General Music Chat

jimmy, we must travel in the same circles because i can say the exact same thing about the muslims i've had the pleasure to be around.

judaism for all it's shortcomings does not actively try to "recruit". quite the opposite...if someone decides they want to convert they have to jump thru some serious hoops first.

the problem w these whackjobs is their lumping everyone outside THEIR group into the same bag and self righteously casting their across the board, non qualified hatred out there.

i mean what kind of short sided dumbasses are so quick to lump everyone into the same bag???

One time, I was lumped into a group of musicians, just cause I subscribed to BM... Those dang 'sweepers'! LOL

well, grant i assumed you were a musician because you presented yourself as such. i bet most here came to same conclusion about you based on the same.

now, rest assured if ANY muslim presents himself to me as a card carrying terrorist i will immediately accept him as such.

the problem w these whackjobs is their lumping everyone outside THEIR group into the same bag and self righteously casting their across the board, non qualified hatred out there.

i mean what kind of short sided dumbasses are so quick to lump everyone into the same bag???

Have you read the Koran ?

They are "in the same bag" by their own choice.
No one put them there.

much the same as the bible.....there are different interpretations of the koran by different followers.

since most christians can agree that not everything in the bible is to be taken literally at face value...why is it so hard to extend that same approach to the koran?

If it ended simply with a disagreement about 'brand names" the world could spin happily. Let me ask you this Mark, In the last 30 years:

In America

1) When has a Jew beheaded a captive (leatt alone hold a captive)
2) When has a Christian Committed an honor killing of a daughter
3) WHen did either a jew or a Christian plow a a couple of 747s into a tower bldg>
4) WHen was that lastime you saw a jew or a christtian start to throw rocks and bottles at people, just because they made a bad decision to infringe with ideals, on a festivity?
5) How many Muslums were killed a the Boston Marathon, from a bomb?

How many of your Muslum friends would speak out against the violence against Americans, at the mosques, and not just at one of your After hours parties at the gig?



At the end of the day , if you cant wrap your head around common reasons why some people in America are feeling a bit pissed and narrow, , and why they think any assessment about 'lumpers" is beyond dismissive lip-service (considering the climate) , then dude, I'd say you lack a degree of sensitivity about 'both' sides of the spectrum.

I dont disagree with your general thesis about bigotry, etc... But I'd say, its a good argument at a very bad time.

The thing is, most people will eventually calm down and become reasonable...But probably not as long as (enter your group name) keep killing Americans.

FYI, it's Muslim, not Muslum. And no 747's hit the WTC. Those pesky facts and details.

FYI, it's Muslim, not Muslum. And no 747's hit the WTC. Those pesky facts and details.

jimmy, fyi...it's my understanding that the poorer neighborhoods and ghettos where the less fortunate and bad off muslims live are in fact referred to as muslums.

just thought you'd wanna know.

Here I thought the proper term was Mushood.

Actually there are no poor Muslims around here, they own all the gas stations and party stores.

At the end of the day , if you cant wrap your head around common reasons why some people in America are feeling a bit pissed and narrow, , and why they think any assessment about 'lumpers" is beyond dismissive lip-service (considering the climate) , then dude, I'd say you lack a degree of sensitivity about 'both' sides of the spectrum.

if by "wrapping my head around" you mean understanding WHY people would choose to feel that way.....sure i can UNDERSTAND it.

but, if you mean condoning the lumping of ALL muslims into the same bag and that i should give those who feel that way a free pass....sorry, no dice. so, yeah....if that's your yardstick...color me as "lacking a degree of sensitivity". i'm guilty as charged.

The thing is, most people will eventually calm down and become reasonable...But probably not as long as (enter your group name) keep killing Americans.

most people will calm down eventually????? really? nah, most people love, cherish, and will always look for a convenient target (exactly the same as nutjob terroists do, ironically) to blame their troubles upon.

people just love getting themselves riled up and rallying around a common perceived enemy (hmmm, does sound like any fundamentalist religious group?).

doubt it? you need look no further than the proliferation of conservative radio talk shows.

