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#229383 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Fri Jan 31, 2014 7:00 pm
The Man Who Would Be King
By David Limbaugh January 31, 2014

Other than his fundamental dishonesty about certain conditions in America, what he stands for, his record, his failure to accept responsibility for his actions, his demonization, his divisive rhetoric, his arrogant promise to double down on his unconstitutional unilateral executive actions, his calls for yet more government instead of less, his foreign policy distortions and his diminution of the presidential office, President Obama's State of the Union address was pretty good.

President Obama remains on his high horse about minimum wage, but he conveniently ignores that only 1 percent of the people in the U.S. labor force earn minimum wage, that the largest group among them is teenagers, that most are younger than 25, that most work less than 30 hours a week and that there are more than six times more minimum wage workers now than there were in 2007, shortly before he took office. More importantly, he doesn't admit that increases to minimum wage invariably lead to increased unemployment.

He continued his phony GOP war on women meme with his distortion of the employment pay disparity between men and women. He has to know that it is outright misleading to imply that women who are in the same jobs as men are paid only 77 cents for every dollar the men are paid. Studies show that women who are doing the same work as men receive less, but it's closer to 91 cents for every dollar.

He boasted that "more than 9 million Americans have signed up for private health insurance or Medicaid coverage." He failed to mention that because of Obamacare, more than 5 million Americans have been forced out of their private plans and that many are losing access to their doctors. He didn't say that his law robs $700 billion from Medicare to finance unnecessary new health care spending under Obamacare. He omitted Obamacare's deliberate assault on religious freedom. Nor did he discuss his lawless edicts exempting entities from the law's mandates.

Obama says he has cut the deficit in half. That's only close to true if you use as a base line Bush's last (partial) fiscal year, which was an extraordinary year because of the financial crisis. He's probably the biggest spender in the history of the universe. His current deficit is about twice Bush's average deficit, and if it weren't for Republicans forcing spending cuts, it would be much higher. Obama blocks reform of entitlements, which will bankrupt the nation unless restructured, and if he had his way, he'd further increase spending, with more "stimulus" and infrastructure schemes.

Obama says we have "the lowest unemployment rate in over five years," conveniently ignoring that we have the lowest labor participation rate in decades and that some 50 million people are on food stamps! His spending, taxing and regulations are killing the job market.

Obama touted the American people's "profound belief in opportunity for all." "Opportunity," he said, "is who we are." No one believes that "he" is part of that "we." If he truly cared about opportunity, he would loosen his stranglehold on the private sector and promote jobs. He would quit opposing work requirements in welfare reform and stop sabotaging the labor market with his minimum wage and unemployment extension agenda.

Obama dovetailed this counterfeit fealty to opportunity with his demagoguery about income inequality. But his own policies are exacerbating income inequality, and he has no solutions to alleviate it -- other than to use government to confiscate the assets of some Americans and give them to others. He can't talk about upward mobility on the one hand and then do everything in his power to discourage people from helping themselves on the other.

In a staggering display of dishonesty, he took credit for increased American production of oil and natural gas and claimed he supports energy independence. In the meantime, he impedes both industries -- and the coal industry -- and implements oppressive fuel omission standards. Any increases in energy production, other than his failed green projects, are in spite of him, not because of him. He's pushed for cap and trade, imposed energy taxes and demanded more onerous regulations on oil, gas and coal. And though global warming, er, climate change is a "fact" and "settled," we're freezing our buns off in the Midwest.

Obama impugns the "wealthy" at every opportunity, implying that most have acquired their money unfairly or through inheritance, which is demonstrably, statistically false. He vilifies Republicans while saying he wants us to all work together.

He says Republicans are only against things and not "for" anything. In fact, they've proposed countless reform plans, on health care, energy, taxes, spending, entitlements, defense and job creation. He knows better, but he has but one mode of operation: division, polarization and demonization.

If all this weren't bad enough, he promises even more unlawful unilateral action, as if he were king and not the head of one of three coequal branches of government. If he had his way, he would be.

