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#221584 by jimmydanger
Tue Sep 03, 2013 2:12 pm
Ha ha I guess 90% of Americans are perverts or serial killers then Mike. Sounds right to me.

#221591 by Starfish Scott
Tue Sep 03, 2013 2:50 pm
lol @ Fubama

Is that like FUBU and Obama together? (drum roll and rim shot)

#221596 by jimmydanger
Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:19 pm
Nothing says "I have no point" like making fun of a man's name. The lowest of all lowbrow ad hominem attempts at humor.

#221597 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:29 pm
jimmydanger wrote:McCain and other top Republicans have met with Obama and now have a unified message: we must not ignore the situation in Syria. The Republicans are pushing for more than just punishing Assad, they want a regime change. So now you guys don't have to directly support Obama, your guys are rallying with the President, unless you think McCain is a traitor (I'm waiting for that one Yod).

I hate being right all the time, it's a lonely job lol.




You think that this political theatre is the opposition party being swayed into agreement with Obama? That's all for show. McCain is NOT opposition to Obama and never has been. He has always been a traitor. He was working for/with Obama when he ran in 2008 to ensure the outcome. It would be very foolish to think that either Obama or McCain are interested in doing the right thing. It's always about politics.


In general and for the record, my analysis is that regime change is all that will solve the problem. It's the only option that has any chance of success. We should have done it when Assad's father was in power and slaughtered 33,000 Marianite Christians in Lebanon in a single day. We did absolutely nothing then and we have no real authority to act outraged now as Sunnis fight Shiites, and Baathists, Hezbollah and Al Queda all duke it out. Obama will be helping put into power people who are MUCH worse than the wicked Assad is, if this war could be contained to Syria....but it won't be.

So the real question is whether it will be worth the cost to do that. I don't think you realize the results of what Obama is really contemplating. How is success being defined? A real leader would have already made the case in a convincing way.

But remember this; regime change means WWIII is on, baby.


I'm not for starting WWIII over another dictator murdering his own people. Tell me we're doing it to keep Iran from getting a nuclear bomb and I'll change my mind.

Morsi was murdering christians at will, and allowing the MB to persecute them daily in Eygpt. We did nothing. Literally millions of Egyptians protested in streets against the Muslim Brotherhood's corruption and the military responded to their wish. A few thousand MB sympatizers riot and Obama/McCain go into action to get Morsi out of jail. They are hypocrites of the worst kind.

This upcoming war is about Obama's political future and nothing else. He said there was a red line and now he has to back it up or appear weak. I'd rather him appear weak because he is.

If he weren't so weak, he would not have backed himself into this corner, but here he is and we are all headed to WWIII because he's either (a) incompetent or (b) intends to destroy America anyway.
Last edited by t-Roy and The Smoking Section on Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:06 pm, edited 1 time in total.

#221600 by Slacker G
Tue Sep 03, 2013 4:36 pm
jimmydanger wrote:Nothing says "I have no point" like making fun of a man's name. The lowest of all lowbrow ad hominem attempts at humor.


Not really jimmy.... you have to read the links like a big boy and then you won't miss the whole point of the post. :)

#221601 by jimmydanger
Tue Sep 03, 2013 5:04 pm
I dismiss anyone who uses stupid names like "fubama", it just shows you have nothing to say.

Meanwhile, the House is backing Obama. Bet you never thought you's see the day when Boehner and Pelosi were on the same side.

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/obam ... index.html

#221603 by Cajundaddy
Tue Sep 03, 2013 5:23 pm
Follow the money. Who stands to gain by intervention in Syria. Certainly not us musicians.

#221604 by VinnyViolin
Tue Sep 03, 2013 5:41 pm
jimmydanger wrote:Meanwhile, the House is backing Obama. Bet you never thought you's see the day when Boehner and Pelosi were on the same side.

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/obam ... index.html


Actually I find it laughable that you could still think they represent opposing sides :lol:
They both probably have their retirement packages invested in the same stocks.

#221606 by jimmydanger
Tue Sep 03, 2013 5:46 pm
Probably they do. And they're probably the same ones most of us are invested in. Really doesn't say much.

#221619 by Starfish Scott
Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:57 pm
RELEASE THE HOUNDS and jimmy.. lol

#221633 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Wed Sep 04, 2013 12:24 am
One question?... Where is the outrage from the rest of the world?
I'm not downplaying this. This is not a racial issue. This is a perfect example of man against humanity.

Why are we the last bastion of people that oppose absolute tyranny, yet we allow the rest of the world to turn their backs.

This is becoming the biggest B.S. I have ever seen.

All of you are right in the comments I read.

Every one loses.

Thank God,,, for God.

#221663 by Slacker G
Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:59 pm
In the last 20 years millions upon millions of men women and CHILDREN have been tortured and murdered by dictators through out the world. Most would most likely preferred to be killed quickly through chemical weapons as opposed to being tortured to death.

So why this intervention that is minuscule compared to other events of similar nature? Could it be because fubama has been wanting any excuse to depose this governing group of radicals with another group of radicals ? And he wants to replace them with the people who brought us 9/11? And the brain dead uninformed are all for that? We want to replace them with people who believe it is godly to strap bombs to them selves and blow up innocent people because of their beliefs?

Get real fubama drones. Here is a list of dictators that have murdered millions. Of which of them did we go to war simply because of the murder and torture that they were committing? Yes, drones, absolutely NONE OF THEM.

So now it is coincidence that our imperial president wants to support the very people who actually attacked us on 9/11.

Here is the list.

