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#219413 by J-HALEY
Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:50 pm
Dane Ellis Allen wrote:exploitation of Mexicans is all you guys wish for.. they deserve better treatment then they are now receiving.. America is a racist country...always has been..


Dane if you like them so much feel free to go down to Mexico and live there you traitor! You are a disgrace to this country it's a$$holes like you that are dragging the U.S. down. You talk out of both sides of your piehole son. You exploit their labor and use the sh!t out of them. Then you talk down to us and call your fellow countrymen racist. You are a hypocrite of the WORST kind! :lol:

#219419 by MikeTalbot
Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:08 pm
Dane

What nonsense. We don't need to treat anybody any particular way. Hispanics who already live here agree.

Mexican immigrants who arrive legally agree.

Border jumpers are illegal immigrants and we owe them exactly nothing. I don't hate them - hell, I don't even blame them. But they are lawbreakers and should be sent home.

Consider a quote by Frederick Douglas when asked what govt should do for the 'negro.' "Nothing!", he replied. "Stop 'doing' for us and leave us alone! You've done enough already!"

Talbot

#219420 by Slacker G
Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:12 pm
J-HALEY wrote:
Dane Ellis Allen wrote:exploitation of Mexicans is all you guys wish for.. they deserve better treatment then they are now receiving.. America is a racist country...always has been..


Dane if you like them so much feel free to go down to Mexico and live there you traitor! You are a disgrace to this country it's a$$holes like you that are dragging the U.S. down. You talk out of both sides of your piehole son. You exploit their labor and use the sh!t out of them. Then you talk down to us and call your fellow countrymen racist. You are a hypocrite of the WORST kind! :lol:


Exactly. These are the types of people that are willing to piss on the graves of the servicemen and women who fought and died to protect the freedom they now enjoy. Unfortunately these are the ignorant traitors that are selling out the future and inheritance of our children to the lawless.

#219510 by Starfish Scott
Tue Jul 23, 2013 10:02 pm
Yup-Yup, you know what the best to immigrate to the USA is?

JOIN THE MILITARY !!!!!!

They'll fix you up right..

#219615 by DainNobody
Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:27 pm
J-HALEY wrote:
Dane Ellis Allen wrote:exploitation of Mexicans is all you guys wish for.. they deserve better treatment then they are now receiving.. America is a racist country...always has been..


Dane if you like them so much feel free to go down to Mexico and live there you traitor! You are a disgrace to this country it's a$$holes like you that are dragging the U.S. down. You talk out of both sides of your piehole son. You exploit their labor and use the sh!t out of them. Then you talk down to us and call your fellow countrymen racist. You are a hypocrite of the WORST kind! :lol:
really HALEY's comet? you stoop that low cause I respect Mexicans?

#219616 by DainNobody
Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:30 pm
Slacker G wrote:
J-HALEY wrote:
Dane Ellis Allen wrote:exploitation of Mexicans is all you guys wish for.. they deserve better treatment then they are now receiving.. America is a racist country...always has been..


Dane if you like them so much feel free to go down to Mexico and live there you traitor! You are a disgrace to this country it's a$$holes like you that are dragging the U.S. down. You talk out of both sides of your piehole son. You exploit their labor and use the sh!t out of them. Then you talk down to us and call your fellow countrymen racist. You are a hypocrite of the WORST kind! :lol:


Exactly. These are the types of people that are willing to piss on the graves of the servicemen and women who fought and died to protect the freedom they now enjoy. Unfortunately these are the ignorant traitors that are selling out the future and inheritance of our children to the lawless.
Slacker, I'm a traitor because of my opinion?.. just because you are the best guitarist in this forum does not give you the right to say I'm a traitor? does it?

#219625 by MikeTalbot
Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:39 pm
Dane

As M. Talleyrand put it - "Treason is a thing of dates..." He would have known. (served both Bonaparte and Louis the Fat King)

The decline of American culture has many of us outraged and frightened. We were born into a country that ostensibly stood for rule of law - a Republic that had a pretty good constitution the goal of which was to clearly define what Govt could do legally. Where you could walk the streets at night and they didn't hand out condoms at high schools. Small army, lots of armed citizens.

What was the FedGov to do? Not much if you read the doc. Power was to be in the hands of the states and people. It was diversity at it's best - if you didn't like NY you could move to GA and vise versa.

Wow the schools all teach the same nonsense and we are ruled from a corrupt city state that conducts itself in a way that rivals the worst debauchery of old and exudes a contempt for the people that is downright visceral.

In my / our lifetime we have gone from rule of law to cultural Marxist encouraged 'feelings.' Yeah, to some it apparently feels good to give lots of nonexistent money (we're broke you know) to people who crossed our border illegally.

Those of us with the sense to oppose this are called racists which frosts me a good deal. A guy asked me if I hated Mexicans - I replied, "What are their names?!" you can't hate a whole race - you don't know them.

