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#23543 by gbheil
Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:04 am
The Chinese often kill drug dealers on site no trial! They still have a drug problem. You cant stop stupid people from doing stupid sh*t if they really want to. Sad really.

#23544 by Guitaranatomy
Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:04 am
Lmao. That is entirely illogical, Felicity. Think about what you said, if they make it legal it what would the gangs do? Sure, they would just sell it to the kids who are not old enough to pass carding at the drugs stores! Ding, ding, ding!

Man, I am not trying to insult you, but come on, you should know better than that. Making them legal will just f*cking kill us all, people will be high all of the time. It will not slow the process down, it will make it progress even faster. More and more people will drop the Hell dead, and you will have drivers driving around high. You think the police have trouble dealing with drunks? Try legalizing drugs and see how the cops feel, see how many innocent people die because these people get in their cars and drive with their systems full of drugs.

It is useless to legalize it, it will only make matters worse.

It should be illegal, period.

Peace out, GuitarAnatomy.

#23547 by Irminsul
Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:10 am
There's a happy medium in there somewhere (no, not that lady with a smile on her face and tarot cards in her hands..).

Some drugs should be legalized. Pot is the big one. It is less dangerous and addictive than alcohol yet people are in prison for it. Beyond stupid. But heroin? That one is bad news. You have to keep a chain on some things, but make sure you pick wisely what they are.

I had a flirtation with anarchy too. But when you move it off the written page and try to use it anywhere outside of a few very small, tight-knit societies like the ashram, it just doesn't work.

#23551 by Felicity Chicane
Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:14 am
Wow, I think I give up, how do you fail to see the logic behind that? Let me try one more time. If they sold drugs at a drug store THERE WOULD BE NO CHILDREN BEING KILLED OVER DRUGS. THERE WOULD BE NO NEED TO, YOU CAN LEGALLY BUY THEM AND THE CLERK WILL NOT KILL YOU. does the clerk at the packy kill its customers? Are people out on the street killing each other to rob them for their booze?

And I already know what your response to that is goint to be "ya but people are going to die from the drugs" Yes I know that they are so let them they are dumb asses, the fact still remains that they are going to do drugs whether they a legal or not, if anything, being illegal gives them initiative to do drugs because it becomes the forbidden fruit.

#23553 by gbheil
Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:16 am
I totally understand your point GA. But I think the "driving around" problem is an inforcement problem. I mean how many times do you have to arrest the same guy? And then again as I said before. If peoplle want to do stupid stuff hey, its gonna happen. What if the breathalizer would backfire cyanide at .02 (just a joke, dont get bent guys)
I also believe in an "open society" when it came to the drug thing. If its not bolstersd by the Gov. like in Amsterdam eventually the idiots will kill themselves off Kind of like a natural selection thing. May be a strange position for a nurse to take but I dont think stupid people dyin is such a bad thing. Never did understand that passing out clean syring so they can live longer and spread more disease thing.

#23554 by Irminsul
Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:18 am
Felicity I don't think the "forbidden fruit" syndrome is applicable to drug abusers outside of a few teens trying to piss off their parents. People who end up abusing drugs do that because of the drug itself, not simply acting out as a bad boy or girl.

#23555 by Guitaranatomy
Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:20 am
First off, I thought you were leaving for a band session man? Lmao. Welcome back!


Second off, yeah, I agree that people love to do things that are wrong, that is true. And by the way, if you ever catch me saying "Ya," shoot me... Lmao.

Look, man, you said: "If they were legal, you would have to go to a drug store and they would card you," if kids were allowed to have it then why the f*ck are they carding you?... *Hears the commonsense bell again.* Thank you.

It will kill more people if it was legal, as you knew I was going to say. It will, because then it would be flying off the shelves. People would easily OD, now they do not have to go and contact their sources to get the drugs. There you go, now they are stealing mommy and daddy's money and buying the drugs off of the shelves, that is unless you card them. With carding, then the young ones will go to the drug dealers and buy them, and there you go, you still got the dealers. Then Columbia can open up a trade organization with our country, we can just buy tons of it from them legally, and then they will flourish as we go down hill - and then they can build larger armies of drug lords and continue with their guerilla warfare tactics, and start bombing our country for the Hell of it.