David Limbaugh is a writer, author and attorney. His latest book, "The Great Destroyer," reached No. 2 on the New York Times best-seller list for nonfiction. Follow him on Twitter @davidlimbaugh and his website at www.davidlimbaugh.com. To read features by other Creators Syndicate writers and cartoonists, visit the Creators Syndicate Web page at www.creators.com.

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#229384 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Fri Jan 31, 2014 7:02 pm
Honestly, I could only watch about 60 seconds of it before I wanted to puke and turned it off.

Are there people who actually believe a word this guy says anymore?

We are living in extremely dangerous times, friends.







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#229394 by GuitarMikeB
Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:29 pm
How about keeping the non-music-related stuff in the General Chat section of these forums? :wink:

#229398 by J-HALEY
Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:04 pm
I didn't watch one second of it. In fact every time I hear that man speak I change the channel! I am done listening to his lies and hypocrisy!

You summed the man up perfectly Ted! This country is drunk with the anti-Christ BS.
#229399 by Planetguy
Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:19 pm
yod wrote:President Obama remains on his high horse about minimum wage, but he conveniently ignores that only 1 percent of the people in the U.S. labor force earn minimum wage, that the largest group among them is teenagers, that most are younger than 25, that most work less than 30 hours a week


Low-wage Workers Are Older Than You Think
88 Percent of Workers Who Would Benefit From a Higher Minimum Wage Are Older Than 20, One Third Are Over 40

By David Cooper and Dan Essrow | August 28, 2013


It is a common myth that very low-wage workers—workers who would see a raise if the minimum wage were increased—are mostly teenagers.

The reality is that raising the federal minimum wage to $10.10 per hour would primarily benefit older workers. 88 percent of workers who would be affected by raising the minimum wage are at least 20 years old, and a third of them are at least 40 years old.

When describing who would see a raise if the minimum wage were increased, it is important to look at everyone who earns between the current minimum wage and the proposed new one, as well as workers earning just above the new minimum wage (who would likely also see a small pay increase as employers move to preserve internal wage ladders).

The typical worker who would be affected by an increase in the minimum wage to $10.10 per hour by 2015 looks nothing like the part-time, teen stereotype: She is in her early thirties, works full-time, and may have a family to support. Our analysis of workers who would benefit from an increase in the minimum wage shows:

The average age of affected workers is 35 years old;

88 percent of all affected workers are at least 20 years old;
35.5 percent are at least 40 years old;
56 percent are women;
28 percent have children;
55 percent work full-time (35 hours per week or more);
44 percent have at least some college experience.

Claims that mostly teenagers would see a raise if the minimum wage were increased are sometimes based erroneously upon the official Bureau of Labor Statistics data on workers who are earning the federal minimum wage or below—i.e. workers earning exactly $7.25 per hour or less. These data do not provide an accurate picture of who would see a raise if the minimum wage were increased because they exclude all workers from the 19 states with higher state minimum wages, along with all workers making slightly above the current federal minimum wage but below the proposed minimum, all of whom would see a raise if the minimum wage were increased. Also, see a comprehensive analysis of the impact of raising the minimum wage in Raising the federal minimum wage to $10.10 would give working families, and the overall economy, a much-needed boost.

#229403 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Fri Jan 31, 2014 11:03 pm
GuitarMikeB wrote:How about keeping the non-music-related stuff in the General Chat section of these forums? :wink:


It's not (immediately) relevant to people in the UK, so it's going into the USA section. The title was pretty clear so you can just stay away if you don't want to talk about it.



It is a common myth that very low-wage workers—workers who would see a raise if the minimum wage were increased—are mostly teenagers.


Mark,

"Low-wage workers" are not affected by raising the minimum wage of Federal workers in any way, so you have only fallen for the oldest trick in a politician's book. He is only patronizing people who aren't paying attention to the details. He's manipulating people emotionally.

