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#217496 by DainNobody
Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:08 am
I am borderline insane... some recent reading suggests there is actual manna bread from Moses's time, sealed away in a tomb somewhere, as a reminder that event actually took place, like a keepsake if you will, of course it is shrouded in secrecy, but the relic is brought out for certain rituals and stuuff.. LOL.... manna fell from the heavens to feed God's people stranded and drifting in the desert..

#217524 by gbheil
Thu Jun 27, 2013 1:24 pm
Manna was more than sustenance. It was a daily event designed to teach the Israelite to trust in God.
It would spoil overnight so that anyone whom did not have faith in God for day to day support, their labors of gathering more than the days need was in vain.

Even if it would keep. It's use in such a fashion would constitute idolatry.
So the short answer wound be . . . no.

#217535 by MikeTalbot
Thu Jun 27, 2013 4:58 pm
Actually, I believe a piece of manna was stored in the Ark of the Covenant along with the original stone tablets of Moses. All was lost during one of the several invasions of Israel.

talbot

#217539 by DainNobody
Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:24 pm
MikeTalbot wrote:Actually, I believe a piece of manna was stored in the Ark of the Covenant along with the original stone tablets of Moses. All was lost during one of the several invasions of Israel.

talbot
that explains why the manna bread relic is in Arab hands..

#217541 by DainNobody
Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:33 pm
many Moslem haters here, do not understand much that was written about in the Old Testament is also spoken of in the Quran.. manna bread being an example..

#217542 by gbheil
Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:42 pm
I don't hate the Muslims.
If I were motivate by hate I would simply hold my peace and allow them to damnation without the benefit of ever hearing the Truth of Christ Jesus.
That of course would involve me in the same fate.

As for the Manna: Some was indeed kept as part of the old covenant which has passed away with the new covenant this is in Christ Jesus.

16 Then the whole community of Israel set out from Elim and journeyed into the wilderness of Sin,[a] between Elim and Mount Sinai. They arrived there on the fifteenth day of the second month, one month after leaving the land of Egypt.[b] 2 There, too, the whole community of Israel complained about Moses and Aaron.

3 “If only the Lord had killed us back in Egypt,” they moaned. “There we sat around pots filled with meat and ate all the bread we wanted. But now you have brought us into this wilderness to starve us all to death.”

4 Then the Lord said to Moses, “Look, I’m going to rain down food from heaven for you. Each day the people can go out and pick up as much food as they need for that day. I will test them in this to see whether or not they will follow my instructions. 5 On the sixth day they will gather food, and when they prepare it, there will be twice as much as usual.”

6 So Moses and Aaron said to all the people of Israel, “By evening you will realize it was the Lord who brought you out of the land of Egypt. 7 In the morning you will see the glory of the Lord, because he has heard your complaints, which are against him, not against us. What have we done that you should complain about us?” 8 Then Moses added, “The Lord will give you meat to eat in the evening and bread to satisfy you in the morning, for he has heard all your complaints against him. What have we done? Yes, your complaints are against the Lord, not against us.”

9 Then Moses said to Aaron, “Announce this to the entire community of Israel: ‘Present yourselves before the Lord, for he has heard your complaining.’” 10 And as Aaron spoke to the whole community of Israel, they looked out toward the wilderness. There they could see the awesome glory of the Lord in the cloud.

11 Then the Lord said to Moses, 12 “I have heard the Israelites’ complaints. Now tell them, ‘In the evening you will have meat to eat, and in the morning you will have all the bread you want. Then you will know that I am the Lord your God.’”

13 That evening vast numbers of quail flew in and covered the camp. And the next morning the area around the camp was wet with dew. 14 When the dew evaporated, a flaky substance as fine as frost blanketed the ground. 15 The Israelites were puzzled when they saw it. “What is it?” they asked each other. They had no idea what it was.

And Moses told them, “It is the food the Lord has given you to eat. 16 These are the Lord’s instructions: Each household should gather as much as it needs. Pick up two quarts[c] for each person in your tent.”

