General Music Chat

you know, while I am toiling today trying to make a living, I will when taking my 3 ea. 15 minute coffee breaks

You get coffee breaks? I bet you get lunch also.

Toiling, to make a living... My heart bleeds for you and such a tough line of employment, whatever that is, thank god you have something...

The sooner this regime legalizes them illegally, the sooner they will bring in their parents, cousins, nieces, nephews, uncles, aunts, and whomever through chain immigration. Then they will all get government handouts at the working mans expense and then the economy will crash. That is the goal of this regime. (the Cloward Piven Strategy)

When that happens they will be left with nothing like the rest of us. People who break the laws to get here are less inclined to obey any of our laws. What would you do in a strange country if it went bankrupt and there were no services along with water and food shortages? That will bring in a time of great bloodshed.

Any fool should be able to see that the very few who work can not sustain the many who do not contribute. But then there are more then enough without any common sense what so ever to enable such as this this to happen. Only the drones are without the common sense to see what is on the horizon.

I have a solution.
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"Let's take over the whole North American land mass, we can still keep the USA name too". (We are a melting pot, you know and we could use the new blood)

(We should have Canada join us as well, eh? lol.)

That way, no one will be illegal unless they come from somewhere other than North or South America.

"It's a whole lot easier keeping them off the continent than from climbing the fence, besides we are all 10 fingers and 10 toes still, right"?

When the aliens show up, we'll all be brothers in arms again because whatever is left will have no choice than to unite or die.

The sooner this regime legalizes them illegally, the sooner they will bring in their parents, cousins, nieces, nephews, uncles, aunts, and whomever through chain immigration. Then they will all get government handouts at the working mans expense and then the economy will crash. That is the goal of this regime. (the Cloward Piven Strategy)

When that happens they will be left with nothing like the rest of us. People who break the laws to get here are less inclined to obey any of our laws. What would you do in a strange country if it went bankrupt and there were no services along with water and food shortages? That will bring in a time of great bloodshed.

Any fool should be able to see that the very few who work can not sustain the many who do not contribute. But then there are more then enough without any common sense what so ever to enable such as this this to happen. Only the drones are without the common sense to see what is on the horizon.

it's really not the few who work that sustain the many who do not contribute, but is the few with massive amounts of UNEARNED INCOME gained from stock dividends, rental income, and other passive forms of financial gains we need to worry about.. until they get all the wealth brought back into U.S. jurisdiction rather than Swiss bank accounts we will always be in slavery to them..

until they get all the wealth brought back into U.S. jurisdiction rather than Swiss bank accounts we will always be in slavery to them..

Then we have a catch 22 situation.

They are putting their money offshore because they aren't stupid. It will be confiscated at no value here.

If you want to see that money come back and affect America, then let the Capitalists be the ones who fund business, instead of government doing that (or taking all profit of successful business). SOMEONE has to create and fund business for YOU to have a job. The government (which is now a totalitarian dictatorship wholly owned by the Democrat Party) is the enemy of investment in America now. They are only interested in extortion.

Who wants a piece of that? No one puts their treasure into a pot that has a hole in it.

So...change this government and you will see a big change in our economy coming back with a roar heard 'round the planet. Unfortunately, if I'm a betting man, I say we're heading quietly down the toilet instead.




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Dane that's a great Idea... I have a better one along those same lines...

Why don't we just get the federal reserve to print say 35 trillion U.S. dollars. Think about it. That would be enough to WIPE out the national debt, AND leave enough to give every tax paying citizen and illegal non paying tax alien a million bucks.

Think of what that would do to stimulate the economy if every one was able to spend a million bucks. That would also solve the problem of all those fat cats, because over night their hidden money would depreciate.

I bet that would show those bastards.

So what do you think? You really should agree. Good idea?

Dane that's a great Idea... I have a better one along those same lines...

Why don't we just get the federal reserve to print say 35 trillion U.S. dollars. Think about it. That would be enough to WIPE out the national debt, AND leave enough to give every tax paying citizen and illegal non paying tax alien a million bucks.

Think of what that would do to stimulate the economy if every one was able to spend a million bucks. That would also solve the problem of all those fat cats, because over night their hidden money would depreciate.

I bet that would show those bastards.

So what do you think? You really should agree. Good idea?

no, terrible idea GLENNY J.. absurd idea, don't let them pool their money offshore, and charge them at least 50% tax rate on passive income.. remember Eisenhower? I am not saying 92% tax rate , only 50%.. remember the lessons I am teaching you, remmeber the biblical parable I taught you about the widows mite.. Jesus, was irate to say the least, on how much the rich actually gave to the treasury in comparison to the poor widow.. she gave almost everything she had, while the rich although giving a lot, was not putting a dent in their lifestyle, again how many mansions and yachts does a fellow need? you want to remember wealth is passed down and Jesus did not agree with that concept.. Jesus was right

OK Dane now I'm learning... You are right! We should force companies that make money in their international operations to shut them down. A perfect example is McDonalds. Their earnings just came through showing improved profits overseas. Imagine making more money while you poison the world with BIG MACs, (tm). Our government should shut them down and make them bring that money back to be taxed.

