merely posting the truth (http://www.cpj.org/imprisoned/cpjs-2008-cens...).

As Noam Chomsky said in his DemocracyNow interview (link above), what the recent Wikileaks releases really show is that the U.S. government has "a profound hatred for democracy."

It also happens to have a profound hatred for actual freedom, because people who are free to think for themselves and write whatever they want are always going to be a threat to a government that wants people to conform, obey and acquiesce.

All government agencies seek to expand their power
What do the FCC, FDA, TSA, DEA, FTC and USDA all have in common?

They all want more power. They want more authority, bigger budgets and more control over the world around them. They are like cancer tumors, growing in size and toxicity while they consume more and more by stealing resources from a healthy host. The bigger these cancer tumors become, the more dangerous they become to the health of the host body, and the more urgently they need to be held in check or excised from the body entirely.

There is no such thing as a government agency that wants to be smaller, with shrinking budgets and fewer employees on the taxpayer payroll. Government departments -- just like people -- incessantly seek more power even at the expense of freedom among those they claim to serve. And this move by the FCC to assume control over the internet is one of the most dangerous power grabs yet witnessed in the short history of the information age.

By the way, one of the reasons we created and launched www.NaturalNews.TV was because we wanted a video site that could not be turned off by YouTube. You've probably heard the horror stories of famous content producers like Alex Jones having their YouTube accounts suddenly terminated. NaturalNews.TV is a safe haven for alternative health content that cannot be turned off by a large corporation that doesn't recognize the value of health freedom.

Feel free to participate by uploading videos or viewing the many thousands of free videos available right now at www.NaturalNews.TV

By the way, I recommend reading another outstanding article on this topic written by John Naughton at The Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifa...). Here's a taste of what he writes:

Consider, for instance, how the views of the US administration have changed in just a year. On 21 January, secretary of state Hillary Clinton made a landmark speech about internet freedom, in Washington DC, which many people welcomed and most interpreted as a rebuke to China for its alleged cyberattack on Google. "Information has never been so free," declared Clinton. "Even in authoritarian countries, information networks are helping people discover new facts and making governments more accountable."

She went on to relate how, during his visit to China in November 2009, Barack Obama had "defended the right of people to freely access information, and said that the more freely information flows the stronger societies become. He spoke about how access to information helps citizens to hold their governments accountable, generates new ideas, and encourages creativity." Given what we now know, that Clinton speech reads like a satirical masterpiece.
#237551 by schmedidiah
Sat Nov 15, 2014 9:10 pm
I can just hear Schwarzenegger telling the ATF agents "You touch my guns and you're toast.". :P
#237562 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Mon Nov 17, 2014 5:20 pm
Don't you love how politicians give nice sounding names to the opposite of what they plan to do? The government is anything but neutral, and has become more partisan with every election.

Besides that, I'm sure that Christian Coalition is "against" it, so I don't know where that info comes from...

But basically it gives the government/FCC power over who gets to use the internet, when/where. It would allow them to completely shut down the internet down nationally or regionally, by any excuse and without oversight.

If we give this power to them, then any politician can shut down political protests (like they do in Iran) with the lamest of lies about "national security". Only a fool believes that politicians wouldn't abuse this to win an election, if they thought they could.

Some might not see a problem with that but what if there arises a President who decides to become Dictator? The moment people respond to his/her illegal actions, he/she could shut down the internet access of his political/civil opponents and we are no longer connected as a nation.

I don't trust the government to look out for anyone but politicians, and neither should any of us. The internet seems to doing just fine without their grubby little hands in it.

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#237571 by schmedidiah
Tue Nov 18, 2014 1:47 pm
Nigel, you're a great guy, but I would never tell Europeans what to do. So why do you tell us to support this b.s.? We don't trust Obama. The media tries to cover for him, as much as they can, but we're on to his power grabs and scheming ways. Ever since he showed up on the national scene in 2004, I've known that if you want to know what he's really talking about, just invert what he's saying. Yod hit it on the head. This is not about "neutrality", freedom, choice, consumer protection...... it's all about him. And his kooky friends. I'm sorry if you can't afford high speed internet, but don't make the whole country stoop down to dial up, just because you're for "equality". That's what we're talking about. More Obamunism. :roll:
#237581 by Badstrat
Tue Nov 18, 2014 7:32 pm
"I simply posted some facts about the issue. "

No Nigel, no offense meant but what you really posted is propaganda for the gullible, not facts. You don't get the facts from this government. They make sure that the media and gov spokesmen only spread lies and propaganda. All dictators lie and spew propaganda, that is a necessity for control over the masses.

