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#213819 by Slacker G
Thu May 02, 2013 5:11 pm
Glenny,

However what shocked me is the fact that you separated yourself from the very government... THAT YOU HAVE AUTHORIZED. Sorry I was just getting this feeling of giving up. Our government is not as important as the INDIVIDUALS it was created to support.


I did not authorize lawbreakers and tyrants in any manner. And you haven't any right to even suggest that I have. We are on the same side. This world has been in a state of decay since men were brought into creation. I have been given the wisdom to understand that fact. I didn't take it personally, I only meant to clarify.

I AM separated from the "elitist self appointed ruling class" . I AM also separated through the knowledge that I am only a pawn passing through this temporary world, and that it is not mine to decide the fate of any outcome but rather know it is Gods choice to manipulate His creation in any way He chooses.. For that reason I view things through spiritual concepts first. It is written that ALL authority is appointed by God alone. Sometimes God appoints men like Hitler. Sometimes He appoints men that have morality and act in like manner. It just so happens that the former are in power today in this land.

Do I love my Constitution and my Bill of Rights? I most certainty do. But if I were to have a choice I would rather die for my belief in Christ as opposed to my belief in freedom. It is more noble to die for the creator than for the creation.

I view all things as spiritual conflicts, as opposed to men being driven to do evil on their own.

It is my place to seek out and understand what God is doing and act accordingly lest I find myself in opposition to His will. My whole spirit burns with anger when I see evil men destroying America along with our rights as Americans. Yet I understand that it is God who has given for them to be deceived, and I can not blame them for what they were created to accomplish on this earth.

Pharaoh had no choice. He was created and put into power over Israel for Gods purpose alone. Judas was called the son of perdition, and he was raised up for hist very purpose. How could man possibly have made changes to those choices? Should the Jews have murdered Pharaoh? Should the disciples have put Judas to death to save Christ? No. It is up to man to understand the will of God and act within their understanding.

It is written that Christ did and spoke only as the Father directed him. He could have gone into politics and changed the world, yet he understood the ways of God and his purpose of being. If a Christian is to emulate Christ then he must first understanding what God is accomplishing though and in His creation.

I will try to walk as I am directed. If I am told to resist, I shall. If I am told to become a captive, I will, if I am told that it is time for me to die at the hands of my enemy I shall.

All power and authority belongs to God alone, so who am I to contend with God or His creation outside of His will for me? I know what God is doing and I am acting accordingly. I hope you see that I am not one who gives up. What is mine to give up? I am only passing through this world, I am not one conforming to it. We are on the same side.
#213832 by Vampier
Thu May 02, 2013 6:49 pm
...Scott you are correct it would indeed be a good heavy band name ... properly done it could rattle a lot of people's cages and perhaps ReAwaken them. Timely and relevant. I thank you.

Glenn ...I always appreciate your compliments and support and criticism and perspective and humour. We shall always agree upon FREEDOM.

I wish that I had the ability and finance to bring Slacker, PaperDog, Glenn, Yod, Krammer, Haley, Scotty, Talbot, Planet Guy, Sans, Dane, RGMP, Vinny Guitar Mike, JW and some others to sit round the fire, drink and discuss and debate all night, every night for an entire week and videotape the entire affair and send it out to everyone here who would want it for free and un-edited.

It would be so very interesting and utterly impossible to predict ....unlike FOX News. I truly wonder what the outcome would be ? Each night would have a subject and each person his time and then some lively discussion. I venture to say that we would all depart better friends with a more complete understanding of one another and the world, our purpose and ourselves.

I believe that each of us have the Freedom to choose our own Spirituality. Beyond ourselves this lies with others. We may voice our opinions, discuss, argue, anger or even agree. The FREEDOM to be able to do this is most precious and now at this moment in grave danger. I have learned to try and at least to respect others for having spirituality and Spiritual beliefs and to further try to understand them and contrast them to my own. Whatever .... the choice is clearly a personal one for each and every one of us. I feel that the most important thing to do is "walk the talk" ... that is "practice what you preach" and to not be a hypocrite. Of course this is easier said than done. I admire those who do this the majority of time ... individuals like Yod for instance. These exceptional Individuals should be an inspirational to us all even if we do not agree or believe as they do.

