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Just answer this question - if two people get 'married' - WTF difference does it make to you if they are the same or different gender?
Basically, it's none of your business. How does it affect you, personally, in any way?

I love the Adam and Eve 'reasoning'! Don't tell me you are total creationists and think that the whole evolution thing was just 'evidence' created by God?

Just answer this question - if two people get 'married' - WTF difference does it make to you if they are the same or different gender?
Basically, it's none of your business. How does it affect you, personally, in any way?

I love the Adam and Eve 'reasoning'! Don't tell me you are total creationists and think that the whole evolution thing was just 'evidence' created by God?

If you do not believe in a holy God, then it makes no difference. Morality is from God. No God, no morality no problem. However, if you believe in a holy God and His decree then there is a problem with equating something that is not marriage as defined by God as marriage. It was a holy God who set the rules and the institution of marriage. In other words you are telling God that He is not supreme and He does not know what he is talking about if you accept the premise that two men or two women can deem themselves married..

As far as the church being forced to accept gay marriage, it would be a violation of religion by the state if enforced, and therefore a violation of religious freedom. And it will come to that.

So separation of religion from the state (which in itself in an incorrect interpretation) is a one way street with this regime. The government demands that civil law triumphs religious law, but when the other way around all of a sudden that is the violation.

Does that answer your question?

Morality is not from God, it is an essential part of human nature required so that societies can form and last. Morality existed long before we invented God.

Morality is not from God, it is an essential part of human nature required so that societies can form and last. Morality existed long before we invented God.

Religion is necessary even if gods aren't real. Otherwise morality devolves into individual opinion.

Otherwise morality devolves into individual opinion.

It pretty much does already.


I think morality is implied legalism. It's a society stating what it will accept as proper.

I much prefer "righteousness" to morality because it isn't based on society's opinions.


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God created the union of three. Himself with one man and one woman.
The "definition" cannot be changed by men and our meaningless laws.

If people actually believed that here would be far fewer divorces. I see many people insisting on being married in a church, supposedly taking holy and solemn vows, only to discard those vows whenever convenient.

Just answer this question - if two people get 'married' - WTF difference does it make to you if they are the same or different gender?
Basically, it's none of your business. How does it affect you, personally, in any way?

I love the Adam and Eve 'reasoning'! Don't tell me you are total creationists and think that the whole evolution thing was just 'evidence' created by God?

If you do not believe in a holy God, then it makes no difference. Morality is from God. No God, no morality no problem. However, if you believe in a holy God and His decree then there is a problem with equating something that is not marriage as defined by God as marriage. It was a holy God who set the rules and the institution of marriage. In other words you are telling God that He is not supreme and He does not know what he is talking about if you accept the premise that two men or two women can deem themselves married..

As far as the church being forced to accept gay marriage, it would be a violation of religion by the state if enforced, and therefore a violation of religious freedom. And it will come to that.

So separation of religion from the state (which in itself in an incorrect interpretation) is a one way street with this regime. The government demands that civil law triumphs religious law, but when the other way around all of a sudden that is the violation.

Does that answer your question?

Actually, no you didn't answer any of my questions at all. You just spouted 'holy' dogma that the Catholic Church has inserted into your brain. All based on writings from various (unproven) sources, translated, edited and changed by church-appointed people in the intervening centuries.

Uh-oh someone sounds butt-hurt.

Just answer this question - if two people get 'married' - WTF difference does it make to you if they are the same or different gender?
Basically, it's none of your business. How does it affect you, personally, in any way?

I love the Adam and Eve 'reasoning'! Don't tell me you are total creationists and think that the whole evolution thing was just 'evidence' created by God?

If you do not believe in a holy God, then it makes no difference. Morality is from God. No God, no morality no problem. However, if you believe in a holy God and His decree then there is a problem with equating something that is not marriage as defined by God as marriage. It was a holy God who set the rules and the institution of marriage. In other words you are telling God that He is not supreme and He does not know what he is talking about if you accept the premise that two men or two women can deem themselves married..

As far as the church being forced to accept gay marriage, it would be a violation of religion by the state if enforced, and therefore a violation of religious freedom. And it will come to that.

So separation of religion from the state (which in itself in an incorrect interpretation) is a one way street with this regime. The government demands that civil law triumphs religious law, but when the other way around all of a sudden that is the violation.

Does that answer your question?

Actually, no you didn't answer any of my questions at all. You just spouted 'holy' dogma that the Catholic Church has inserted into your brain. All based on writings from various (unproven) sources, translated, edited and changed by church-appointed people in the intervening centuries.

I'm not Catholic. Yes I did answer your questions. You are simply too ignorant to understand that. (Notice that I said ignorant and not stupid)

Actually, I'm a creationist and believe in the scriptures.

As to homosexuals - I don't see why they shouldn't have the same legal rights as other 'couples'. But sadly, this is the camel poking his 'nose' under the Christian tent. They want to be married in our churches.

Sorry Bruce - that ain't happening. Only in the apostate churches.

Talbot

Morality is not from God, it is an essential part of human nature required so that societies can form and last. Morality existed long before we invented God.

DAMN RIGHT!!!

I'm still not gonna let some other man slip in my bed and buuuttt fuuucckkk me in front of my wife to prove how twisted your thinking is.

Jimmy come and kill me... That is the best and worst you could do.

In the mean time you are one crazy, sick , mother , fuucckkeerr.

You jimmy danger are brainless, uneducated, insulting, and meaningless except on this stage.

Come and kill me.

YOU ARE SO WRONG!

I wouldn't kill a worm, why would I kill you? You're less than a worm to me, I wouldn't waste my time on you.

[quote="mistermikev"]I think the more legitimate reasons are (as I recall)
-if a "life partner" is in the hospital about to die it's only family allowed in
-if one of them adopts and then croaks the child can't go to "the husband/wife"
-one of em dies and doesn't have a will the partner gets nothing
stuff like that.
quote]

All easily remedied without changing laws effecting everyone else.
I'm not gay so why should it become my affair to deal with?
Those are problems of, and to be dealt with by gay couples. Not me and everyone else.

Just answer this question - if two people get 'married' - WTF difference does it make to you if they are the same or different gender?
Basically, it's none of your business. How does it affect you, personally, in any way?

I love the Adam and Eve 'reasoning'! Don't tell me you are total creationists and think that the whole evolution thing was just 'evidence' created by God?

If you do not believe in a holy God, then it makes no difference. Morality is from God. No God, no morality no problem. However, if you believe in a holy God and His decree then there is a problem with equating something that is not marriage as defined by God as marriage. It was a holy God who set the rules and the institution of marriage. In other words you are telling God that He is not supreme and He does not know what he is talking about if you accept the premise that two men or two women can deem themselves married..

As far as the church being forced to accept gay marriage, it would be a violation of religion by the state if enforced, and therefore a violation of religious freedom. And it will come to that.

So separation of religion from the state (which in itself in an incorrect interpretation) is a one way street with this regime. The government demands that civil law triumphs religious law, but when the other way around all of a sudden that is the violation.

Does that answer your question?

Actually, no you didn't answer any of my questions at all. You just spouted 'holy' dogma that the Catholic Church has inserted into your brain. All based on writings from various (unproven) sources, translated, edited and changed by church-appointed people in the intervening centuries.

I'm not Catholic. Yes I did answer your questions. You are simply too ignorant to understand that. (Notice that I said ignorant and not stupid)

No, you didn't answer my questions, let me try again:
1) If two people get 'married' - what difference does it make to you if they are the same or different gender?
2) How does it affect you, personally, in any way?