Think of how many companies are doing the same thing. Then they hide all the profits in Switzerland instead of bringing them home to declare dividends for all the public retirement funds that own shares. Shame shame shame.

I like my first Idea much better... It's almost as good as yours.

GLENNY what I am having a hard time understanding about your point of view about the rich, is that you think it is a level playing field in terms of competition between a not so well off business entity (like a mom and pop burger joint) has compared to (using your example) a McDonalds Corp. how is it fair when one company can buy a 1,000 train cars of beef for their burgers at $2.00 a lb. (just an example) because of their wealth, and they have the cold storage warehouses to stock it..SKU 's..when a local mom and pop burger joint can only get the same quality beef at $3.50 lb... how is it fair unless some sort of regulation brought about by the federal government makes it more even? say, taxing the wealthy a slightly smaller tax rate to compensate.. maybe a hundred years ago there was a more level playing field but nowadays you need checks and balances..otherwise instead of 1% of population owning 40% of the world's resources, in a few years it might be 1% owning 65% of the world's resources? do you want it to perpetuate unchecked until you are in hock to "them" for even the air you breath? ..a federal government has to step in and tax them like in the 1950's..but first we need to get them (the 1% ers) out of the politicians pockets..

Savage man was the most effective phucking animal out - no more, no less. While every other animal relied on pure instinct, bros had freedom, and it was super phucking effective. Was he cold and wet without shelter from the elements? f**k no. Savage man wasn't a bitch like you. He didn't give two shits about gourmet dining or fine tobacco or bearskin rugs - as long as his basic needs were met, he was happy as phuck. And his needs were the most basic needs any bro has ever had - sandwiches, sleep, sex. Ladies, take note. In fact, write those down. He'll thank you later.


That's why bros never fought in the state of nature. Why bother? Once his needs were met, that was it. He wasn't wicked or greedy; in fact, he had no idea of good and evil. All he knew was hunger and exhaustion and desire. Since men had the advantage of freedom over instinct, it wasn't hard for any bro to satisfy these.


Did inequality exist back then? Well, of course. Sometimes smart-as-shit bros devised a plan that required a strong-as-phuck bro to execute. But when bros absolutely had to work together, they did so simply and advantageously - they didn't intrude on each other's freedom. Instead, they made deals, fulfilled them, and went on their way. phuck, bros barely even needed language, so simple were their needs and the tasks required to fill them. Point, grunt, kill, eat, sleep. phucking lather rinse repeat, bitches. If something didn't help a bro preserve himself, he had no use for it - words were as few as needs. Men were naturally unequal, but back then, that just meant different.




Eventually, though, bros got too phucking successful, and they started to spread. Natural disasters, weather patterns, scarcity, none of that sh*t kept them in check; bros just hardened, got stronger, and began to develop new concepts. And then modern society was truly born: some asshole invented property. He put some sticks in the ground and told people, "This is mine." If those first bros had told him, as they should have, "What? phuck you, dude. It's the goddamn earth, how do those sticks make it yours?" we could have avoided a whole bunch of trouble. But apparently he convinced enough people that one could actually own land, and sh*t went downhill from there.


Soon enough bros started marking out territory left and right, building huts and developing tools. Then families began staying together and dividing up roles since women now had a 'home' they could stay in. With homes to stay in, land to cultivate, and families to care for, bros got phucking lazy. No, that doesn't sound awesome, it sounds phucking terrible - thus began the pussification of bros everywhere. All those luxuries soon became needs - after all, how many of you could survive without a grocery store, out in the wild with a spear and a cave? Those are supposed to be conveniences, but they soon got out of control, and men became dependent on each other. We got social real phucking quick then, because when things got tough bros suddenly had no idea what to do on their own - so language got more complex, tribes formed, and men began to judge and exclude each other.


This is where sh*t actually got ugly. Men were now divided into rich and poor, have and have-nots, and since the have-nots no longer had the ability to perform the feats of badassery and serviitude that all men once knew, they had to work or steal. Here men and tribes started warring with each other over resources, taking from the rich what they could What did the rich do? Did they fight back? phuck no. Why bother going the hard way? They were rich as phuck and didn't really need to fight - besides, they needed to keep exploiting the poor, since they had even less testicular fortitude than the have-nots - so instead, they invented government. Yeah, that's right, government is nothing but a trick of the rich to subjugate the poor. "Hey, guys, you know how we're always fighting and sh*t? How about we come up with a way to resolve our disputes without killing each other, hm?" Sure, that sounds like a good idea, until you realize who exactly composes the government. Of course the rich have more influence, so that 'peaceful dispute resolution' somehow conveniently seems to always go their way - suddenly the rich and the poor are the powerful and the weak.


