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Gregg, You brought up some very valid points in your post.
Did you know that QE 1 floated over 800 billion dollars into the world reserve currency. QE 2 did the same exact thing. Now we are still going on with QE 3, our federal reserve has been printing 80 billion dollars a month. Just recently the policy has backed off by 10 billion dollars a month, so now it is only 70 billion dollars a month.
The general idea is to keep interest rates low on the thought that business can borrow money to CREATE jobs. Since our government keeps telling us there is no inflation every thing is good. Just look at the stock market it has recovered from the lows of 09. Hah... Would you rather have a share of say FORD paying a 3% dividend or put your money in the bank and get NO %?
This is true when you don't include energy or food in the cost of living index.
Gas was just a 1.35 a gallon 5 years ago. Every one has forgotten.

Now really sad and proof of the progressive destruction of the dollar. China and Japan have bypassed the dollar in trading with Russia for oil.

Just as sad... Congress, has finally passed the first budget in 5 years. Blame them all, we should. It is a 1.1 trillion dollar budget being pushed onto the backs of every taxpaying citizen. The real kicker is 330 BILLION ARE PAYMENTS TO CHINA FOR OUR NATIONAL DEBT.

Doesn't any one get that. Doesn't any one realize how many poor people could be helped? Sad.

Gee sheriff, explain to us again why you think LIBOR fraud is not stealing
http://youtu.be/dBBzSVOeRH8

Why are you so silently complacent about the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement that will subordinate the sovereignty of nations (including the US) to corporations?

I already did Vinny... You were asleep at the wheel. That was such a long time ago.
Wow... Now I'm starting to sound like our former secretary of state speaking about benghazi when questioned about why our president did nothing to protect an ambassador from this country.

I did answer this a long time ago Vinny. Libor is a European problem. Why don't you go post some picture and then try to rationally explain why libor is doing the same thing the Federal Reserve is doing here.

LIBOR IS NOT AN AMERICAN PROBLEM.

Nice pu**y picture by the way.

Nice pu**y picture by the way.

That is a male kitten.

It is still one of the nicest pictures you have ever posted. He's really cute.
Damn... I wished my pu**y still looked like that.

( That was one for mark to take all out of context sooner or later )

If Obama had a son who was white???




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That's not true Vinny... At the very least Cruz has not covered up any of the truth that he was not A BORN HERE AMERICAN. He can not and will not lie, like a certain Nigerian born potus.

You don't have to like him personally, and it's fair to disagree with him on issues of policy, but the left can't compete in the arena of fact or fair debate.

No, instead they manipulate people emotionally through ridicule, outright lies, and personal vindictive. They want to destroy a person's character and reputation in an extremely dishonest way, through implying something that they can't prove (because it isn't true).


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Thanks Vinny, for giving a good example of the dishonest way that people are personally attacked by those who don't have facts on their side.


You imply, you mischaracterize, you humiliate, and ridicule....all emotional manipulation because the truth is too hard to deal with. That's stooping pretty low to pick on someone's looks, especially when you won't show your OWN damn picture. Let us see it so we know you aren't a coward, ok?

None of that addresses the issues we're facing in America. If anything, you're helping the works of darkness.

You don't have to like him personally, and it's fair to disagree with him on issues of policy, but the left can't compete in the arena of fact or fair debate.

No, instead they manipulate people emotionally through ridicule, outright lies, and personal vindictive. They want to destroy a person's character and reputation in an extremely dishonest way, through implying something that they can't prove (because it isn't true).


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Thanks Vinny, for giving a good example of the dishonest way that people are personally attacked by those who don't have facts on their side.


You imply, you mischaracterize, you humiliate, and ridicule....all emotional manipulation because the truth is too hard to deal with. That's stooping pretty low to pick on someone's looks, especially when you won't show your OWN damn picture. Let us see it so we know you aren't a coward, ok?

None of that addresses the issues we're facing in America. If anything, you're helping the works of darkness.

If Obama had a son who was white???




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I don't give a damn about mark. He is just a lewd, crude, ignorant, progressive.

"lewd'????

says the hypocrite who's been talking about pu**y!! STILL talking outta both sides of your mouth....and sayin' nuthin.

as for whether you "give a damn" or not about me.....i think we all know how much truth can found found in that lie.

You don't have to like him personally, and it's fair to disagree with him on issues of policy, but the left can't compete in the arena of fact or fair debate.

No, instead they manipulate people emotionally through ridicule, outright lies, and personal vindictive. They want to destroy a person's character and reputation in an extremely dishonest way, through implying something that they can't prove (because it isn't true).


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Thanks Vinny, for giving a good example of the dishonest way that people are personally attacked by those who don't have facts on their side.


You imply, you mischaracterize, you humiliate, and ridicule....all emotional manipulation because the truth is too hard to deal with. That's stooping pretty low to pick on someone's looks, especially when you won't show your OWN damn picture. Let us see it so we know you aren't a coward, ok?

None of that addresses the issues we're facing in America. If anything, you're helping the works of darkness.

If Obama had a son who was white???




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So you're saying this IS your picture??






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You don't have to like him personally, and it's fair to disagree with him on issues of policy, but the left can't compete in the arena of fact or fair debate.

No, instead they manipulate people emotionally through ridicule, outright lies, and personal vindictive. They want to destroy a person's character and reputation in an extremely dishonest way, through implying something that they can't prove (because it isn't true).

