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#215683 by DainNobody
Wed May 29, 2013 1:29 am
is Obama talking spacemen aliens? this will guarantee ripe fruits and vegetables will always be affordable at the grocery store..

#215685 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Wed May 29, 2013 1:37 am
Dane, if you are a narc... Think of it as job security.

#215687 by DainNobody
Wed May 29, 2013 1:46 am
I do not know of 1 Mexican that is not a hard working person, they will never be a drain on the social programs we have in place, rather there labor ensures every American an affordable meal because without Mexican labor, foodstuffs would be unaffordable to the masses.. this is a generalized statement but most would agree with me here.. :lol:

#215688 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Wed May 29, 2013 2:03 am
Dane Ellis Allen wrote:I do not know of 1 Mexican that is not a hard working person, they will never be a drain on the social programs we have in place, rather there labor ensures every American an affordable meal because without Mexican labor, foodstuffs would be unaffordable to the masses.. this is a generalized statement but most would agree with me here.. :lol:


That is a generalized statement and I appreciate your standing ovation for yourself.
Do you know any mexican people?

Do you know of any 80 year old that is not a drag on all the social programs we have in place?

Dane please stop... Please stop believing all the socialist lies that money is limitless and that all we have to do is steal it from Americans that abide by the rules. If that farmer can not figure a legal way to get his strawberries out of his field...

Either he shouldn't be a farmer,or government restrictions on employment and all the other regs to harvest those strawberries have become so restrictive that he ...

IS FORCED TO BREAK THE LAW TO MAKE A PROFIT!

#215696 by Kramerguy
Wed May 29, 2013 2:02 pm
so maybe we should enact the "logan's run" law. If you retire, you die. Not precisely the same as the movie, but you know.. the spirit of things.

#215699 by Deadguitars
Wed May 29, 2013 2:22 pm
GLENNY J wrote: Please stop believing all the socialist lies that money is limitless and that all we have to do is steal it from Americans that abide by the rules. !

Glenn thinks ejecting 11 million people out of the country wont coast a penny
What a hoot !
Glenn - who will pay for the round up - the prosecution - the jails to hold them - the food we will feed them while they are waiting for deportation ?
Oh I know- The tax payer !
I thought we were trying to make the Govt smaller ?


"Either he shouldn't be a farmer,or government restrictions on employment and all the other regs to harvest those strawberries have become so restrictive that he ... "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agricultural_subsidy
The United States currently pays around $20 billion per year to farmers in direct subsidies as "farm income stabilization"[9][10][11] via U.S. farm bills. These bills pre-date the economic turmoil of the Great Depression with the 1922 Grain Futures Act, the 1929 Agricultural Marketing Act and the 1933 Agricultural Adjustment Act creating a tradition of government support.

Oh the poor farmers and what the big bad Govt is doing to them
:)

#215700 by Slacker G
Wed May 29, 2013 2:41 pm
Dane,

Are you unteachable? Right now 80% of illegals take government handouts. Where does that money originate? It comes from printed money that has no backing other than the money you have already earned. Count 11,00 supposed illegals and you would find it is usually 2-3 times that number, and then in come the relatives. I imagine 80% of those shall also be on some sort of government handouts.

Again Dane... When the economy crashes because the rest of the world refuses to accept our worthless dollar, then inflation will hit hard. Just remember that along with many Americans, the illegals will be without food and services.

When inflation hits, many will not have the money for food and other necessities. There will be people that will do anything to feed their families. They won't be content to let their children starve. In the beginning they will go house to house breaking in and robbing you of your possessions to trade or sell for a little food. Then they will be after anything you have that can be eaten. And that is only the beginning. Soon the services will grind to a halt because fuel will be too expensive. But before things get that bad city people will be headed for the country to pillage. City folk think that farms will always have food. People will kill others just because they THINK that they are hiding food. No?

Any country that has collapsed has gone that way. We older folks will go first, then the youngest. Then the rest will fight amongst themselves for what is left. Eventually for those unlucky enough to have made it through will be under the iron hand of a military style tyrannical government.

If you can't see what is coming down the road I pity you when your eyes are finally opened to the truth by cold hard reality. Things were rough during the great depression. Only this time there will be no food lines because there won't be any food to replenish the storehouses.

Spend a bit of time reading up about what total economic collapse would bring. See what it will be like when gold is worthless because food is in such short supply.

In Israel people would fight over the afterbirth of their children when collapse came. They would say, "Today we will eat your child, tomorrow we will eat mine." So it is written.

Deu 28:54 Because of hunger, a man who had been gentle and kind will eat his own children and refuse to share the meal with his brother or wife or with his other children.

Deu 28:56 The most tender and refined woman among you, who would not venture to set the sole of her foot on the ground because she is so delicate and tender, will begrudge to the husband she embraces, to her son and to her daughter, her afterbirth that comes out from between her feet and her children whom she bears, because lacking everything she will eat them secretly, in the siege and in the distress with which your enemy shall distress you in your towns.