Our lives are a journey.... some go far and others only to the corner store to purchase some drink , but it is all totally relevant. The relationship each of us has within themselves is what is important ... your body ... your mind ... your Spirit. This "Inner Journey" is most important ad more relevant than the "physical". Some know this and others do not. Some will find out and still others will not ... at least in this Circle. It is always a personal decision however this is often ignored in our "passionate interchanges".

Once again we need to all appreciate this Site because it does in fact allow us to "express" ourselves... it still allows a great degree of FREEDOMS. Unfortunately this will come to an end soon. These FREEDOMS may actually one day be "used" against all of us. This makes what is said here even more relevant and important and far reaching. It also makes our own journeys more important.

The ugliest and most Evil thing in my opinion is not religion although obviously I am not overly fond of religion either. It is POLITICS. Religion is Spiritual and therefore more relevant to each of us. Hypocrisy in religion is much easier to recognize because most religions in their "pure forms" are not inherently Evil. Politics on the other hand is by it's very nature and conception Evil and hypocrisy is it's very Foundation and method ....The Ritual of Politics. When Politics and religion is mixed then Politics infects and corrupts religion ... religion does not in itself make politics less Evil. This more than demonstrates why any religion in it's purest form is vastly superior to any political party ot belief. This is constantly evidenced by the threads and posts here. Politics is by it's very Nature essientially Evil ... Religion is not. But I believe long ago that in fact most existing religion was either "invented" or "taken over" by politics. But that is another issue and obviously open to all sorts of debate as well.

Haley's excellent Thread ... "Demonizing the Right" is by far his best to date I feel. Haley you are tireless in creating new threads and I commend you for your enthusiasm and action. This Site would not be the same without you. I find it very interesting to read and even more so by not "participating" although at times the temptation is great.

At any rate I firmly believe that the "Political Filth" are little more than Evil parasites who long ago "fed" using religion and now "feed" using corporation. The simplistic impetus behind their "One World Government" is to make their existence simpler, easier and more complete. Contrl and Conspiracy are the method and employed with utter disregard for Spiritual and Humanistic Considerations. They are quite literally "The Scum of The Earth". Every essientially "good man"" who becomes involved with politics is compromised and taken from his Spiritual Path.

The purposeful and intentional distractions of "debating" Right/Left or Democrat/Republican or Liberal/Conservative or Socialist/Communist or Muslim/Christian quite frankly I find stupid and ignorant ramblings of "The Lost". Patriotism and Nationalism should be applied to the "Self" before expanding outward ... yet another thing that makes any religion vastly superior to any political party.

THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS "SELF" and how this "self relates to the physical world or plane ... not who the Self "votes" for. The "Idea" of a "One World Government" is EVIL and it compromises religion, politics,corporation and most importantly the Individual. It is simply the "Grandest Method of Control" that the filth, the scum, have come up with thus far. THERE IS A BETTER WAY...several in fact.

The "government" is already confiscating, restricting and criminalizing guns, Freedoms, the Constitution, Bill of Rights, morality,religion and even the Veterans. Through corporate method everything that our Ancestors have sacrificed, fought for and died for is being taken away in every country of the entire world now. The scope is immense and most of all the Evil is also immense.

What Glenn states "they will keep trying until they do" is absolutely, undeniably correct unless you are one of the millions of Zombies. Slacker clearly and precisely stated what his beliefs and intentions are as always. Yod, PaperDog and many others do likewise. This is good and should be encouraged.

Anyone who has chosen to follow a Spiritual Path rather than the physical one has "seperated" themselves from the political/corporate filth, the government and any man ade law. This is as it has always been. Also most of us in reality have not really "authorized" as much as we have "allowed" the government to work it's Evils. We are all guilty in this respect but conversly we all comprise and are a part of "The Sleeping Giant" who is now slowly ReAwakening. This is why the "government" who is nothing more now than a fetid collection of Evil and hideous "Banks" ....fears surviving Veterans and armed Citizens and Christians and Muslims ... virtually anyone who believes in "something Higher and more Spiritual" than the hideous whore which is called "government".

This "government" which aspires to become a "One World Goverment" does not "represent" you and is your greatest enemy. "It" is as a spoiled child who "wants it all". It is time to "spank" and to "discipline" this demented child and if that does not work then ???? It is time as Glenn so well states to fully comprehend and fully understand "...government is not as important as the individuals it was created to support". Until this occurs the "spoilt child" will want more and more and more. This child is selfish and literally "worships" only it's own greed and lust for power. This child does not "care" about others ... even it's own parents. It is Evil.

