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#220989 by jw123
Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:38 pm
Mike I know you are the guru on pedals around here.

Im using a Tube Screamer, Ive had it for years, I also put a Rocktron Black Jack Booster/Distortion pedal on my board, they both work great for what I want.

I just bought a Octave Fuzz pedal. It can be set for either Octave or Fuzz, oddly when I set it on Octave(which is why I got the pedal, looking for that Hendrixy tone) I cant really distinguish the octave in the sound, it just goes muddy. This is the Fulltone version of the old old pedal all the stars used to use.

Can you give me any info on how to use this pedal?

Or the differences in it and say my tube screamer?

Thanks

#220994 by Starfish Scott
Thu Aug 22, 2013 2:19 pm
All i can say about octavia's is that you play them mostly over the 12th fret and complicated chords are not a great idea.

http://www.thegearpage.net/board/archiv ... 09783.html

That might help..

#221011 by jw123
Thu Aug 22, 2013 4:44 pm
Thanks Capt, yea the little manual that came with it said to play the neck pickup and pick lightly right over the pickup, and play around the 12th fret area.

Ive actually been useing my whammy pedal for an octave up deal, and with it you hear the octave whereas with this pedal, you dont really hear the octave, just some higher range white noise, which is what its supposed to do I guess, I thought it would get the sound like The end of All Along The Watchtower when Hendrix hits those high notes, its just not getting the sound I thought it would, guess I should have tryed it out, I got it at GC and you can return them so I may have to get something different. I cant plug it into my power supply on my board because it is wired with backwards to how my power supply is set up, in the manaul it says to be careful, cause if I plug it in, it could roast it.

I know Mikey on here is the pedal guy so maybe he will come along and enlighten us on different distortion and fuzz pedals.

4 years ago I hardly used a distortion pedal, but Im finding that setting them right is almost like haveing some more channels on the amp. Plus I can get that sound that just oooooozes out for days on power chords, man I love distortion, all forms of it!

#221033 by mistermikev
Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:36 pm
hello,

I'm honored.
without the signal boost of the gain stage (and the "squareness" of the distorted wave) the octave really becomes lost. A tube screamer doesn't clip the wave nearly as much so it's harder for the octave to track as well. You could try modding the tube screamer with some diodes that might clip it differently, or

you can try running a boost (or the ts at high volume) into the octavia to try to max your signal, then use the output vol of the ocavia to bring it back down.

sounds like afa power it's pnp pos ground and NO do not power it on the same power supply as other devices or you will likely be sorry. There are versions that are neg ground, I make one that way myself but traditionalists might say you can't get "that sound" w/o pos ground...
judge for yourself:
http://skullytonefx.com/demos.php
thai cobra demo or check the hendrix fire demo half way down right hand side.

#221235 by jw123
Mon Aug 26, 2013 2:19 pm
Mikey I think Im just taking the pedal back, I didnt even put it on my board this weekend, but Ive played with it at home, and its just not getting the sound I wanted, so Im gonna go for some sort of guitar synth sounding pedal.

This new group we are doing some old dance funk stuff and I need something cool to wake it up a little bit.

So the search continues.........

#221245 by mistermikev
Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:14 pm
well, the octavia is def not for everyone.

there are a lot of great synth type pedals out there... hope you find what yer lookin' for.

cheers,

#221268 by jw123
Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:44 pm
I took it back in at lunch, I just took a store credit, I got a new Ibanez RG with locking trem, and I dropped the tuning a half step and of course the thing is going out of tune, actually it goes slightly sharp, so I left it to get a set up.

Mike what would be an interesting pedal to get a thick moogy sound out of a guitar, I want something small, those big ole E H pedals just take up too much board space, something that is simple but gives a crazy spacey sound.

