General Music Chat

1) If two people get 'married' - what difference does it make to you if they are the same or different gender?
2) How does it affect you, personally, in any way?

Let me ask you something along those lines to illustrate how gay marriage cheapens the unique & special commitment between a man and a woman to raise children.

I'm not against anyone having the same civil rights as me, but I am for holding my wife, and therefore our marriage, in very high regard for the sake of society. Gay marriage is a corrupt mockery of that. It's simply not a natural family unit.

To simplify the analogy, let me ask you this: If people start thinking of kareoke as "music" how does that affect you personally as a musician?

It hurts for the same reason murder, theft, fornication, adultery, greed,or any other crime against God, hurts.
Homosexuality is wrong for the same reason murder is.
Because He, from whom all morality comes, said so.
Therefor any people whom intentionally live outside His will . . . will be punished. I / we all continually sin against God. The distinction lay in our intentions.
Irregardless of "salvation" sin has inescapable consequences.
The more I confess, and repent of my own, the more I can look into my life and ( very painfully ) see how it has affected, and continues to affect, my life, my children, and my whole environment.

This is quite simply the TRUTH.
Choosing to, or not to believe / agree with it.
Does not change it.

It's why I continue share it, despite continued harassment from "the world" and even my own flesh .
When one chooses to open ones eyes, and look to the Father, the Light will come in.
The Light does not remove the skeletons from my closet.
( except in the Lord's eyes because he forgives what I confess and repent of )
IT does make them very plain to see.

Brother, we can't expect someone who doesn't have that revelation to understand. Pagans will be pagans and that is how it should be. There are too many camoflauged pagans in the church.

So saying "God says so" only divides us further from being able to reason with people who are looking for answers. We should be explaining "why" God said so. It is not to punish or judge us, but rather to protect and bless us.

Explain that and our friends here might understand. They will at least respect you for trying to help everyone.

Homosexuals have, on average, a very short life span. It would be so great if they could really find the purpose of life and be blessed with long and abundant life.





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I fully understand. I am a passionate man and given to speak what is revealed to me.
Understanding, acceptance, that is the work of the Spirit.
I am but a fallible sinful servant of my Lord.

Maybe this will help?

http://youtu.be/TtO9BHvAkxY

Justify your beliefs all you want with God talk, but you still never answered the questions.

And to answer the question posed to me: yes, karaoke is music. Mostly-instrumental with someone singing (most times badly) over it. Doesn't mean I have to listen to it or like it - as a mature adult, I don't have to foster a hate campaign against it because of that.

Justify your beliefs all you want with God talk, but you still never answered the questions.

And to answer the question posed to me: yes, karaoke is music. Mostly-instrumental with someone singing (most times badly) over it. Doesn't mean I have to listen to it or like it - as a mature adult, I don't have to foster a hate campaign against it because of that.

Who said anything about hate except you?


Kareoke is not music...it's someone pretending to be a musician. They neither create it, nor sustain it. By the very definition of what they do, it is a mockery of musicians.

I don't hate them. They have every right to pretend. But it's not creating music, and now kareoke has almost killed performing bands and taken all the venues that used to pay us to create something which sustained music going forward.

If it continues to grow there will be less real music created for them to pretend with. In a very tangible way, it has cheapened what real music is....and hurt our bottom line while doing so.




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Justify your beliefs all you want with God talk, but you still never answered the questions.

And to answer the question posed to me: yes, karaoke is music. Mostly-instrumental with someone singing (most times badly) over it. Doesn't mean I have to listen to it or like it - as a mature adult, I don't have to foster a hate campaign against it because of that.

Who said anything about hate except you?


Kareoke is not music...it's someone pretending to be a musician. They neither create it, nor sustain it. By the very definition of what they do, it is a mockery of musicians.

I don't hate them. They have every right to pretend. But it's not creating music, and now kareoke has almost killed performing bands and taken all the venues that used to pay us to create something which sustained music going forward.

If it continues to grow there will be less real music created for them to pretend with. In a very tangible way, it has cheapened what real music is....and hurt our bottom line while doing so.




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Someone once told me that Kareoke is Japanese for off pitch. Anyone know for sure?