Realization of reality may at first foster a "feeling of giving up" but that passes and the desire to "do something about this unbalanced situation" replaces it. And this is good. It is time to believe in your God, in yourself and assert your Spirituality upon this physical world/plane. Translate your beliefs into actions. Be who you are suppossed to be. Some are and most are not.

This world is an "ILLUSION", a "DREAM" which passes when we die ... and this "Age" is dying. Any can be instrumental in it's passing and the creation of the next. There is no substitute for positive and quick well directed and "right" action. There are however several definitions for inaction ...cowardice ... greed ... ignorance and EVIL. I do wish you all well on your Individual Spiritual Paths and I urge you to "walk that path".



...Scott you are correct it would indeed be a good heavy band name ... properly done it could rattle a lot of people's cages and perhaps ReAwaken them. Timely and relevant. I thank you.

Glenn ...I always appreciate your compliments and support and criticism and perspective and humour. We shall always agree upon FREEDOM.

I wish that I had the ability and finance to bring Slacker, PaperDog, Glenn, Yod, Krammer, Haley, Scotty, Talbot, Planet Guy, Sans, Dane, RGMP, Vinny Guitar Mike, JW and some others to sit round the fire, drink and discuss and debate all night, every night for an entire week and videotape the entire affair and send it out to everyone here who would want it for free and un-edited.

It would be so very interesting and utterly impossible to predict ....unlike FOX News. I truly wonder what the outcome would be ? Each night would have a subject and each person his time and then some lively discussion. I venture to say that we would all depart better friends with a more complete understanding of one another and the world, our purpose and ourselves.

I believe that each of us have the Freedom to choose our own Spirituality. Beyond ourselves this lies with others. We may voice our opinions, discuss, argue, anger or even agree. The FREEDOM to be able to do this is most precious and now at this moment in grave danger. I have learned to try and at least to respect others for having spirituality and Spiritual beliefs and to further try to understand them and contrast them to my own. Whatever .... the choice is clearly a personal one for each and every one of us. I feel that the most important thing to do is "walk the talk" ... that is "practice what you preach" and to not be a hypocrite. Of course this is easier said than done. I admire those who do this the majority of time ... individuals like Yod for instance. These exceptional Individuals should be an inspirational to us all even if we do not agree or believe as they do.

Our lives are a journey.... some go far and others only to the corner store to purchase some drink , but it is all totally relevant. The relationship each of us has within themselves is what is important ... your body ... your mind ... your Spirit. This "Inner Journey" is most important ad more relevant than the "physical". Some know this and others do not. Some will find out and still others will not ... at least in this Circle. It is always a personal decision however this is often ignored in our "passionate interchanges".

Once again we need to all appreciate this Site because it does in fact allow us to "express" ourselves... it still allows a great degree of FREEDOMS. Unfortunately this will come to an end soon. These FREEDOMS may actually one day be "used" against all of us. This makes what is said here even more relevant and important and far reaching. It also makes our own journeys more important.

The ugliest and most Evil thing in my opinion is not religion although obviously I am not overly fond of religion either. It is POLITICS. Religion is Spiritual and therefore more relevant to each of us. Hypocrisy in religion is much easier to recognize because most religions in their "pure forms" are not inherently Evil. Politics on the other hand is by it's very nature and conception Evil and hypocrisy is it's very Foundation and method ....The Ritual of Politics. When Politics and religion is mixed then Politics infects and corrupts religion ... religion does not in itself make politics less Evil. This more than demonstrates why any religion in it's purest form is vastly superior to any political party ot belief. This is constantly evidenced by the threads and posts here. Politics is by it's very Nature essientially Evil ... Religion is not. But I believe long ago that in fact most existing religion was either "invented" or "taken over" by politics. But that is another issue and obviously open to all sorts of debate as well.

Haley's excellent Thread ... "Demonizing the Right" is by far his best to date I feel. Haley you are tireless in creating new threads and I commend you for your enthusiasm and action. This Site would not be the same without you. I find it very interesting to read and even more so by not "participating" although at times the temptation is great.