Who could be against making more money? No one, that's who. But that will not be the result of what he is proposing, and when it further ruins our economy, he will then use another disaster to blame everyone but himself for what he has done.

This video clip below might surprise you. Here is what grass-roots activists of the black community in Chicago have to say about it. They aren't fooled for one minute because they have known his Modus Operandi longer than the rest of us.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7mYg6Gt15o
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#229417 by MikeTalbot
Sat Feb 01, 2014 1:19 am
Yod

Nobody ever changes anyone's mind with these political discussions. No disrespect meant - I think you know by now I'm not that way - but I just can't do it these days.

I reckon God has plan and has stirred up folks to believe what they wish to believe. A 'strong delusion' perhaps?

Politics I reckon, is over. The dénouement will soon be upon us.

Sadly, I haven't seen PaperDog, JimmyDanger or Mr. Scott in way too long - the discussions become to ugly, too personal - yet all those guys had lots to contribute.

I'll stop whining now.

Talbot

#229423 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Sat Feb 01, 2014 3:10 am
Did you see what his former-supporters in Chicago had to say in that video, Talbot? I believe that most people really do want to do the right thing, so it's only a matter of shining the light of truth until everyone can see it. There is too much at stake to just give up.

I think an intellectually honest person would have to admit that State of the Union speech was a terrible joke played on the people of these United States. I'm hoping that anyone who is still under this "strong delusion" watched it, because I think he has overplayed his hand this time.

It would take a special kind of blindness to still think this guy cares about anyone but himself. It ought to be clear that he'd flush all of us without a second thought. He's dangerous and we are all in danger.


I bring it up because I just spent the last 3 days hanging out with this guy:

http://kamalsaleem.com



He came to America as a Muslim Brotherhood operative. He knows the plan to destroy the USA from within. They are targeting Texas right now, because we are the only state capable of leading a new republic should anything happen to the US government. (we have our own electric grid, oil and refineries, deep sea port, high tech, agriculture, etc)

This administration has 6 MB operatives in high position, including 2 in charge of Homeland Security. Our State Department has also been infiltrated at the highest levels, with Hillary's closest advisor being Huma Abedin.

Funding for Muslim Brotherhood attack on Bengazi came from Islamic Dawa Organization, who also funds Hamas in Gaza and other Sunni terrorist groups, including bin Laden. The head of this organization is Malik Obama, half-brother and best man at Barak's marriage. He is also the head of the Barak Obama Foundation.

Through these kinds of shadowy money laundering methods, leadership of Republicans and Democrats have been bought (through ACORN channels), and their plan is well underway.

Whether anyone believes me now or not...when the dukey hits the fan, I'm standing with Americans. Y'all are all welcome in Texas if we are able to withstand this stealth attack taking place over the next decade.

God help us all.

#229432 by Planetguy
Sat Feb 01, 2014 4:29 pm
yod wrote:
Mark,

"Low-wage workers" are not affected by raising the minimum wage of Federal workers in any way, so you have only fallen for the oldest trick in a politician's book. He is only patronizing people who aren't paying attention to the details. He's manipulating people emotionally.


it seems pretty simple to me that not just minimum wage workers but anyone and everyone who has been earning under the the new $10.10 increase is gonna see a bigger paycheck.

if i was working somewhere at $9.00 an hr i'm gonna see a pay raise too, no?

i haven't had time to check out that video yet, ted...will do so when time allows.

#229434 by Planetguy
Sat Feb 01, 2014 4:34 pm
MikeTalbot wrote:Yod

Nobody ever changes anyone's mind with these political discussions. No disrespect meant - I think you know by now I'm not that way - but I just can't do it these days.

I reckon God has plan and has stirred up folks to believe what they wish to believe. A 'strong delusion' perhaps?

Politics I reckon, is over. The dénouement will soon be upon us.

Sadly, I haven't seen PaperDog, JimmyDanger or Mr. Scott in way too long - the discussions become to ugly, too personal - yet all those guys had lots to contribute.

I'll stop whining now.

