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Let me know if you can figure this out?

4 Simple questions from a reputable attorney...............
(name/address/etc. below)

This really should get your "gray matter" to churning, even if you are an Obama fan. I wouldn't want my hero to be made out to be a liar, would you?

For all you "anti-Fox News" folks, none of this information came from Fox. All of it can be verified from legitimate sources (Wikipedia, the Kapiolani hospital website itself, and a good history book, as noted herein). It is very easy for someone to check out.

4 Simple Questions:

1. Back in 1961 people of color were called 'Negroes.' So how can the Obama 'birth certificate' state he is "African-American" when the term wasn't even used at that time ?

2. The birth certificate that the White House released lists Obama's birth as August 4, 1961 & Lists Barack Hussein Obama as his father. No big deal, Right ? At the time of Obama's birth, it also shows that his father is aged 25 years old, and that Obama's father was born in "Kenya , East Africa ".

This wouldn't seem like anything of concern, except the fact that Kenya did not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama's birth, and 27 years after his father's birth. How could Obama's father have been born in a country that did not yet Exist? Up and until Kenya was formed in 1963, it was known as the "British East Africa Protectorate". (check it below)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenya_


3. On the Birth Certificate released by the White House, the listed place of birth is "Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital". This cannot be, because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were called "KauiKeolani Children's Hospital" and "Kapi'olani Maternity Home", Respectively. The name did not change to Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until 1978, when these two hospitals merged. How can this particular name of the hospital be on a birth certificate dated 1961 if this name had not yet been applied to it until 1978 ?
(CHECK IT BELOW)
(http://www.kapiolani.org/women-and-chil ... fault.aspx)

4. Perhaps a clue comes from Obama's book on his father. He stateshow proud he is of his father fighting in WW II. I'm not a math genius, so I may need some help from you. Barack Obama's "birth certificate" says his father was 25 years old in 1961 when Obama was born. That should have put his father's date of birth approximately 1936-if my math holds (Honest! I did That without a calculator!!!) Now we need a non-revised history book-one that hasn't been altered to satisfy the author's goals-to verify that WW II was basically between 1939 and 1945. Just how many 3 year olds fight in Wars? Even in the latest stages of WW II his father wouldn't have been more than 9 years old.
Does that mean that Mr. Obama is a liar, or simply chooses to alter the facts to satisfy his imagination or political purposes ?

Why hasn't this been discussed in the major media ?

Very truly yours,
Rich
RICHARD R. SILVERLIEB
Attorney at Law
354 Eisenhower Parkway
Livingston , NJ 07039

"A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than a gun in the hands of 200 million law-abiding citizens."

What's amazing is that none of that seems to matter, he is worshiped
Like an idol and once they drink the cool aid it's over. I do service work
And when I go in some homes and see the shrines arranged for Obama
It never ceases to amaze me, there has never been a president that
Had this much influence to the point where it does not matter what he
Says or does ,how many executive orders he passes ,how many times
He has made a promise that was broken , he has a control over a major
Part of our population ,I think he would have to kill somebody to change
The perception ,oh wait I forgot about his drone targets...............
Never mind

Sadly, none of that matters.

The Lord raises up leaders as He deems appropriate. I find it horrifying that He considers that Obama person appropriate for the USA but given 55 million murdered babies I am in no way surprised. Turns out you really do get what you pay for.

Given that God apparently thought George Bush an appropriate leader for us I shouldn't be surprised by Obama. Bush was just as bad as Zero and created the police state apparatus the Obama enjoys so much. Bush didn't save a single baby or even try. I can't imagine why conservatives think he was such a wonderful guy. A 'strong delusion' perhaps? Or just wishful thinking?

Any body, anywhere, notice that it was Saudi Arabians that hit us on 911? Anybody, anywhere, notice that it was Saudis that were trying to get us to attack Christians in Syria? Has anybody noticed that those stinking Saudis own our media and our political elite? No...?

That's what I figured.

That is why I rarely waste my time on left / right political discussions. There is no 'right' anymore - just two wings of the leftist ruling party, stomping out Christians and Jews at the behest of those demonic, sniveling Saudi scum.

Talbot

Sadly, none of that matters.

The Lord raises up leaders as He deems appropriate. I find it horrifying that He considers that Obama person appropriate for the USA but given 55 million murdered babies I am in no way surprised. Turns out you really do get what you pay for.

Given that God apparently thought George Bush an appropriate leader for us I shouldn't be surprised by Obama. Bush was just as bad as Zero and created the police state apparatus the Obama enjoys so much. Bush didn't save a single baby or even try. I can't imagine why conservatives think he was such a wonderful guy. A 'strong delusion' perhaps? Or just wishful thinking?

Any body, anywhere, notice that it was Saudi Arabians that hit us on 911? Anybody, anywhere, notice that it was Saudis that were trying to get us to attack Christians in Syria? Has anybody noticed that those stinking Saudis own our media and our political elite? No...?

That's what I figured.

That is why I rarely waste my time on left / right political discussions. There is no 'right' anymore - just two wings of the leftist ruling party, stomping out Christians and Jews at the behest of those demonic, sniveling Saudi scum.