At any rate I firmly believe that the "Political Filth" are little more than Evil parasites who long ago "fed" using religion and now "feed" using corporation. The simplistic impetus behind their "One World Government" is to make their existence simpler, easier and more complete. Contrl and Conspiracy are the method and employed with utter disregard for Spiritual and Humanistic Considerations. They are quite literally "The Scum of The Earth". Every essientially "good man"" who becomes involved with politics is compromised and taken from his Spiritual Path.

The purposeful and intentional distractions of "debating" Right/Left or Democrat/Republican or Liberal/Conservative or Socialist/Communist or Muslim/Christian quite frankly I find stupid and ignorant ramblings of "The Lost". Patriotism and Nationalism should be applied to the "Self" before expanding outward ... yet another thing that makes any religion vastly superior to any political party.

THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS "SELF" and how this "self relates to the physical world or plane ... not who the Self "votes" for. The "Idea" of a "One World Government" is EVIL and it compromises religion, politics,corporation and most importantly the Individual. It is simply the "Grandest Method of Control" that the filth, the scum, have come up with thus far. THERE IS A BETTER WAY...several in fact.

The "government" is already confiscating, restricting and criminalizing guns, Freedoms, the Constitution, Bill of Rights, morality,religion and even the Veterans. Through corporate method everything that our Ancestors have sacrificed, fought for and died for is being taken away in every country of the entire world now. The scope is immense and most of all the Evil is also immense.

What Glenn states "they will keep trying until they do" is absolutely, undeniably correct unless you are one of the millions of Zombies. Slacker clearly and precisely stated what his beliefs and intentions are as always. Yod, PaperDog and many others do likewise. This is good and should be encouraged.

Anyone who has chosen to follow a Spiritual Path rather than the physical one has "seperated" themselves from the political/corporate filth, the government and any man ade law. This is as it has always been. Also most of us in reality have not really "authorized" as much as we have "allowed" the government to work it's Evils. We are all guilty in this respect but conversly we all comprise and are a part of "The Sleeping Giant" who is now slowly ReAwakening. This is why the "government" who is nothing more now than a fetid collection of Evil and hideous "Banks" ....fears surviving Veterans and armed Citizens and Christians and Muslims ... virtually anyone who believes in "something Higher and more Spiritual" than the hideous whore which is called "government".

This "government" which aspires to become a "One World Goverment" does not "represent" you and is your greatest enemy. "It" is as a spoiled child who "wants it all". It is time to "spank" and to "discipline" this demented child and if that does not work then ???? It is time as Glenn so well states to fully comprehend and fully understand "...government is not as important as the individuals it was created to support". Until this occurs the "spoilt child" will want more and more and more. This child is selfish and literally "worships" only it's own greed and lust for power. This child does not "care" about others ... even it's own parents. It is Evil.

Realization of reality may at first foster a "feeling of giving up" but that passes and the desire to "do something about this unbalanced situation" replaces it. And this is good. It is time to believe in your God, in yourself and assert your Spirituality upon this physical world/plane. Translate your beliefs into actions. Be who you are suppossed to be. Some are and most are not.

This world is an "ILLUSION", a "DREAM" which passes when we die ... and this "Age" is dying. Any can be instrumental in it's passing and the creation of the next. There is no substitute for positive and quick well directed and "right" action. There are however several definitions for inaction ...cowardice ... greed ... ignorance and EVIL. I do wish you all well on your Individual Spiritual Paths and I urge you to "walk that path".

#213852 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Thu May 02, 2013 11:40 pm
Damn it Vamp. We have been over this a hundred million times. You still fuuck it all up.
IT IS Glen. Glenny comes from Jimmy Danger. He was trying to make fun of me... OH WELL.

Great post, very thoughtful thinking. If I went line by line... It would take up the rest of your life. :)

Any way if I can figure out a way to make your party... I'M IN. I'm sure Yod would just figure a way to swing his tour your way. Many folks are not that far from you. I'm IN. :!:

#213855 by Starfish Scott
Thu May 02, 2013 11:50 pm
"Slacker, PaperDog, Glenn, Yod, Krammer, Haley, Scotty, Talbot, Planet Guy, Sans, Dane, RGMix, Vinny, Guitar Mike and JW123".

Isn't that the whole forum? Maybe you left out Cliffy, but I am thinking that's just about everybody who reads/contributes to the forum.