The worst genocides of the 20th and 21st Centuries
by Piero Scaruffi

TM, ®, Copyright © 2009 Piero Scaruffi All rights reserved.
Here is a tentative list of modern mass murderers and the estimated number of people killed by their orders (excluding enemy armies). In many cases (notably Stalin's and Mao's cases) one has to decide how to consider the millions who died indirectly because of their political decisions. The Chinese cultural revolution caused the death of 30 million people (according to the current Chinese government), but many died of hunger. Stalin is held responsible for the death of millions by Ukrainians, but "only" half a million people were killed by his order. Khomeini sent children to die in the war against Iraq, but it was a war.
Read the bottom of this page for frequently asked questions on controversial actions such as the atomic bombs, the Iraqi war, etc (that always involve the current superpower and usually the current president of that superpower).
I welcome feedback if i forgot anything or posted the wrong data, but please always provide reliable sources: webpages are gossips, not sources (and the worst one is Wikipedia, edited by anonymous people). Reliable sources are books written by professional historians who spent decades researching the event.
An impressive number of readers don't seem to know what "20th century" means and keep sending me emails about the Atlantic slave trade, the Native Americans, the Irish famine, etc. See also Wars and Casualties of the 20th and 21st Century.

Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50) 49-78,000,000
Adolf Hitler (Germany, 1939-1945) 12,000,000 (concentration camps and civilians deliberately killed in WWII plus 3 million Russian POWs left to die)
Leopold II of Belgium (Congo, 1886-1908) 8,000,000
Jozef Stalin (USSR, 1932-39) 7,000,000 (the gulags plus the purges plus Ukraine's famine)
Hideki Tojo (Japan, 1941-44) 5,000,000 (civilians in WWII)
Ismail Enver (Ottoman Turkey, 1915-20) 1,200,000 Armenians (1915) + 350,000 Greek Pontians and 480,000 Anatolian Greeks (1916-22) + 500,000 Assyrians (1915-20)
Pol Pot (Cambodia, 1975-79) 1,700,000
Kim Il Sung (North Korea, 1948-94) 1.6 million (purges and concentration camps)
Menghistu (Ethiopia, 1975-78) 1,500,000
Yakubu Gowon (Biafra, 1967-1970) 1,000,000
Leonid Brezhnev (Afghanistan, 1979-1982) 900,000
Jean Kambanda (Rwanda, 1994) 800,000
Saddam Hussein (Iran 1980-1990 and Kurdistan 1987-88) 600,000
Tito (Yugoslavia, 1945-1980) 570,000
Suharto/Soeharto (Indonesian communists 1965-66) 500,000
Fumimaro Konoe (Japan, 1937-39) 500,000? (Chinese civilians)
Jonas Savimbi - but disputed by recent studies (Angola, 1975-2002) 400,000
Mullah Omar - Taliban (Afghanistan, 1986-2001) 400,000
Idi Amin (Uganda, 1969-1979) 300,000
Yahya Khan (Pakistan, 1970-71) 300,000 (Bangladesh)
Ante Pavelic (Croatia, 1941-45) 359,000 (30,000 Jews, 29,000 Gipsies, 300,000 Serbs)
Benito Mussolini (Ethiopia, 1936; Libya, 1934-45; Yugoslavia, WWII) 300,000
Mobutu Sese Seko (Zaire, 1965-97) ?
Charles Taylor (Liberia, 1989-1996) 220,000
Foday Sankoh (Sierra Leone, 1991-2000) 200,000
Suharto (Aceh, East Timor, New Guinea, 1975-98) 200,000
Ho Chi Min (Vietnam, 1953-56) 200,000
Michel Micombero (Burundi, 1972) 150,000
Slobodan Milosevic (Yugoslavia, 1992-99) 100,000
Hassan Turabi (Sudan, 1989-1999) 100,000
Jean-Bedel Bokassa (Centrafrica, 1966-79) ?
Richard Nixon (Vietnam, 1969-1974) 70,000 (Vietnamese and Cambodian civilians)
Efrain Rios Montt - but disputed by recent studies (Guatemala, 1982-83) 70,000
Papa Doc Duvalier (Haiti, 1957-71) 60,000
Rafael Trujillo (Dominican Republic, 1930-61) 50,000
Bashir Assad (Syria, 2012-13) 50,000
Francisco Macias Nguema (Equatorial Guinea, 1969-79) 50,000
Hissene Habre (Chad, 1982-1990) 40,000
Chiang Kai-shek (Taiwan, 1947) 30,000 (popular uprising)
Vladimir Ilich Lenin (USSR, 1917-20) 30,000 (dissidents executed)
Francisco Franco (Spain) 30,000 (dissidents executed after the civil war)
Fidel Castro (Cuba, 1959-1999) 30,000
Lyndon Johnson (Vietnam, 1963-1968) 30,000
Maximiliano Hernandez Martinez (El Salvador, 1932) 30,000
Hafez Al-Assad (Syria, 1980-2000) 25,000
Khomeini (Iran, 1979-89) 20,000
Robert Mugabe (Zimbabwe, 1982-87, Ndebele minority) 20,000
Rafael Videla (Argentina, 1976-83) 13,000
Guy Mollet (France, 1956-1957) 10,000 (war in Algeria)
Harold McMillans (Britain, 1952-56, Kenya's Mau-Mau rebellion) 10,000
Paul Koroma (Sierra Leone, 1997) 6,000
Osama Bin Laden (worldwide, 1993-2001) 3,500
Augusto Pinochet (Chile, 1973) 3,000

It is the drones who should have asked Dorthy for brains, not the scarecrow.

#221667 by jimmydanger
Wed Sep 04, 2013 4:32 pm
The "very people who attacked us on 9/11" are dead Rushclone. When it comes to genocides and civil wars, we've tried to stay out of them unless chemical, biological or nuclear weapons are involved. And I'm quite positive none of the people who were asphyxiated by sarin gas would have preferred it to any other method of horrible death.

And it's Dorothy, not Dorthy.

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