You're bound to find a bad apple or two when you have a barrel full. But you don't throw them all out.

FYI, it's Muslim, not Muslum. And no 747's hit the WTC. Those pesky facts and details.

I've seen it (Muslum/Muslim ) used both ways...

If saying 727s DC 10's or Lears will bring any of the victims back, I'll make a point to carve out that detail, a little closer. Regardless, misnaming the aircraft doesn't change the point I was making.

At the end of the day , if you cant wrap your head around common reasons why some people in America are feeling a bit pissed and narrow, , and why they think any assessment about 'lumpers" is beyond dismissive lip-service (considering the climate) , then dude, I'd say you lack a degree of sensitivity about 'both' sides of the spectrum.

if by "wrapping my head around" you mean understanding WHY people would choose to feel that way.....sure i can UNDERSTAND it.

but, if you mean condoning the lumping of ALL muslims into the same bag and that i should give those who feel that way a free pass....sorry, no dice. so, yeah....if that's your yardstick...color me as "lacking a degree of sensitivity". i'm guilty as charged.

The thing is, most people will eventually calm down and become reasonable...But probably not as long as (enter your group name) keep killing Americans.

most people will calm down eventually????? really? nah, most people love, cherish, and will always look for a convenient target (exactly the same as nutjob terroists do, ironically) to blame their troubles upon.

people just love getting themselves riled up and rallying around a common perceived enemy (hmmm, does sound like any fundamentalist religious group?).

doubt it? you need look no further than the proliferation of conservative radio talk shows.

I'm sure your point about radio shows is valid... But I never tune in and listen to any of them. (Haven't for decades). I thought radio was actually dead.


"Most People" Love, Cherish and look for convenient targets...." That's accurate...cause coincidently, most Muslum radical terrorists I've read about, are the same way... But... here's something really wacky... Most candidates for becoming victims of said terrorists are ALSO being the same way ...against the perpetrators of that violence.

I'm not saying its right...But I understand it...and until the violence stops against those victoms... I fully condone retaliation... Until the Job is complete.

I'll ask again... Of all your Muslum friends, how many are making a point to help westerners understand the differentiation between good guys and bad guys? How many are doing this through a mosque, organized...proactively showing their'love' for the western Victims of that brand of violence?

Help me out here...I WANT to be able to assign a specific Group more credit that I currently feel compelled about.

"Of all your Muslum friends, how many are making a point to help westerners understand the differentiation between good guys and bad guys? How many are doing this through a mosque, organized...proactively showing their'love' for the western Victims of that brand of violence?"

Do you go out of your way to teach Muslims that all Americans don't hate them? Nope, didn't think so.

BandMix dumbasses of course! Are there any other kind?

have you seen the rest of the internet? You should check out the comments on articles at the huffington post sometime.. talk about partisan whack jobs..

"Of all your Muslum friends, how many are making a point to help westerners understand the differentiation between good guys and bad guys? How many are doing this through a mosque, organized...proactively showing their'love' for the western Victims of that brand of violence?"

Do you go out of your way to teach Muslims that all Americans don't hate them? Nope, didn't think so.

Well Jimmy, Its not necessary, since many American muslims dont make your assumption, and they are already aware that all Americans don't hate them...

I couldnt help but notice, you were johnny -on- the- spot about correcting an american about his spelling of the word Muslim, but you are nowhere to be found, when it come to serving up any useful truth.

Doesn't it disturb you as an American, that you are 'hated'..enough that a certain grp of people would just as soon lob your head off, as to give you the time of day?

Don't you think its important that those, who might be 'mis-construed' as an enemy, should contribute a little effort there to help the victims discern the real enemy?

I'm askin.

The short answer? Nope.

The Muslims I know deplore the extremists, as all good people should. There are fanatics in every group, but by far most of the group are normal, hard-working people.

Would you like it if you met a foreigner who said "oh you're an American, you must be like Timothy McVeigh"?