Try asking the govt. for a grant, they give out money to the oddest of enterprises of late. I figure we got a 50-50 chance. lol

#213872 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Fri May 03, 2013 12:25 am
Starfish Scott wrote:"Slacker, PaperDog, Glenn, Yod, Krammer, Haley, Scotty, Talbot, Planet Guy, Sans, Dane, RGMix, Vinny, Guitar Mike and JW123".

Isn't that the whole forum? Maybe you left out Cliffy, but I am thinking that's just about everybody who reads/contributes to the forum.

Try asking the govt. for a grant, they give out money to the oddest of enterprises of late. I figure we got a 50-50 chance. lol


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

#213876 by Slacker G
Fri May 03, 2013 12:50 am
Starfish Scott wrote:"Slacker, PaperDog, Glenn, Yod, Krammer, Haley, Scotty, Talbot, Planet Guy, Sans, Dane, RGMix, Vinny, Guitar Mike and JW123".

Isn't that the whole forum? Maybe you left out Cliffy, but I am thinking that's just about everybody who reads/contributes to the forum.

Try asking the govt. for a grant, they give out money to the oddest of enterprises of late. I figure we got a 50-50 chance. lol


Simple task Scott . We simply tell our government that we are illegals that just came up from Mexico in response to the TV adds for free stuff for illegal aliens that your president offers to Mexican Nationals during Spanish television soap operas, in case they somehow find themselves within US borders. Then we ask for our benefits and some grant money.


.
#213878 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Fri May 03, 2013 12:58 am
Vampier wrote:...Scott you are correct it would indeed be a good heavy band name ... properly done it could rattle a lot of people's cages and perhaps ReAwaken them. Timely and relevant. I thank you.

Glenn ...I always appreciate your compliments and support and criticism and perspective and humour. We shall always agree upon FREEDOM.

I wish that I had the ability and finance to bring Slacker, PaperDog, Glenn, Yod, Krammer, Haley, Scotty, Talbot, Planet Guy, Sans, Dane, RGMP, Vinny Guitar Mike, JW and some others to sit round the fire, drink and discuss and debate all night, every night for an entire week and videotape the entire affair and send it out to everyone here who would want it for free and un-edited.

It would be so very interesting and utterly impossible to predict ....unlike FOX News. I truly wonder what the outcome would be ? Each night would have a subject and each person his time and then some lively discussion. I venture to say that we would all depart better friends with a more complete understanding of one another and the world, our purpose and ourselves.

I believe that each of us have the Freedom to choose our own Spirituality. Beyond ourselves this lies with others. We may voice our opinions, discuss, argue, anger or even agree. The FREEDOM to be able to do this is most precious and now at this moment in grave danger. I have learned to try and at least to respect others for having spirituality and Spiritual beliefs and to further try to understand them and contrast them to my own. Whatever .... the choice is clearly a personal one for each and every one of us. I feel that the most important thing to do is "walk the talk" ... that is "practice what you preach" and to not be a hypocrite. Of course this is easier said than done. I admire those who do this the majority of time ... individuals like Yod for instance. These exceptional Individuals should be an inspirational to us all even if we do not agree or believe as they do.

Our lives are a journey.... some go far and others only to the corner store to purchase some drink , but it is all totally relevant. The relationship each of us has within themselves is what is important ... your body ... your mind ... your Spirit. This "Inner Journey" is most important ad more relevant than the "physical". Some know this and others do not. Some will find out and still others will not ... at least in this Circle. It is always a personal decision however this is often ignored in our "passionate interchanges".

Once again we need to all appreciate this Site because it does in fact allow us to "express" ourselves... it still allows a great degree of FREEDOMS. Unfortunately this will come to an end soon. These FREEDOMS may actually one day be "used" against all of us. This makes what is said here even more relevant and important and far reaching. It also makes our own journeys more important.

The ugliest and most Evil thing in my opinion is not religion although obviously I am not overly fond of religion either. It is POLITICS. Religion is Spiritual and therefore more relevant to each of us. Hypocrisy in religion is much easier to recognize because most religions in their "pure forms" are not inherently Evil. Politics on the other hand is by it's very nature and conception Evil and hypocrisy is it's very Foundation and method ....The Ritual of Politics. When Politics and religion is mixed then Politics infects and corrupts religion ... religion does not in itself make politics less Evil. This more than demonstrates why any religion in it's purest form is vastly superior to any political party ot belief. This is constantly evidenced by the threads and posts here. Politics is by it's very Nature essientially Evil ... Religion is not. But I believe long ago that in fact most existing religion was either "invented" or "taken over" by politics. But that is another issue and obviously open to all sorts of debate as well.