#221285 by J-HALEY
Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:24 am
John I have a BB Preamp made by Xotic effects that does that! It sounds especially great with those 6L6 tubes in your Boogies! Andy Timmons has a video on YouTube demoing them.
Below is a link of the video.
http://youtu.be/SiW22O914Cg

#221298 by mistermikev
Tue Aug 27, 2013 2:20 am
It's always difficult to suggest a pedal because words can be so subjective but I assume based on your prior comments you are looking for "synthy" type sounds so...

the boss syb-5 is for bass but I played one a long time ago and loved it for guitar... given it's for bass it may not track 100% perfect but it's really got some fat synthetic sounds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2n7W_GobQA

I have a digitech synth wah (made for gtr) and that's a lot of fun too if you are looking for "weird" stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIj7rlWC4AY

honsetly the eh pog and microsynth are really cool but expensive and as you mentioned they take up a lot of real-estate - especially considering how much use that type of pedal would get on my board.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFxaIAP5mjA

if you just want a great octave pedal... the boss oc 1 is small and sounds really good. has a trademark warble on anything below a low a
(I like the digitech harmony/oct stuff but it's not as warm IMO)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-k5ePcnRhc

ampeg scrambler or the myriad of clones is a neat deal. wild octave fuzz
ffwd to about 1:44
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmSeu1RJ2Qs

dan armstrong green ringer is a lot like an octavia but a bit more pronounced. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTzD5ctEHvc

moog actually makes some really nice pedals but they are expensive and huge.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JssVPfLNcTk

mutron stuff is very cool:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYUPH69I8wc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcvI6hmRiHY
my fav:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghd8uzBwkXM


very strange and not well known the bronx cheer!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQraBjvOPlE

about all I can think of at present

#221299 by mistermikev
Tue Aug 27, 2013 2:22 am
It's always difficult to suggest a pedal because words can be so subjective but I assume based on your prior comments you are looking for "synthy" type sounds so...

the boss syb-5 is for bass but I played one a long time ago and loved it for guitar... given it's for bass it may not track 100% perfect but it's really got some fat synthetic sounds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2n7W_GobQA

I have a digitech synth wah (made for gtr) and that's a lot of fun too if you are looking for "weird" stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIj7rlWC4AY

honsetly the eh pog and microsynth are really cool but expensive and as you mentioned they take up a lot of real-estate - especially considering how much use that type of pedal would get on my board.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFxaIAP5mjA

if you just want a great octave pedal... the boss oc 1 is small and sounds really good. has a trademark warble on anything below a low a
(I like the digitech harmony/oct stuff but it's not as warm IMO)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-k5ePcnRhc

ampeg scrambler or the myriad of clones is a neat deal. wild octave fuzz
ffwd to about 1:44
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmSeu1RJ2Qs

dan armstrong green ringer is a lot like an octavia but a bit more pronounced. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTzD5ctEHvc

moog actually makes some really nice pedals but they are expensive and huge.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JssVPfLNcTk

mutron stuff is very cool:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYUPH69I8wc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcvI6hmRiHY
my fav:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghd8uzBwkXM


very strange and not well known the bronx cheer!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQraBjvOPlE

about all I can think of at present

#221304 by jw123
Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:24 pm
Thanks Mike I will browse thru these and see if I can find something, I just want something like one of those old envelop filters that fattens up the notes and gives it that old Parliment Funk sounds.

You the man when it comes to pedals around here, hell maybe you could make a small unit for me? That fulltone pedal was in a real small package, so that interested me, like you said its a pedal I will only use sparingly, so I hate to tie the real estate up.

#221313 by J-HALEY
Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:33 pm
jw123 wrote:Thanks Mike I will browse thru these and see if I can find something, I just want something like one of those old envelop filters that fattens up the notes and gives it that old Parliment Funk sounds.

You the man when it comes to pedals around here, hell maybe you could make a small unit for me? That fulltone pedal was in a real small package, so that interested me, like you said its a pedal I will only use sparingly, so I hate to tie the real estate up.


John, you can always get a bigger board or start a 2cd one and connect them! :lol:

#221320 by mistermikev
Tue Aug 27, 2013 3:19 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lijG8hw2-nk
hehe, how could I forget the foxx tone machine?

I like haley's suggestion to expand your board... we all NEED hundreds of pedals! "one of everything please".

not much is known (afa I know) about eddies setup (pfunk) but he was influenced by hendrix so we can probably surmise the usual suspects:
fuzz face, marshal, wah, octavia, uni-vibe

univibe yielding that strange "wetness" often heard by the h-man:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc6380UeQEY

#221340 by jw123
Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:11 pm
Was the univibe what Hendrix used on Machine Gun?

I kinda liked that sound, not really synthy, but cool none the less

#221342 by J-HALEY
Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:18 pm
Robin Trower used a univibe also I am pretty sure thats what he used on Day Of The Eagle?

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