Talbot



mike, i'm with you on this. more and more i see these BM "discussions" as a fruitless and pointless waste of time and good will. they only drive a wedge between musicians who regardless of our religious or political views should instead be brothers in arms. 8)

#229435 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Sat Feb 01, 2014 4:42 pm
I understand the theory, but I don't think it works like that when Federal workers (at minimum wage) are the only ones who get the raise.

I wonder how many in government are getting minimum wage anyway? The highest paying sector in O's economy is government jobs, which don't really create or produce anything, except higher taxes. So, following the logic, all government wages are about to be higher, and we know who pays their salaries, right? I don't see that as good news at all.

There is a difference between an economy that produces so many jobs that employers have to give raises because of fierce competition for good labor, and an economic manipulation that only dictates less profit. The history of government raising minimum wage is that people are laid off, kids no longer find entry level positions into the workforce, and the people left with jobs are working harder/longer to compensate.

I totally understand that there are employers who will take advantage of people for profit, but in a truly free market economy, they will lose money in the long run because they will constantly have employee turnover, as people learn skills and move on to better paying jobs.

Oh, those were the days....



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#229436 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Sat Feb 01, 2014 4:48 pm
Planetguy wrote: more and more i see these BM "discussions" as a fruitless and pointless waste of time and good will. 8)



well, they don't have to be. If we would talk to each other like we were talking to our dad, it would be good to understand each other's viewpoint. The real problems I see between opposing sides in America is our lack of understanding geographical differences.

For example, our old friend jimmy favored socialistic solutions because in Detroit today, that's probably all that will work to get them out of the red again (because of socialistic practise in their past). But the same solution there would be a disaster in the south. This is why we had States rights before the Civil War. One size does not fit all.


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#229479 by MikeTalbot
Sun Feb 02, 2014 8:35 pm
Yod

What on earth were you thinking:

"...our old friend jimmy favored socialistic solutions because in Detroit today, that's probably all that will work to get them out of the red again (because of socialistic practice in their past"

When I wrote for LewRockwell.com I had a colleague named Karen de Coster. Google up her blog and see what is really putting Detroit back together. hint: It sure as hell ain't socialism!

Talbot

#229481 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Sun Feb 02, 2014 9:09 pm
MikeTalbot wrote:Yod

What on earth were you thinking:

"...our old friend jimmy favored socialistic solutions because in Detroit today, that's probably all that will work to get them out of the red again (because of socialistic practice in their past"

When I wrote for LewRockwell.com I had a colleague named Karen de Coster. Google up her blog and see what is really putting Detroit back together. hint: It sure as hell ain't socialism!

Talbot



I'll go read that now, but what I meant was that there were not enough profitable businesses left to generate enough taxes to fix their widespread problems....

If that has changed it would be good news.

For the record, I don't think socialism ever works but I could understand why someone might advocate for it in Detroit, as opposed to any city of Texas.

#229542 by Deadguitars
Tue Feb 04, 2014 3:55 pm
yod wrote:
I totally understand that there are employers who will take advantage of people for profit, but in a truly free market economy, they will lose money in the long run because they will constantly have employee turnover, as people learn skills and move on to better paying jobs.

Oh, those were the days....



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Its not 1950 ; cars arent built by hand - robots dont need pensions salaries or unions.
Manufacturing is going automated - aint no need for many peoples skill set right now.
I am self employed - on that level I am a capitalist but Capitalism has a dark side.
Grew up in a town where a classmates family owned a hardware store for 50 + years .... Big box stores put them out of biz - thats life, huh ?
Local music store cant sell Fenders or Gibsons cause the big box stores have deals in place .... thats life , huh ?
The bottom line is the bottom line and people be damned
Everyone is bought in Wash ; the system is broken ....
The system is rigged for the wealthiest
That guy last week -the billionaire -the guy who said he was being persecuted like the Jews were by the Nazi's ..... they run this country.
Thats life I guess.

It angers me to to my core that the little guy is being squeezed out of the game.

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