General Music Chat

I think we have to all admit that if we hear someone, wheather it be singing or playing, be it a male or a female, we know when we have seen and heard talent. Some may not be the greatest players or singers , but be a great performer and so they attract an audience that far surpasses that of a great player or singer. I feel that a great talent captures their audience by their ability to entertain. It may be by their perfection or by the sheer enjoyment of watching them sing or play. I hope this makes sense and I am getting across what I mean. Nothing that entertains me more than a great guitar player doing an awesome lead guitar solo because I know I have just seen or heard something great, no matter male or female, handsome, beautiful, or ugly. It still equals = BEAUTIFUL to our ears and maybe our eyes too !!! Right????

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guitargal

GG, you said, " . . . beautiful, or ugly. It still equals = BEAUTIFUL to our ears . . . ."
I agree.

blues challenge in Memphis. The band is Trampled Under Foot. They are fronted by a young female singer who is UNBELIEVABLE. This is a gal you and the world will be hearing about for years to come. Remember that name TRAMPLED UNDER FOOT or TUF for short. Janis Joplin is smiling in heaven. Later...

(rolls eyes)

Move over Pat BeneTard.. lol

We can always count on you to add insightful remarks Captain.

Sex has little to do with musical ability, even in the testosterone-laden waters of rock & roll. I personally know of many female rockers that can hold their own or better with any male rocker. The notion that chicks can't rock like dudes is antiquated and false.

Ann Wilson.....that is all.

Ann Wilson.....that is all.

Probably the greatest ever... Period. *Thinks Heart is awesome*

K. T. Tunstall does some nice stuff, too.

It's an opinion.

You want to build a gallows or can ya take a drink and relax?

(sounds of a rope tightening and the squeak of wood under weight) lol

If you like it that's fine, but you sure as hell are not ramming that crap down my throat.

I like her 'Black Horse & the Cherry Tree,' and 'Suddenly I See.'

You know.. I tend to like female singers that are a little more on the feminine side with their songwriting and delivery..

I'm not completely turned off by rocker girls. When I was younger Lita Ford ruled the rocker-chick world. Remember that song "Close my eyes forever" (or whatever it was called)? You know, the one she did with Ozzy. That was killer.

There were some that really rocked. Obviously the Wilson sisters always come to mind. The rock world has had a few.

But history has shown time and time again, it's the divas that rule.

The rock world hasn't been nearly as lucrative of a career for women as the r&b/soul world, or Country.

Here in Vegas, at the MGM, there was a tribute to some HOFers, and Heart was one of the honorees.

In honor of Heart, Gretchen Wilson (Country artist) did a cover of Barracuda with Alice In Chains, and no offense, but I've NEVER heard that song belted out that good before by anyone. That was the best I've ever heard it sung. And I was just waiting for it to be flawed in some way. Instead I was completely floored.

So it kinda makes you wonder why there aren't very many women gracing the rock world. And to me, I don't think it's a gender displacement thing. I just think it's more of a career choice of which path to go by female artists.

If you've got the pipes, why wouldn't you choose the more lucrative path?

I think someone like Sheryl Crow could've gone either way. She certainly has the pipes to sing anything that is Heavy Metal. But the career path she chose just put her on a different plane.

Alanis Morissette broke into the scene with "you oughta know" which became an anthem for rocker chicks all over the world, but the rest of the album set her up for the real path she was after.

Instead the rocker world gets graced with HOLE... No thanks.

Arch Enemy?? C'mon.. That's just brutally horrid (in my opinion).

I just downloaded Alicia Keys yesterday. I personally would rather hear a female artist in the realm where the gender just shines the most. And the power, conviction, and subtlety behind that girl's voice is freakin' sick..

I'll give Kittie, Flyleaf, Lacuna Coil, and Evanescence their props for choosing their path. But they really don't have the pipes of the divas or top Country artisis.

As far as the hard rock world goes... If there is some sort of gender displacement going on in the rock music world, I would be more inclined to think that it's the female artists choosing to displace themselves from it.


In a general sense.. Nothing is hotter than a hot chick with a good set of pipes and headlights.. So my answer is no.

I'll give Kittie, Flyleaf, Lacuna Coil, and Evanescence their props for choosing their path. But they really don't have the pipes of the divas or top Country artisis.

Hold it! Lol, wait, wait... Forget the Diva chicks, I hate all of them. You can insult all of those bands on there, but not Lacuna Coil! *Shall stand in the way of the onslaught against that band.*

Take a very close listen to that woman's vocals, she can reach the same octave as any "Diva" can, and she sounds better to me, and her music is 100 times better. Divas are annoying, their music genre sucks (I am not into the whole Whitney Houstin, Diana Ross, stuff, yes they have amazing vocals, but bleh). And someone I cannot ever insult, is, Ann Wilson, her voice is completely equal to any one of those divas in my opinion - that woman has the pipes to blow a wine glass I bet.

Just a matter of personal opinion I guess...

*Shrug*

Peace out, GuitarAnatomy.

Good points Shredd
Opinion is the name of the game on forums such as this , but every once in a while we get to read something that "rings of the truth".

You know.. I tend to like female singers that are a little more on the feminine side with their songwriting and delivery..

But history has shown time and time again, it's the divas that rule.

If you've got the pipes, why wouldn't you choose the more lucrative path?

Earlier I said Ann Wilson. IMHO she's the best female rock voice I've heard. If were talking about the best female singer I've ever heard, no matter the genre, it's gotta be Maria Callas, hands down.

Hello to all of you guys. I am a female musician, and I can tell you that I initially do not get the respect that men get. It would be one thing of you hear me and don't like me or we are just not suited stylistically. Most often, I don't even get the chance to be heard. Ironically, I have never been turned down once I am heard and there has been more than one instance in which other auditions for other bass players have been cancelled once I was heard. I wound up with plenty of work despite this. I played in one band where we worked together for over 14 years.

There are a number of reasons that women don't get the respect we deserve. Ironically, I have not encountered as much disrespect from men as I have women. It is usually the wives who don't want me to play, because I am a woman. I have played semi-professionally for over 20 years and never once got involved with anybody else in the band. That is just bad business and a recipe for disaster. Sometimes, other women in the band want to be the only one. Also, more women tend to flock after bands, and naturally, they want to look at guys, even if they can't play as good.

Another reason that women are not considered for the job is that men tend to think that we can't carry our share of the load. This is true to an extent. It is harder for women to lift as much. However, I will tell you this. I have set up the entire stage by myself. The band in which I played was booked in another state. We kept all of our equipment in an 18-foot trailer. The leader got sick and the doctor put him on light duty. So i had to go to his house and hook up the trailer and haul the stuff to our job. My husband and I then unloaded the equipment. There were 4 Peavey 18" subs and 4 Peavey sp-3s, as well as 5 15" monitors. All of the power amps were mounted in one rack. I proceeded to hook up the entire sound system and everyone's personal equipment. This was a seven-piece band. Our steel player and drummer always worked late. They could make it in time for shows but not setup (so I always set up their equpment anyway).

Finally, there are some guys who just can't concede that women can do some things as well as guys can. There is no changing this mindset. It is funny though that many of these guys (mostly other bass players) would come to the shows and criticize my playing. This used to hurt my feelings until I stopped and realized that hey, these guys are always in the audience. Many of these so called musicians, I never even saw on stage. They might have worked occassionally somewhere. I don't know I was always busy working.