Those are not threats, those are promises made by a living God to those who reject Him and His rule.

It can't happen here? America won't go bankrupt? Don't lie to yourself, it can and will happen here. The Lord has told me so. He is going to destroy the economies of this world. That includes America. Famine and bloodshed are coming to America. Look at the signs. Look around the world to see what is happening.

#215701 by Slacker G
Wed May 29, 2013 2:48 pm
Deadguitars wrote:
GLENNY J wrote: Please stop believing all the socialist lies that money is limitless and that all we have to do is steal it from Americans that abide by the rules. !

Glenn thinks ejecting 11 million people out of the country wont coast a penny
What a hoot !
Glenn - who will pay for the round up - the prosecution - the jails to hold them - the food we will feed them while they are waiting for deportation ?
Oh I know- The tax payer !
I thought we were trying to make the Govt smaller ?


"Either he shouldn't be a farmer,or government restrictions on employment and all the other regs to harvest those strawberries have become so restrictive that he ... "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agricultural_subsidy
The United States currently pays around $20 billion per year to farmers in direct subsidies as "farm income stabilization"[9][10][11] via U.S. farm bills. These bills pre-date the economic turmoil of the Great Depression with the 1922 Grain Futures Act, the 1929 Agricultural Marketing Act and the 1933 Agricultural Adjustment Act creating a tradition of government support.

Oh the poor farmers and what the big bad Govt is doing to them
:)


Don't be such a shallow thinker. They came here on their own. If illegals are refused employment, they will leave here on their own. Problem solved at no cost to the taxpayer. Only leftists and politicians hoping for the illegal vote preach that we can't deport them .... that's simply bunk. We don't need to deport them, we only have to enforce the statutes already on the books about employing illegals. Then they will leave in the exact way that they came.

Glen knows the score. You would do well to listen to him occasionally.
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#215703 by jimmydanger
Wed May 29, 2013 2:49 pm
The Lord told you so? Ha ha, that's not God speaking, that's just dementia. They have drugs for that.

#215704 by Deadguitars
Wed May 29, 2013 2:54 pm
Slacker G wrote:
Don't be such a shallow thinker. They came here on their own. If illegals are refused employment, they will leave here on their own Problem solved at no cost to the taxpayer. .

Self deport
Right !
Anyone have any REASONABLE ideas about how to solve this complicated problem ?
Arent there already laws against hiring illegals ?
Yeah - Slacker wish them away - thats brilliant

:lol:

#215705 by Slacker G
Wed May 29, 2013 2:56 pm
jimmydanger wrote:The Lord told you so? Ha ha, that's not God speaking, that's just dementia. They have drugs for that.


It is said that a fool is wise in his own eyes, yet even a fool appears wise when he keeps his mouth shut.

#215706 by DainNobody
Wed May 29, 2013 2:59 pm
Slacker G wrote:Dane,

Are you unteachable? Right now 80% of illegals take government handouts. Where does that money originate? It comes from printed money that has no backing other than the money you have already earned. Count 11,00 supposed illegals and you would find it is usually 2-3 times that number, and then in come the relatives. I imagine 80% of those shall also be on some sort of government handouts.

Again Dane... When the economy crashes because the rest of the world refuses to accept our worthless dollar, then inflation will hit hard. Just remember that along with many Americans, the illegals will be without food and services.

When inflation hits, many will not have the money for food and other necessities. There will be people that will do anything to feed their families. They won't be content to let their children starve. In the beginning they will go house to house breaking in and robbing you of your possessions to trade or sell for a little food. Then they will be after anything you have that can be eaten. And that is only the beginning. Soon the services will grind to a halt because fuel will be too expensive. But before things get that bad city people will be headed for the country to pillage. City folk think that farms will always have food. People will kill others just because they THINK that they are hiding food. No?

Any country that has collapsed has gone that way. We older folks will go first, then the youngest. Then the rest will fight amongst themselves for what is left. Eventually for those unlucky enough to have made it through will be under the iron hand of a military style tyrannical government.

If you can't see what is coming down the road I pity you when your eyes are finally opened to the truth by cold hard reality. Things were rough during the great depression. Only this time there will be no food lines because there won't be any food to replenish the storehouses.

Spend a bit of time reading up about what total economic collapse would bring. See what it will be like when gold is worthless because food is in such short supply.

In Israel people would fight over the afterbirth of their children when collapse came. They would say, "Today we will eat your child, tomorrow we will eat mine." So it is written.

Deu 28:54 Because of hunger, a man who had been gentle and kind will eat his own children and refuse to share the meal with his brother or wife or with his other children.

Deu 28:56 The most tender and refined woman among you, who would not venture to set the sole of her foot on the ground because she is so delicate and tender, will begrudge to the husband she embraces, to her son and to her daughter, her afterbirth that comes out from between her feet and her children whom she bears, because lacking everything she will eat them secretly, in the siege and in the distress with which your enemy shall distress you in your towns.