Haley's excellent Thread ... "Demonizing the Right" is by far his best to date I feel. Haley you are tireless in creating new threads and I commend you for your enthusiasm and action. This Site would not be the same without you. I find it very interesting to read and even more so by not "participating" although at times the temptation is great.

At any rate I firmly believe that the "Political Filth" are little more than Evil parasites who long ago "fed" using religion and now "feed" using corporation. The simplistic impetus behind their "One World Government" is to make their existence simpler, easier and more complete. Contrl and Conspiracy are the method and employed with utter disregard for Spiritual and Humanistic Considerations. They are quite literally "The Scum of The Earth". Every essientially "good man"" who becomes involved with politics is compromised and taken from his Spiritual Path.

The purposeful and intentional distractions of "debating" Right/Left or Democrat/Republican or Liberal/Conservative or Socialist/Communist or Muslim/Christian quite frankly I find stupid and ignorant ramblings of "The Lost". Patriotism and Nationalism should be applied to the "Self" before expanding outward ... yet another thing that makes any religion vastly superior to any political party.

THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS "SELF" and how this "self relates to the physical world or plane ... not who the Self "votes" for. The "Idea" of a "One World Government" is EVIL and it compromises religion, politics,corporation and most importantly the Individual. It is simply the "Grandest Method of Control" that the filth, the scum, have come up with thus far. THERE IS A BETTER WAY...several in fact.

The "government" is already confiscating, restricting and criminalizing guns, Freedoms, the Constitution, Bill of Rights, morality,religion and even the Veterans. Through corporate method everything that our Ancestors have sacrificed, fought for and died for is being taken away in every country of the entire world now. The scope is immense and most of all the Evil is also immense.

What Glenn states "they will keep trying until they do" is absolutely, undeniably correct unless you are one of the millions of Zombies. Slacker clearly and precisely stated what his beliefs and intentions are as always. Yod, PaperDog and many others do likewise. This is good and should be encouraged.

Anyone who has chosen to follow a Spiritual Path rather than the physical one has "seperated" themselves from the political/corporate filth, the government and any man ade law. This is as it has always been. Also most of us in reality have not really "authorized" as much as we have "allowed" the government to work it's Evils. We are all guilty in this respect but conversly we all comprise and are a part of "The Sleeping Giant" who is now slowly ReAwakening. This is why the "government" who is nothing more now than a fetid collection of Evil and hideous "Banks" ....fears surviving Veterans and armed Citizens and Christians and Muslims ... virtually anyone who believes in "something Higher and more Spiritual" than the hideous whore which is called "government".

This "government" which aspires to become a "One World Goverment" does not "represent" you and is your greatest enemy. "It" is as a spoiled child who "wants it all". It is time to "spank" and to "discipline" this demented child and if that does not work then ???? It is time as Glenn so well states to fully comprehend and fully understand "...government is not as important as the individuals it was created to support". Until this occurs the "spoilt child" will want more and more and more. This child is selfish and literally "worships" only it's own greed and lust for power. This child does not "care" about others ... even it's own parents. It is Evil.

Realization of reality may at first foster a "feeling of giving up" but that passes and the desire to "do something about this unbalanced situation" replaces it. And this is good. It is time to believe in your God, in yourself and assert your Spirituality upon this physical world/plane. Translate your beliefs into actions. Be who you are suppossed to be. Some are and most are not.

This world is an "ILLUSION", a "DREAM" which passes when we die ... and this "Age" is dying. Any can be instrumental in it's passing and the creation of the next. There is no substitute for positive and quick well directed and "right" action. There are however several definitions for inaction ...cowardice ... greed ... ignorance and EVIL. I do wish you all well on your Individual Spiritual Paths and I urge you to "walk that path".



...Scott you are correct it would indeed be a good heavy band name ... properly done it could rattle a lot of people's cages and perhaps ReAwaken them. Timely and relevant. I thank you.