Here is what it really is about.

It Only Takes Two Minutes for Ted Cruz to Explain Why He’s Against Net Neutrality
Nov. 18, 2014 12:25pm Jon Street

The term “net neutrality” has been flying around a lot lately. Not surprisingly, it can be a confusing topic. Luckily for opponents of the idea, Ted Cruz has released a two-minute video explaining why he and others are against it.

The administration has made its support for net neutrality increasingly clear in recent days as Obama called for the Internet to be regulated as a public utility just like water or electricity. Doing so would allow the Federal Communication Commission to oversee Internet accessibility for all consumers, without any so-called “fast lanes” for Internet service providers to give preferential treatment to higher-paying customers.

“The worse thing that could happen is letting a whole bunch of politicians come in and regulate every aspect of what you’re doing,” Cruz said.

The reason the Internet has had the dynamism, opportunity, freedom and diversity it’s had, he added, is because the government hasn’t “plagued” it with many regulations.

“The innovation is happening without having to go to government and say ‘Mother, may I?’ What happens when the government starts regulating a service as a public utility is it calcifies everything and freezes it in place,” the Texas Republican said.

“The last thing you want is for five unelected bureaucrats in Washington to take charge of regulating the Internet as a public utility,” he concluded.
#237585 by MikeTalbot
Tue Nov 18, 2014 10:45 pm
Nigel

If you really want to understand US politics here are the hard facts.

A) You are quite right about the Republican Party - utterly sucks, works with the oppresses - whole platform is a damnable lie. (In power eight years - created a third of the debt we're now saddled with, created police state apparatus both parties now use to 'keep order in the homeland.' pretending to love the poor and unemployed they've failed too even try to deter illegal aliens who will insure our unemployed remain that way. All the while calling for more visas for tech workers - and nobody knows an unemployed tech worker right?)

B) You seem to have missed the Democratic Party - utterly sucks, works with the oppressor - whole platform is a damnable lie (they've been in power now six years - destroyed economy, utilized police state apparatus, pretending to love the poor and unemployed they've opened to flood gates to illegal aliens who will insure our unemployed remain that way. There sacrament is abortion)

C) Add in our uniparty media conglomerate (TV, Newspapers, Radio) Claim to be journalists but I think we know better.

Those are three of the four prongs of our political descent into police state hell - the fourth of course are the banksters - many of whom are the same people in the upper hierarchies of the 'two' parties.

There is no creditable opposition party in the USA. That sh*t is over.

Yeah - not so very simple my friend but it adds up to this: we're f**k.

Talbot
#237587 by Badstrat
Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:05 am
Nigel,

Are you truly so naive to assume that the Kochs' are behind net neutrality? Or was that supposed to indicate that you are so wise that you assume that I am a repubucan? Don't be so eager to jump upon the soapbox of a fool. Your last post appears more thought out. Everything these tyrants and traitors are doing follow the plan of every successful dictator on this earth. Most every one of them used the very same tactics as these, and one of their tactics is getting us to pit one against another as opposed to addressing the topic. They train each of us to turn everything political so it will turn to an argument and the truth shall disappear and be forgotten during the scuffle.
After the masses hear only our Pravda, the next thing is to suppress truth on the Internet. And the truth that comes out on talk radio. They need to control that so there will be only one point of view expressed to the people they are attempting to conquer. If it wasn't for free internet and talk radio the other side would never be heard. Only what they want you to hear would be heard throughout. They need that to happen. They need some of us to simply disappear during the dead of night. They want our guns, they want our ears and they want our eyes. They want our lives. First they knock on our doors to register our guns. Then they knock on our doors to take our guns. Then they no longer knock on our doors This is what this is about.

It is about power crazed individuals attempting to climb to the top of the world over the bodies of those who love freedom. That is what some believe. But more than that, some of us see it as it is, it is rooted in spiritual warfare. That is what the servant and believer of God would believe.

However this post is about what those in power wish to do by grabbing power over the internet in order to silence all who speak out against them and against those who leak the truth that they are so desperately trying to hide. Sometimes politicians leak the evil deeds of other politicians. Sometimes it is simply leaked by citizens in the position of knowing something that those in power are attempting to keep from those who have put their trust in them. But the truth when revealed is only spread over media that they do not control. When they have control of that, no one will know when you dissappear in the dead of night never to be seen again, as it is in so many other countries run by the power crazed.

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