However, you can have an informed opinion and stick to it. And regarding 'traitor' think how some must view those of you who claim to have examined the bill, and know that we are tottering on the edge of bankruptcy, and who are aware that the one thing this country has a lot of is out of work, unskilled workers - and yet want us to favor illegal aliens against common sense and law.

For folks who are either Marxists or simply making their calls based upon 'feelings' it has hard not to resent them I can tell you. One huge reason I trust neither left nor right is that they are all lying and all paying lip service to the same bullshit.

There is a way to change the constitution - nobody has even suggested that. So we got abortion, homosexual marriage, demographically loaded legal immigration since 1965, the open southern border, the drug war, the war on poverty and roughly fifteen shooting wars in my lifetime (with no declaration). Did we want all that? Not many of us, I can tell you.

Perhaps worst of all, as govt, business and media encourage the low end of society in their imagined grievances we now have a huge, simmering element of armed ferals with attitude problems.

Meantime, back at the dichotomy - the govt pushes 'common sense gun control,' and we look at that and think - you are either insane or yes, traitors. Because that is never pointed at the criminal element - but at the working man who is not shooting anybody.

So the constitution is an old joke - just a piece of paper. Since it was ignored / overthrown we are in fact, the victims of a coup. The word treason will be heard more and more as we go 'forward.'

I personally like to avoid name calling - my temper is not my friend. But on forums all over the country people are just getting more and more angry.
What's coming is terrible - but I don't see how we will avoid it.

Talbot

#219662 by Slacker G
Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:06 pm
Dane Ellis Allen wrote:
Slacker G wrote:
J-HALEY wrote:
Dane Ellis Allen wrote:exploitation of Mexicans is all you guys wish for.. they deserve better treatment then they are now receiving.. America is a racist country...always has been..


Dane if you like them so much feel free to go down to Mexico and live there you traitor! You are a disgrace to this country it's a$$holes like you that are dragging the U.S. down. You talk out of both sides of your piehole son. You exploit their labor and use the sh!t out of them. Then you talk down to us and call your fellow countrymen racist. You are a hypocrite of the WORST kind! :lol:


Exactly. These are the types of people that are willing to piss on the graves of the servicemen and women who fought and died to protect the freedom they now enjoy. Unfortunately these are the ignorant traitors that are selling out the future and inheritance of our children to the lawless.
Slacker, I'm a traitor because of my opinion?.. just because you are the best guitarist in this forum does not give you the right to say I'm a traitor? does it?


Dane,

We have a tyrannical regime in power at this time. They are unparalleled in their lawlessness and their destruction of our constitution and freedom all the while ruling against the will of the people.

The amnesty bill was written, not by the lying "gang of eight" but rather the Tan Klan, LARAZA, and it spits in the face of both legalized Mexicans and all other Americans who detest lawlessness. America can only function through the set of rules that established it. Persons in power are no longer abiding by those rules that and this shall cause the collapse of our society.

To side with tyrants in their lawlessness, tyrants that wish to take our constitution and bill of rights from us, is to be numbered as one with them. When these tyrants swore an oath to protect and keep our borders secure they instead desired to destroy us and ignore their oaths of office. When you side with those attempting to overthrow America and destroy our freedom, you are to be counted as one with them. Simple as that.

Every service man or women who fought to keep our country free are as nothing to tyrants. In truth, they are despised by them. These people destroying the American way of life from inside are no less evil than the Nazis who tried to rule the world from outside. These people hate America and have vowed to change it even though they are the minority. These people are corrupt to the core, and those who side with them are them. This "Amnesty legislation" is lawlessness and it is against the will of the majority of the people, just as is the health care bill. All this legislation is to remove our liberty and rights from us and replace that with an imperial president dictator..

#219665 by J-HALEY
Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:34 pm
Dane Ellis Allen wrote:
J-HALEY wrote:
Dane Ellis Allen wrote:exploitation of Mexicans is all you guys wish for.. they deserve better treatment then they are now receiving.. America is a racist country...always has been..


Dane if you like them so much feel free to go down to Mexico and live there you traitor! You are a disgrace to this country it's a$$holes like you that are dragging the U.S. down. You talk out of both sides of your piehole son. You exploit their labor and use the sh!t out of them. Then you talk down to us and call your fellow countrymen racist. You are a hypocrite of the WORST kind! :lol:
really HALEY's comet? you stoop that low cause I respect Mexicans?

You said in another post you were going to hire a Mexican framing crew. The Only reason a white boy hires a Mex. framing crew is because they do it cheaper which means you want to exploit them! I have seen @ssholes like you all my life. I have no problem with them coming to this country in fact I welcome it. I do however have a problem with a group of people that break the law and come here to exploit our economy and at the same time telling me they are better than me and trying to turn the US into the same sh!thole they left! If you respect that then I say your a Dumb@ss!