Yeah, great job, legal drugs... Perfect, nothing like more dead people and wars.

Peace out, GuitarAnatomy.

#23557 by Guitaranatomy
Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:25 am
SanshouHeil, yeah, but the cops do not need the extra burden anyhow. This country does not need drugs completely legalized, only marijuana for pain therapy should be legal, that is it.


Peace out, GuitarAnatomy.
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#23558 by Felicity Chicane
Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:25 am
Your joking right? There would have to be a minimum age to card so children couldnt buy!!!!!!!! Why would drug dealers sell drugs when you can get them cheaper in the Stores?!?!?!?!?!?!? Do you ever see Beer dealers on the street????? Come on man, think about it.


And the flying off the shelves comment, ok again would you do drugs if they made them legal tomorrow?? Very simple question. PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DO DRUGS IF THEY ARE LEGAL OR NOT~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Be back at 10

#23559 by Guitaranatomy
Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:28 am
*Taps his fingers* Drugs are more appealing than f*cking alcohol, so of course they would buy it off of the street!

And no, I would not buy it from a store, I do not do drugs, man! I am not interested, but for those who are curious, it would make life easier for them. Then they go try it, like it, get addicted, whoops, they O.D.. Now parents have another dead kid, and another getting addicted, because the system is just too simple. People are going to buy them whether they are legal or not, you are right, but if they are illegal it slows down the process of addicts, if they are legal it will only increase it. Plus if they are legal it will enhance the ability for those already on drugs to get them, thus making it impossible for them to get off, even with rehab. It would become the same as alcohol, people will become addicted, hurt others accidently, and in turn the world will be a worse place.

Peace out, GuitarAnatomy.

#23562 by gbheil
Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:34 am
Dang it I have to agree with Irmy again, Hell it grows wild in East Texas.
Dont think smokin anything is good for the lungs but I know lots of very successful, productive, and happy people who smoke pot.
I dont figure I'm special, if I can walk away from cocain because its F/U my life I figure anybody can if they want to. I was neck deep in the drug culture late 70s early 80s. Most of the guys I was associated with back then were respectful responsable folk that just liked to get high. The police for the most part ignore us. (some of em would join you when off duty) Then it got ugly, seems like the "man" figure out there was money to be made fighten the evil pot head, next thing ya know everyone's totin a rosco. Of couse this also coincided with the Columbian era.
#23565 by nofaith
Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:47 am
Felicity Chicane, it's a shame but most of the people in here seem like sheep to me. You are right, but look how fast the others are to give up their freedoms. Without even a fight they are ready to just let others decide who controls their property.

Here is a great article everyone in here should read, and read with an open mind. Try disconecting the part of your brain the government syndicate school system programed and really think:


http://www.strike-the-root.com/61/victor/victor1.html

#23569 by Guitaranatomy
Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:57 am
Do not call me crazy people, I am not trying to be an asshole when I say this:


NoFaith, how is it... You just joined today... Have nothing on your profile, at all... Come on here, and have read the entire conversation in a matter of minutes from us all replying... And agree with Felicity completely...

NoFaith, I think you are Felicity, with another users name. I do not trust you until you show me further proof. I have been around the net, I know this game very well.

Peace, GuitarAnatomy.

#23570 by gbheil
Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:59 am
Personal responsability and liberty- AMEN.

#23571 by nofaith
Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:04 am
Prove what? That I did not just join today? I did, just about an hour ago, don't know what proof you are looking for. Am I felicity? No, but I agree with what I have seen that Felicity has posted. How can I prove anything to you? Can you prove you did not jerk off last night before going to bed? You may say you did not, but how can you prove it? So what proof could I possibly provide (and why should I really care) that would convince you?

I joined and started skimming the boards and this string caught my eye as I am an Anarcho-Capitalist government hater from way back. What can I say, I have sheep radar I guess my friend.



Guitaranatomy wrote:Do not call me crazy people, I am not trying to be an asshole when I say this:


NoFaith, how is it... You just joined today... Have nothing on your profile, at all... Come on here, and have read the entire conversation in a matter of minutes from us all replying... And agree with Felicity completely...

NoFaith, I think you are Felicity, with another users name. I do not trust you until you show me further proof. I have been around the net, I know this game very well.

Peace, GuitarAnatomy.

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