Of course people noticed that government didn't fix the inequality, and this was a crucial moment in our history - we could have fixed it by starting over, or abandoning the system and property altogether, but we tried to fix system that could never work, and legitimate social contracts soon turned into monarchies. The first laws were necessary, because they convinced bros that they could be ruled by laws; they never realized that only laws that were part of a social contract, that they voluntarily accepted, could really bind them. When the powerful destroyed these laws and put in place new ones, the people could have returned to nature, unbound - but they didn't. It's hard to blame them - think of how far people had fallen from the badass bros men once were. When no one came along to remind them of that, they gave up their freedom because the didn't know how to fight for it. Some of them reduced the harms of governments by insisting on 'democracies', but the rich dictated the terms of even those democracies, and all that did was spread out the corruption.


Look, any inequality beyond our natural abilities exists because we lost sight of our original needs. Who really needs anything more than to survive? Who needs a phucking jet? The more important wealth is, the more corrupt a society is - the farther it has fallen from that original state where all men could be happy and fend for themselves. No wonder savage men never commit suicide - they have it made. They have everything they want. Only in corruption do our wants exceed our abilities. Inequality is wrong when it exceeds the inherent inequality in our natural abilities, and there's no phucking bro in the world who is seven houses and a yacht more naturally talented than anyone else; no one is so much less talented that he deserves to starve. phuck society for telling you that.

WOOOW! Sorry Dane... I didn't mean to let you expose yourself that much...

enough of this, I gotta get back to polishing up my sets.. solo acts have to be spot on, no room for slop, you should hear me singing and playing
"Ten Feet Away" Ill be blowing them out of the water.. you realize how many walk-bys you get at a good swap meet? thousands on Sundays..

Never heard that song, Ten Feet Away... Can you play, BY THE WINDOW?
I'll help you out.

GLENNY what I am having a hard time understanding about your point of view about the rich, is that you think it is a level playing field in terms of competition between a not so well off business entity (like a mom and pop burger joint) has compared to (using your example) a McDonalds Corp. how is it fair when one company can buy a 1,000 train cars of beef for their burgers at $2.00 a lb. (just an example) because of their wealth, and they have the cold storage warehouses to stock it..SKU 's..when a local mom and pop burger joint can only get the same quality beef at $3.50 lb... how is it fair unless some sort of regulation brought about by the federal government makes it more even? say, taxing the wealthy a slightly smaller tax rate to compensate.. maybe a hundred years ago there was a more level playing field but nowadays you need checks and balances..otherwise instead of 1% of population owning 40% of the world's resources, in a few years it might be 1% owning 65% of the world's resources? do you want it to perpetuate unchecked until you are in hock to "them" for even the air you breath? ..a federal government has to step in and tax them like in the 1950's..but first we need to get them (the 1% ers) out of the politicians pockets..

Dane, what YOU are having a hard time understanding is that, that big corporation McDonald's was once a small business? They became a BIG corporation thru hard work, perseverance, personal responsibility and the lack of overreaching government regulation! Another thing YOU are having a hard time understanding is that with all YOUR government meddling it will be virtually impossible to EVER do what McDonald's did again! Your liberal thinking will turn this country into a nation of big corporations and a GOVERNMENT that's in their back pocket! You see they have it figured out. Keep the nitwits fighting amongst themselves and they won't be fighting us. Divide and conquer get it?

Your liberal thinking will turn this country into a nation of big corporations and a GOVERNMENT that's in their back pocket! You see they have it figured out. Keep the nitwits fighting amongst themselves and they won't be fighting us. Divide and conquer get it?

yeah, cos that's NOT the strategy of the right????

just turn on any "talk radio" or faux news and ALL THEY DO is add more fuel to the fire encouraging more righteous outrage.

so...what, their goal w that is to PULL EVERYONE TOGETHER by doing that????? no, it's not. hardly.

how about the tea party???...hell, they're dividing and carving up the right!!

but still you wanna blame libs, and dems for keeping us divided and at each other's throats?????

look at some of the biggest crooks who were in bed w big business.....Agnew, Nixon, Chaney, etc....were they dems? or libs?

think about this....when gov't passes leglislation that makes it EASIER for big business to exploit workers and gives them a free pass to rape the environment... THAT's when you have to watch out for collusion and "i'll scratch your's if you scratch mine".

....not when a pres tries to hold big business accountable.