Talbot

Appropriate for HIS agenda . . . always keep in mind, appropriate to His eternal purpose.
No one knows how many souls will be brought to Christ through opposition to the current evil powers.
Shortly after Christ's resurrection the Roman governance stomped on Christianity in order to put out the flames.
All they succeeded in doing was blowing the sparks all over the globe.

Being appropriate for His eternal agenda in not a Holy stamp of approval.

I guess you would have to debate if it was God's choice, we elect these
Leaders so we should share some blame IMHO ,however I agree with you
About Bush, they were Saudi's that flew the planes and the millions of
People including children that died in that war has never been answered
For I said in a previous post I believe politics is nothing more than a puppet
Show designed to keep us occupied while the real agenda is carried out
Behind the scenes. However you must admit that Obama seems to have
Almost a mind control over much of the population.

WHERE IS mark? I thought he would blow up on this one.

Greg,

If you believe the Bible then you would find it teaches that all authority is appointed by God and there is no authority that has not been appointed by God. And this for his purpose. Some authority is appointed for blessing, other is appointed for retribution, and that being for the rejection of his authority and salvation. Considering that, it is easy to see not only what is happening to America but also why it is happening.

George

Yep. Praying 'Thy Will be Done' requires a great deal of courage when you really consider it in the long view.

I'm no better than St. Peter (though I have his flaws and lots more); he was an apostle of Christ and yet was crucified upside down. Ouch. In the long view of 'eternal' life that's just a bump on the highway I suppose.

But I'd prefer to give it a pass if possible. God is playing hard ball with existence just now and I feel very small. It's wonderful that He is a loving God. It's terrifying that He is a just God.

Talbot

Greg,

If you believe the Bible then you would find it teaches that all authority is appointed by God and there is no authority that has not been appointed by God. And this for his purpose. Some authority is appointed for blessing, other is appointed for retribution, and that being for the rejection of his authority and salvation. Considering that, it is easy to see not only what is happening to America but also why it is happening.

AMEN!

George

Yep. Praying 'Thy Will be Done' requires a great deal of courage when you really consider it in the long view.

I'm no better than St. Peter (though I have his flaws and lots more); he was an apostle of Christ and yet was crucified upside down. Ouch. In the long view of 'eternal' life that's just a bump on the highway I suppose.

But I'd prefer to give it a pass if possible. God is playing hard ball with existence just now and I feel very small. It's wonderful that He is a loving God. It's terrifying that He is a just God.

Talbot

"Thy will be done" doesn't require any courage. Either believe or don't.
If this existence just ends in a black wall, so be it.

But I find that hard to believe when you see something as perfect as a tree growing or the moon giving us night light or the smile of a new born baby.

God has given me no reason to fear. The same as no other man.

Greg,

If you believe the Bible then you would find it teaches that all authority is appointed by God and there is no authority that has not been appointed by God. And this for his purpose. Some authority is appointed for blessing, other is appointed for retribution, and that being for the rejection of his authority and salvation. Considering that, it is easy to see not only what is happening to America but also why it is happening.

Thanks for correcting me ,I do see the book of revelations seems to be
Coming closer to reality

George

Yep. Praying 'Thy Will be Done' requires a great deal of courage when you really consider it in the long view.

I'm no better than St. Peter (though I have his flaws and lots more); he was an apostle of Christ and yet was crucified upside down. Ouch. In the long view of 'eternal' life that's just a bump on the highway I suppose.

But I'd prefer to give it a pass if possible. God is playing hard ball with existence just now and I feel very small. It's wonderful that He is a loving God. It's terrifying that He is a just God.

Talbot

"Thy will be done" doesn't require any courage. Either believe or don't.
If this existence just ends in a black wall, so be it.

But I find that hard to believe when you see something as perfect as a tree growing or the moon giving us night light or the smile of a new born baby.

God has given me no reason to fear. The same as no other man.

I understood exactly what Mike was saying Glenn.
He and I have had this conversation before.
As fallen men the fact that God is perfect in His Love and His Justice can be as frightening as the fact that The Spirit is with us is comforting.
Observe 'popular Christianity' today.
It's all about Love granting license to live intentionally in sin and totally negating Justice.
Very popular with the in crowd down at Sodom & Gomorrah.

Just to bring this back to the original topic...

obama was not a born in America , guaranteed American citizen, and he has fostered and perpetuated the lies.

Some how WE the PEOPLE, have allowed a foreign national to take control of our most prestigious political office.

This is so un-real, that Slackers explanations make the only sense.

Scary stuff... I don't know, how I will react when this all comes to some crazy fruition

It is funny that Christians pray "Come quickly Lord Jesus" Yet they give no thought to the horrific chain of events that must precede His coming. But if we know what God is doing, then we pray not to stave off the inevitable but rather that we have the strength to embrace it. In light of this one could be praying for the salvation of The American republic and be opposing the will of God.

The corruption of this society can not be turned back in my opinion. Moral issues can not be legislated. In fact whenever men try to legislate morality societies grow worse and the legislation men impose on others is even more evil than the problem that inspired it. Society has to be purged, and only God can do that. We wove the web that now ensnares us.

But that is just the way I see it. I am sure of where we are headed and I have said it before, so I for one say bring it on. I am only passing through this world. I have better places to go.

I have better places to go also. We will meet up.

In the meantime... mark is not going to be allowed to help me get there.