Thanks Vinny, for giving a good example of the dishonest way that people are personally attacked by those who don't have facts on their side.


You imply, you mischaracterize, you humiliate, and ridicule....all emotional manipulation because the truth is too hard to deal with. That's stooping pretty low to pick on someone's looks, especially when you won't show your OWN damn picture. Let us see it so we know you aren't a coward, ok?

None of that addresses the issues we're facing in America. If anything, you're helping the works of darkness.

If Obama had a son who was white???

You have no facts on your side so I was just ... "giving a good example of the dishonest way that people are personally attacked by those who don't have facts on their side."

Another question, sorry not related to above post but the topic,
If we owe China so many trillion in debt why do they or any other
Country ,or the Fed keep lending us more?
We can't pay them back what could they want in return ,hmmm

Another question, sorry not related to above post but the topic,
If we owe China so many trillion in debt why do they or any other
Country ,or the Fed keep lending us more?
We can't pay them back what could they want in return ,hmmm

U. S. Congress Representative Louis T. McFadden, Chairman of the Committee on Banking and Currency for 12 years, quoted from the Congressional Record:

"The Federal Reserve Board has cheated the Government of the United States and the people of the United States out of enough money to pay the national debt, Our people's money, to the extend of $1,200,000,000 has within the last few months been shipped abroad to redeem Federal Reserve Notes and to pay other gambling debts of the traitorous Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks ... "

Mr. Chairman, we have in this Country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks, hereinafter called the Fed. The Fed has cheated the Government of these United States and the people of the United States out of enough money to pay the Nation's debt. The depredations and iniquities of the Fed has cost enough money to pay the National debt several times over.

"This evil institution has impoverished and ruined the people of these United States, has bankrupted itself, and has practically bankrupted our Government. It has done this through the defects of the law under which it operates, through the maladministration of that law by the Fed and through the corrupt practices of the moneyed vultures who control it.

"Some people who think that the Federal Reserve Banks United States Government institutions. They are private monopolies which prey upon the people of these United States for the benefit of themselves and their foreign customers; foreign and domestic speculators and swindlers; and rich and predatory money lender. In that dark crew of financial pirates there are those who would cut a man's throat to get a dollar out of his pocket; there are those who send money into states to buy votes to control our legislatures; there are those who maintain International propaganda for the purpose of deceiving us into granting of new concessions which will permit them to cover up their past misdeeds and set again in motion their gigantic train of crime.

"These twelve private credit monopolies were deceitfully and disloyally foisted upon this Country by the bankers who came here from Europe and repaid us our hospitality by undermining our American institutions. Those bankers took money out of this Country to finance Japan in a war against Russia. They created a reign of terror in Russia with our money in order to help that war along. They instigated the separate peace between Germany and Russia, and thus drove a wedge between the allies in World War. They financed Trotsky's passage from New York to Russia so that he might assist in the destruction of the Russian Empire. They fomented and instigated the Russian Revolution, and placed a large fund of American dollars at Trotsky's disposal in one of their branch banks in Sweden so that through him Russian homes might be thoroughly broken up and Russian children flung far and wide from their natural protectors. They have since begun breaking up of American homes and the dispersal of American children. "Mr. Chairman, there should be no partisanship in matters concerning banking and currency affairs in this Country, and I do not speak with any.

"In 1912 the National Monetary Association, under the chairmanship of the late Senator Nelson W. Aldrich, made a report and presented a vicious bill called the National Reserve Association bill. This bill is usually spoken of as the Aldrich bill. Senator Aldrich did not write the Aldrich bill. He was the tool, if not the accomplice, of the European bankers who for nearly twenty years had been scheming to set up a central bank in this Country and who in 1912 has spent and were continuing to spend vast sums of money to accomplish their purpose.

"We were opposed to the Aldrich plan for a central bank. The men who rule the Democratic Party then promised the people that if they were returned to power there would be no central bank established here while they held the reigns of government. Thirteen months later that promise was broken, and the Wilson administration, under the tutelage of those sinister Wall Street figures who stood behind Colonel House, established here in our free Country the worm-eaten monarchical institution of the "King's Bank" to control us from the top downward, and from the cradle to the grave.

Well although Ido believe the Jeckal island story many will say its a
Conspiracy so I was trying to avoid it ,however when Ron Paul finally
Got the audit of the Fed it did reveal contributions to all these private
Banks, JP Morgan ,Goldman Sachs, Chase Manhattan etc to the tune of
About 20 Trillion ,that's in the audit you can look it up. So you covered
That what about China?

Well although Ido believe the Jeckal island story many will say its a
Conspiracy so I was trying to avoid it ,however when Ron Paul finally
Got the audit of the Fed it did reveal contributions to all these private
Banks, JP Morgan ,Goldman Sachs, Chase Manhattan etc to the tune of
About 20 Trillion ,that's in the audit you can look it up. So you covered
That what about China?

US buying their products has built up their economy. It would be an enormous loss to them if the US goes under. So they are biding their time, helping to keep the game going until they can maneuver to a more strategically advantageous position, like a gold backed yuan and expansion into new markets, to weather out a US collapse.

So you believe they would just weather a US colapse if we default on
Our debt to them?

I don't know.
Presently, China's best strategy seems to be to prepare as best they can for the inevitable.