#219669 by DainNobody
Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:47 pm
J-HALEY wrote:
Dane Ellis Allen wrote:
J-HALEY wrote:
Dane Ellis Allen wrote:exploitation of Mexicans is all you guys wish for.. they deserve better treatment then they are now receiving.. America is a racist country...always has been..


Dane if you like them so much feel free to go down to Mexico and live there you traitor! You are a disgrace to this country it's a$$holes like you that are dragging the U.S. down. You talk out of both sides of your piehole son. You exploit their labor and use the sh!t out of them. Then you talk down to us and call your fellow countrymen racist. You are a hypocrite of the WORST kind! :lol:
really HALEY's comet? you stoop that low cause I respect Mexicans?

You said in another post you were going to hire a Mexican framing crew. The Only reason a white boy hires a Mex. framing crew is because they do it cheaper which means you want to exploit them! I have seen @ssholes like you all my life. I have no problem with them coming to this country in fact I welcome it. I do however have a problem with a group of people that break the law and come here to exploit our economy and at the same time telling me they are better than me and trying to turn the US into the same sh!thole they left! If you respect that then I say your a Dumb@ss!
who can win an argument with a know-it-all.. seems I'm gonna give up, and pull a PaperDog

#219670 by Deadguitars
Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:30 pm
So whats the Righty's plan ?
Who has the cash to capture / detain / feed / prosecute / deport 12 million people ?
Can Righty snap their fingers and make them disappear ?
All you will get from Righty is slogans and platitudes

:)

#219671 by gtZip
Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:34 pm
Texas has the cash

#219673 by Starfish Scott
Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:59 pm
He who has the gold makes the rules..

#219678 by Slacker G
Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:35 pm
Deadguitars wrote:So whats the Righty's plan ?
Who has the cash to capture / detain / feed / prosecute / deport 12 million people ?
Can Righty snap their fingers and make them disappear ?
All you will get from Righty is slogans and platitudes

:)


Why do lefties always come up with the same lame old lame arguments time after time?

We already have laws on the books that forbid hiring illegals. Put that into practice by penalizing employers that hire them and things will turn around. Not only that but the wages of American workers wouldn't keel taking a nose dive.

No jobs no come here. They will get home on their own just as they came. Maybe if it wasn't so easy to break our laws they would band together to fix their laws and make their own country better.

There are many other laws on the books that are not enforced that would stop them from sneaking into America. Close the borders. During the LAST amnesty bill they swore that they would do just that.

Lowering the standard of living for Americans and taking jobs from them is not the way to go. Taxing American workers to provide benefits for illegals is criminal. 80% of illegals are on the government dole one way or another already. The working taxpayer does not have any more money to piss away on illegals. All the need do is to do what is fair. Enforce the laws on the books and only admit immigrants that wish to come here legally. When you come to America legally it costs you more, you appreciate it more, and you contribute more to the American society. These illegals do not respect our country, our language or our laws and custom.

There are already cities in America where English is almost a second language. That is NOT immigration, that is occupation.

#219680 by J-HALEY
Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:39 pm
Dane Ellis Allen wrote:
J-HALEY wrote:
Dane Ellis Allen wrote:
J-HALEY wrote:
Dane Ellis Allen wrote:exploitation of Mexicans is all you guys wish for.. they deserve better treatment then they are now receiving.. America is a racist country...always has been..


Dane if you like them so much feel free to go down to Mexico and live there you traitor! You are a disgrace to this country it's a$$holes like you that are dragging the U.S. down. You talk out of both sides of your piehole son. You exploit their labor and use the sh!t out of them. Then you talk down to us and call your fellow countrymen racist. You are a hypocrite of the WORST kind! :lol:
really HALEY's comet? you stoop that low cause I respect Mexicans?

You said in another post you were going to hire a Mexican framing crew. The Only reason a white boy hires a Mex. framing crew is because they do it cheaper which means you want to exploit them! I have seen @ssholes like you all my life. I have no problem with them coming to this country in fact I welcome it. I do however have a problem with a group of people that break the law and come here to exploit our economy and at the same time telling me they are better than me and trying to turn the US into the same sh!thole they left! If you respect that then I say your a Dumb@ss!
who can win an argument with a know-it-all.. seems I'm gonna give up, and pull a PaperDog
Dane I don't want you to go anywhere. I know you are a decent person and in spite of what you believe I don't think I'm better than anyone. Thanks for the compliment regarding my playing. I am simply I guy that works his ass off at everything I do and I have earned what I am and have. You lefties put your opinions out there so don't get your feelings hurt when us righties do the same! The current administration is racist and dividing the people in this country for a reason and I for one think it's time for ALL OF US to get our heads out of our ass's and speak the truth! The country is being systematically changed and I for one really don't recognize this place called the US anymore it is COMPLETELY being changed! IMO what you lefties don't understand is that when THEY are done with us they are gonna make changes you don't like either just my 2 cents. :shock:

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