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I think you are assuming I'm assuming. I think if I was rounding up the kind of band you have- which is a Christian band right. Then I think you would have a point. But an all girl rock band is not going to be starting out in the kind of places you would want for a family gathering.

This is apples and oranges pal- It's not the same thing. But like I said before -if you read it- this particular point is the "most flexible on the list". It depends mostly on how the group as a whole feels about it- Not just the wants of one person.

People are people my friend. The same personality conflict issues that apply to any other band can and oft does apply to a gathering of Christians.
I'm just encouraging you to gather information to act upon, not to act based on some historical prejudice.
Flexibility is good.
Best wishes.

I see your point. Thanks for the info.

Hiring musicians is rather expensive. Forming a band is time consuming, but but it isn't enormously expensive. That's a recording option though- just hiring a singer. Just giving the idea of a band a shot- but considering the area I am from that is a long, long, long shot. I could probably round up musicians from a local college much easier than on bandmix. But hey, you never know.

What are your credentials as a producer/writer? Have you ever managed a band before, and more importantly, have you ever been involved in a band or musical project before? Have you a degree in performance, composition, music theory or music pedagogy? Do you have any recordings posted on line? Do you have a website or publication for any music project you can be sited on? Have you any professional experience with sound engineering or the recording sciences? What reasons would aspiring musicians follow your guidance?

Some of the above- but I'm not looking for you.
Are you a girl- NO. I figure you're either trying to pick a fight, or your just ill-mannered.
However, if you are saying that your list is necessary in order to be either a good musician or a manager/promoter of a band, you're way off the beam.

ummmm.... I guess you're not getting it..... He's just trying to show you how ridiculous it looks when you put up all those requirements just to try and get musicians to participate in your project... I think it worked judging from your response...

Hmmmm,

No listed major tour credits, no credentials, no experience. Sounds a bit like this tour manager:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN4XQtKCrbQ

@Crip I wouldn't be so sure of that. He wasn't referring to the list, he is commenting on what he included as a quote in his post. In any case don't worry about it.


@Johnny Your comment was about as slick as me saying your music sucks, even though I've never heard it.

@Crip I wouldn't be so sure of that. He wasn't referring to the list, he is commenting on what he included as a quote in his post. In any case don't worry about it.


@Johnny Your comment was about as slick as me saying your music sucks, even though I've never heard it.

So where's the beef Michael? You sell a lot of dreams, make a lot of performer demands but give zero indication that you can back any of it up with results. Show us the goods! Which major tour did you manage? How many gold records have you produced? Why would anyone choose to work with you and depend on your proven music industry skills to "make it big"??

Inquiring minds want to know.

Obviously you haven't read the revised ad. But to answer your questions- although it's none of your business- there are no gold records or big tours- sorry. But I'm sure you can point out to me where it says those are requirements for starting band, doing promotion or simply booking gigs. By the way, how many gold records do you have? And of course you have Grammy Awards right?

Since you guys didn't like the ad- I've seen the light- It's now revised and I don't think it's going to get any responses regardless of what it says. Actually the ad for an all girl band in my location was really not viable. I know, I know, it's just not going to be as much fun. But I do kind of like this new ad though, the simplicity of it. And there's not too much information in it for the reading impaired.

Obviously you haven't read the revised ad. But to answer your questions- although it's none of your business- there are no gold records or big tours- sorry. But I'm sure you can point out to me where it says those are requirements for starting band, doing promotion or simply booking gigs. By the way, how many gold records do you have? And of course you have Grammy Awards right?

I am not pretending to be a promoter/producer/tour manager. If you really want to attract musical talent, you have to bring something of value to the table. As the father of two talented twentysomething female singers with international performing experience, a "promoter" dodging questions about his skills and experience sets the BS alarm to defcon 4. So far it looks like all foam and no beer.

The ad does look better though. More humility and less arrogance is always wise.

Well I'm glad to hear someone in your family's doing good. I could understand your snotty remarks if you were asking things seriously, but something tells me - you just have an affliction- You know, maybe bad management in the past, or perhaps no management at all. Whatever it is- it's pretty clear you have a bug up your a$$ about something.

By the way you never got back to me on your gold records and Grammy awards- that's bad manners.

So where does all this big tour manager come in- The ad never said anything like that. Here, let me spell it out for you:

The idea was to put together 4 or 5 girls with some talent, if not experience, get them started practicing, working on their material, finding them a place to jam, booking some gigs when their ready- and then see what happens. I think anyone willing to do that without getting a nickel for his time, is a good deal. If they get good- then I'll record them- and we'll see where that goes. Only if they Made It- would I take a cut- In other words- If they don't succeed I'm just out of time and some money- sh*t happens. I'll consider it an interesting project.

Now it doesn't require past gold records to do that. You don't need a string of big bands for credentials. It's a friggin gift. It a good deal, and if you don't think so, then there's something wrong with you.

...so...anywayz.... howz that workin' for ya??

About as good as the last one

Uh oh! Looks like we lost our humility again. Oh well...

Yep most of us who have been around the block get creeped out when a guy with no credentials or experience writes stuff like this in his ad for young girls:

"In short a producer/manager/promoter, and fix-it guy. You girls get to play the music and get famous."

I do believe those were your exact words Michael. Add a big dose of arrogance with nothing to back it up and you lose all credibility pretty fast. You have amply demonstrated your excellent people skills, business acumen, and promotional ability by the surly way you have responded to each of the inquiries about your ad and your qualifications.

Good luck with your project.