17 So the people of Israel did as they were told. Some gathered a lot, some only a little. 18 But when they measured it out,[d] everyone had just enough. Those who gathered a lot had nothing left over, and those who gathered only a little had enough. Each family had just what it needed.

19 Then Moses told them, “Do not keep any of it until morning.” 20 But some of them didn’t listen and kept some of it until morning. But by then it was full of maggots and had a terrible smell. Moses was very angry with them.

21 After this the people gathered the food morning by morning, each family according to its need. And as the sun became hot, the flakes they had not picked up melted and disappeared. 22 On the sixth day, they gathered twice as much as usual—four quarts[e] for each person instead of two. Then all the leaders of the community came and asked Moses for an explanation. 23 He told them, “This is what the Lord commanded: Tomorrow will be a day of complete rest, a holy Sabbath day set apart for the Lord. So bake or boil as much as you want today, and set aside what is left for tomorrow.”

24 So they put some aside until morning, just as Moses had commanded. And in the morning the leftover food was wholesome and good, without maggots or odor. 25 Moses said, “Eat this food today, for today is a Sabbath day dedicated to the Lord. There will be no food on the ground today. 26 You may gather the food for six days, but the seventh day is the Sabbath. There will be no food on the ground that day.”

27 Some of the people went out anyway on the seventh day, but they found no food. 28 The Lord asked Moses, “How long will these people refuse to obey my commands and instructions? 29 They must realize that the Sabbath is the Lord’s gift to you. That is why he gives you a two-day supply on the sixth day, so there will be enough for two days. On the Sabbath day you must each stay in your place. Do not go out to pick up food on the seventh day.” 30 So the people did not gather any food on the seventh day.

31 The Israelites called the food manna.[f] It was white like coriander seed, and it tasted like honey wafers.

32 Then Moses said, “This is what the Lord has commanded: Fill a two-quart container with manna to preserve it for your descendants. Then later generations will be able to see the food I gave you in the wilderness when I set you free from Egypt.”

33 Moses said to Aaron, “Get a jar and fill it with two quarts of manna. Then put it in a sacred place before the Lord to preserve it for all future generations.” 34 Aaron did just as the Lord had commanded Moses. He eventually placed it in the Ark of the Covenant—in front of the stone tablets inscribed with the terms of the covenant.[g] 35 So the people of Israel ate manna for forty years until they arrived at the land where they would settle. They ate manna until they came to the border of the land of Canaan.

36 The container used to measure the manna was an omer, which was one-tenth of an ephah; it held about two quarts.[h]

#217545 by GuitarMikeB
Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:57 pm
That's got to be some STALE moldy bread by now! :wink:

#217546 by DainNobody
Thu Jun 27, 2013 6:25 pm
GuitarMikeB wrote:That's got to be some STALE moldy bread by now! :wink:
it only lasts for one day before it starts to stink Mike, unless it is gathered before the Holy Day.. I want to believe it fell out of the sky, but some scholars stae it could be the sugary by-product of a certain scale insect that infests tamarisk trees..

#217547 by DainNobody
Thu Jun 27, 2013 6:27 pm
the wandering jews supposedly lived off manna bread for 40 years, until they came upon Canaan and then it miraculously stopped raining down from the heavens...

#217620 by crunchysoundbite
Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:51 pm
sanshouheil wrote:Manna was more than sustenance. It was a daily event designed to teach the Israelite to trust in God.
It would spoil overnight so that anyone whom did not have faith in God for day to day support, their labors of gathering more than the days need was in vain.

Even if it would keep. It's use in such a fashion would constitute idolatry.
So the short answer wound be . . . no.
With the exception of the sabbath, it would not only spoil overnight, but stink. Imagine how many nights of developing stink has developed since. I don't think God wanted it kept as a relic. Some cheeses have stink that are considered good. This is not cheese, nor God's will. Just stink, if it exists. if it exists, it would be unbearable to smell, much less consume. Yet, sometimes, things that stink are good as a fuel. Could this relic be more powerful than a nuclear reaction?

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