One time we had something fall through, and really wanted to play out that night, so we called around some bars and found out what they had going on - told them we were on the road and looking for a place before our show the next day, and it was free.
One place sent the DJ home and had us come down.

Take that, suckers!

But I digress.

Everyone dislikes a homosexual, but they all love lesbians.

Especially "lesbian stripper women"..Woooo.. lol

Everyone dislikes a homosexual, but the all love lesbians.

Especially "lesbian stripper women"..Woooo.. lol

Scott I don't dislike homosexuals... I just don't like a small part of the population, trying to ram something down my throat... Telling me I am immoral for not accepting it as normal and then screaming discrimination and how fuuccckkkeeeddd up that I am.

Even worse is when you have college educated asssholes dictating their moral objectives and beliefs.

Now let me put it another way... Guns...

Guns are good. Guns are especially good when some needs killing. Killing is totally immoral under Gods law... Under mans law it is sometimes necessary to kill. Under that scenario every one should be expected to have, and know how to use a gun.
This is the same as simple tolerance.

Is there anyone else smart enough to follow the twisted pretzel logic that is becoming the rule of America? Jimmy... You are looking old.

I always say that "if people are cool and they don't hit on you when they know your straight, who cares">?

But the marriage thing? I am a little sketchy on that in general.

Reminds me of "I now pronounce you Chuck and Larry".. lol
(A. Sandler)

I always say that "if people are cool and they don't hit on you when they know your straight, who cares">?

I was once naive enough to spend a couple of hours in a bar in Bristol England before I realized it was a gay bar, I was actually a little disappointed that no one hit on me. I mean, have I gotten that ugly? (you don't have to answer that) LOL

I'm not afraid of a gay person. They have nothing to fear from me either. I believe all men & wemon are created in the image of God and that alone make each person's life something of immense value. Even unborn people and animal life also have immense value to me...but I digress.

It takes a man and a woman to naturally create the homo sapien species. We might now be able to create children clinically through DNA and stem cell research, but still there is something unique about the union of male & female in nature that can not really be mocked, no matter how one might try to change the definition of a word used to describe this union legally.

I think what people should note is that this battle is really about changing a legal definition. There is a desire to use the power of the law to force an ancient word to mean something it simply does not mean. Not only is that a bit odd to me, but it seems to be fraught with ominous threat toward what is true or natural.

My position is not "hate" by any definition of that word either! It is simply an acknowledgement of the obvious truth. Therefore, reality dictates that those who don't love the truth, are the only ones who will hate. It's the obvious natural reality which is no longer allowed to be spoken without real "hate" coming back!

The simple fact that what we're talking about is called "gay marriage" is an acknowledgement on EVERYONE'S part that it's something different than the accepted definition of this word throughout the entire history of Earth.

So all we're talking about here is a forced legal re-definition of an ancient social word. It is an imposed morality with the power of State.

Whatever. I'm not against anyone having the same "civil" rights as every other man, but simply as a matter of speaking the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, "gay marriage" simply is not the same unique and natural thing as a marriage between a man and a woman, no matter what legal language may call it.

Lawyers, courts, and cops can apparently now legally force everyone to lie (at least publicly) about something we all know isn't true.

Justify your beliefs all you want with God talk, but you still never answered the questions.

And to answer the question posed to me: yes, karaoke is music. Mostly-instrumental with someone singing (most times badly) over it. Doesn't mean I have to listen to it or like it - as a mature adult, I don't have to foster a hate campaign against it because of that.

With all due respect.
I did answer the question.
It is the ONLY answer not motivated by fleshly desire, as I am as guilty of sin as any other man.
If motivated by hate, I could just keep the Gospel to myself.
There is no love in telling a blind man he is walking off a cliff . . . and calling it "choice".

George - neither you nor GT directly answered the questions (again).
) If two people get 'married' - what difference does it make to you if they are the same or different gender?
2) How does it affect you, personally, in any way?


Let me add a qualification, as you seem to take it as meaning - 'what if the guys/girls NEXT door...' - answer the questions based on people living 1000 miles away from you right now - you can't talk to them or see them or interact with them in any way or even know their names, just like any other strangers you don't know.