Glenn ...I always appreciate your compliments and support and criticism and perspective and humour. We shall always agree upon FREEDOM.

I wish that I had the ability and finance to bring Slacker, PaperDog, Glenn, Yod, Krammer, Haley, Scotty, Talbot, Planet Guy, Sans, Dane, RGMP, Vinny Guitar Mike, JW and some others to sit round the fire, drink and discuss and debate all night, every night for an entire week and videotape the entire affair and send it out to everyone here who would want it for free and un-edited.

It would be so very interesting and utterly impossible to predict ....unlike FOX News. I truly wonder what the outcome would be ? Each night would have a subject and each person his time and then some lively discussion. I venture to say that we would all depart better friends with a more complete understanding of one another and the world, our purpose and ourselves.

I believe that each of us have the Freedom to choose our own Spirituality. Beyond ourselves this lies with others. We may voice our opinions, discuss, argue, anger or even agree. The FREEDOM to be able to do this is most precious and now at this moment in grave danger. I have learned to try and at least to respect others for having spirituality and Spiritual beliefs and to further try to understand them and contrast them to my own. Whatever .... the choice is clearly a personal one for each and every one of us. I feel that the most important thing to do is "walk the talk" ... that is "practice what you preach" and to not be a hypocrite. Of course this is easier said than done. I admire those who do this the majority of time ... individuals like Yod for instance. These exceptional Individuals should be an inspirational to us all even if we do not agree or believe as they do.

Our lives are a journey.... some go far and others only to the corner store to purchase some drink , but it is all totally relevant. The relationship each of us has within themselves is what is important ... your body ... your mind ... your Spirit. This "Inner Journey" is most important ad more relevant than the "physical". Some know this and others do not. Some will find out and still others will not ... at least in this Circle. It is always a personal decision however this is often ignored in our "passionate interchanges".

Once again we need to all appreciate this Site because it does in fact allow us to "express" ourselves... it still allows a great degree of FREEDOMS. Unfortunately this will come to an end soon. These FREEDOMS may actually one day be "used" against all of us. This makes what is said here even more relevant and important and far reaching. It also makes our own journeys more important.

The ugliest and most Evil thing in my opinion is not religion although obviously I am not overly fond of religion either. It is POLITICS. Religion is Spiritual and therefore more relevant to each of us. Hypocrisy in religion is much easier to recognize because most religions in their "pure forms" are not inherently Evil. Politics on the other hand is by it's very nature and conception Evil and hypocrisy is it's very Foundation and method ....The Ritual of Politics. When Politics and religion is mixed then Politics infects and corrupts religion ... religion does not in itself make politics less Evil. This more than demonstrates why any religion in it's purest form is vastly superior to any political party ot belief. This is constantly evidenced by the threads and posts here. Politics is by it's very Nature essientially Evil ... Religion is not. But I believe long ago that in fact most existing religion was either "invented" or "taken over" by politics. But that is another issue and obviously open to all sorts of debate as well.

Haley's excellent Thread ... "Demonizing the Right" is by far his best to date I feel. Haley you are tireless in creating new threads and I commend you for your enthusiasm and action. This Site would not be the same without you. I find it very interesting to read and even more so by not "participating" although at times the temptation is great.

At any rate I firmly believe that the "Political Filth" are little more than Evil parasites who long ago "fed" using religion and now "feed" using corporation. The simplistic impetus behind their "One World Government" is to make their existence simpler, easier and more complete. Contrl and Conspiracy are the method and employed with utter disregard for Spiritual and Humanistic Considerations. They are quite literally "The Scum of The Earth". Every essientially "good man"" who becomes involved with politics is compromised and taken from his Spiritual Path.

The purposeful and intentional distractions of "debating" Right/Left or Democrat/Republican or Liberal/Conservative or Socialist/Communist or Muslim/Christian quite frankly I find stupid and ignorant ramblings of "The Lost". Patriotism and Nationalism should be applied to the "Self" before expanding outward ... yet another thing that makes any religion vastly superior to any political party.

THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS "SELF" and how this "self relates to the physical world or plane ... not who the Self "votes" for. The "Idea" of a "One World Government" is EVIL and it compromises religion, politics,corporation and most importantly the Individual. It is simply the "Grandest Method of Control" that the filth, the scum, have come up with thus far. THERE IS A BETTER WAY...several in fact.