Those are not threats, those are promises made by a living God to those who reject Him and His rule.

It can't happen here? America won't go bankrupt? Don't lie to yourself, it can and will happen here. The Lord has told me so. He is going to destroy the economies of this world. That includes America. Famine and bloodshed are coming to America. Look at the signs. Look around the world to see what is happening.
Slacker, just how many white guys and gals have you ever seen in a field doing hoeing, planting, harvesting?.. I am talking California, Arizona TRUCK FARMS, not Iowa soybean fields.. no whites will do that back breaking work for 30 dollars an hour even! that's the going rate 30 dollars an hour.. I lived in Orlando, and orange pickers are Mexicans too.. even blacks refuse to do such rotten of work.. I have been to a sugar beet farm just north of Woodland Hills Calif. and no whites working in the fields, although sugar beets are somewhat harvested with machinery John Deere sugar beet harvesters..you think food is high in the grocery store now, just wait till they deport all the cheap labor back to Mexico and then watch produce double in price or more..

#215708 by Deadguitars
Wed May 29, 2013 3:01 pm
Danes right -I aint living like no Amish Folk
f**k that !
:D

#215710 by Slacker G
Wed May 29, 2013 3:17 pm
Dane Ellis Allen wrote:
Slacker G wrote:Dane,

Are you unteachable? Right now 80% of illegals take government handouts. Where does that money originate? It comes from printed money that has no backing other than the money you have already earned. Count 11,00 supposed illegals and you would find it is usually 2-3 times that number, and then in come the relatives. I imagine 80% of those shall also be on some sort of government handouts.

Again Dane... When the economy crashes because the rest of the world refuses to accept our worthless dollar, then inflation will hit hard. Just remember that along with many Americans, the illegals will be without food and services.

When inflation hits, many will not have the money for food and other necessities. There will be people that will do anything to feed their families. They won't be content to let their children starve. In the beginning they will go house to house breaking in and robbing you of your possessions to trade or sell for a little food. Then they will be after anything you have that can be eaten. And that is only the beginning. Soon the services will grind to a halt because fuel will be too expensive. But before things get that bad city people will be headed for the country to pillage. City folk think that farms will always have food. People will kill others just because they THINK that they are hiding food. No?

Any country that has collapsed has gone that way. We older folks will go first, then the youngest. Then the rest will fight amongst themselves for what is left. Eventually for those unlucky enough to have made it through will be under the iron hand of a military style tyrannical government.

If you can't see what is coming down the road I pity you when your eyes are finally opened to the truth by cold hard reality. Things were rough during the great depression. Only this time there will be no food lines because there won't be any food to replenish the storehouses.

Spend a bit of time reading up about what total economic collapse would bring. See what it will be like when gold is worthless because food is in such short supply.

In Israel people would fight over the afterbirth of their children when collapse came. They would say, "Today we will eat your child, tomorrow we will eat mine." So it is written.

Deu 28:54 Because of hunger, a man who had been gentle and kind will eat his own children and refuse to share the meal with his brother or wife or with his other children.

Deu 28:56 The most tender and refined woman among you, who would not venture to set the sole of her foot on the ground because she is so delicate and tender, will begrudge to the husband she embraces, to her son and to her daughter, her afterbirth that comes out from between her feet and her children whom she bears, because lacking everything she will eat them secretly, in the siege and in the distress with which your enemy shall distress you in your towns.

Those are not threats, those are promises made by a living God to those who reject Him and His rule.

It can't happen here? America won't go bankrupt? Don't lie to yourself, it can and will happen here. The Lord has told me so. He is going to destroy the economies of this world. That includes America. Famine and bloodshed are coming to America. Look at the signs. Look around the world to see what is happening.
Slacker, just how many white guys and gals have you ever seen in a field doing hoeing, planting, harvesting?.. I am talking California, Arizona TRUCK FARMS, not Iowa soybean fields.. no whites will do that back breaking work for 30 dollars an hour even! that's the going rate 30 dollars an hour.. I lived in Orlando, and orange pickers are Mexicans too.. even blacks refuse to do such rotten of work.. I have been to a sugar beet farm just north of Woodland Hills Calif. and no whites working in the fields, although sugar beets are somewhat harvested with machinery John Deere sugar beet harvesters..you think food is high in the grocery store now, just wait till they deport all the cheap labor back to Mexico and then watch produce double in price or more..


Really Dane? Really?? And just exactly where did all those migrant workers that were given amnesty previously go? I wonder just how many of those "farm workers" that were given amnesty are still out in the fields.

Millions were given amnesty. I thought that millions of farm workers that were given amnesty would surly be enough to make the harvest.

Oh yeah. Now I remember, they took the higher paying jobs instead since they were now legalized through the demoncrat legislation that Regan signed on to.. And the promise to close the boarders was NEVER fulfilled, was it?

The first time for those who believed the politicians it was called ignorance, the second time is is called stupidity.

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