The "government" is already confiscating, restricting and criminalizing guns, Freedoms, the Constitution, Bill of Rights, morality,religion and even the Veterans. Through corporate method everything that our Ancestors have sacrificed, fought for and died for is being taken away in every country of the entire world now. The scope is immense and most of all the Evil is also immense.

What Glenn states "they will keep trying until they do" is absolutely, undeniably correct unless you are one of the millions of Zombies. Slacker clearly and precisely stated what his beliefs and intentions are as always. Yod, PaperDog and many others do likewise. This is good and should be encouraged.

Anyone who has chosen to follow a Spiritual Path rather than the physical one has "seperated" themselves from the political/corporate filth, the government and any man ade law. This is as it has always been. Also most of us in reality have not really "authorized" as much as we have "allowed" the government to work it's Evils. We are all guilty in this respect but conversly we all comprise and are a part of "The Sleeping Giant" who is now slowly ReAwakening. This is why the "government" who is nothing more now than a fetid collection of Evil and hideous "Banks" ....fears surviving Veterans and armed Citizens and Christians and Muslims ... virtually anyone who believes in "something Higher and more Spiritual" than the hideous whore which is called "government".

This "government" which aspires to become a "One World Goverment" does not "represent" you and is your greatest enemy. "It" is as a spoiled child who "wants it all". It is time to "spank" and to "discipline" this demented child and if that does not work then ???? It is time as Glenn so well states to fully comprehend and fully understand "...government is not as important as the individuals it was created to support". Until this occurs the "spoilt child" will want more and more and more. This child is selfish and literally "worships" only it's own greed and lust for power. This child does not "care" about others ... even it's own parents. It is Evil.

Realization of reality may at first foster a "feeling of giving up" but that passes and the desire to "do something about this unbalanced situation" replaces it. And this is good. It is time to believe in your God, in yourself and assert your Spirituality upon this physical world/plane. Translate your beliefs into actions. Be who you are suppossed to be. Some are and most are not.

This world is an "ILLUSION", a "DREAM" which passes when we die ... and this "Age" is dying. Any can be instrumental in it's passing and the creation of the next. There is no substitute for positive and quick well directed and "right" action. There are however several definitions for inaction ...cowardice ... greed ... ignorance and EVIL. I do wish you all well on your Individual Spiritual Paths and I urge you to "walk that path".


Many wise words friend!

#213882 by Starfish Scott
Fri May 03, 2013 1:20 am
I feel like I'd be doing better if I was an illegal and on welfare.

That way I could play all night and sleep all day.

(no offense to anyone intended, my life is a toilet and it don't flush) lol

#213917 by Slacker G
Fri May 03, 2013 2:05 pm
This is why the "government" who is nothing more now than a fetid collection of Evil and hideous "Banks" ....fears surviving Veterans and armed Citizens and Christians and Muslims ... virtually anyone who believes in "something Higher and more Spiritual" than the hideous whore which is called "government".


Note that Christians, veterans, RADICAL CONSTITUTIONALISTS, and RADICAL PRO-LIFERS have all made it to the terrorist watch list. However they still need to pass their national registration / background checks to put NRA members and all gun owners on the list.

But where are the Muslims on that list? Where are the Leftist terrorists on that list? Why aren't those government leaders, those radical tyrants employed by American taxpayers and hired by us, those who are dedicated to destroying our freedom, the Constitution, and our Bill of Rights from inside not on that list?
#213936 by Vampier
Fri May 03, 2013 5:46 pm
....Glen I thank you for your forgiving patience ... my Mother and my Wife would understand and be sympathetic. Glen ... Glen ... Glen ... Glen ... there I think I may have fixed it now by creating a ne neuron pathway in my rotting brain. It will be fine until my next drink. I will give more thought to finding a way of possibly getting you guys here as that would be a true gathering of "Titans" {in our own minds) and just the alchohol bill alone would boost the local economy.

Scott ... It is in some aspects the whole Forum. Cliffy I have not really had "interchange" with and we all may make him weep. There is indeed a possibility of a grant ... instead of "Fast and Furious" it could be called "Slow and Fun" with "booze" replacing guns at the taxpayers expense and drunkedness replacing murder and beheading. Or it might be expanded upon and become "Bohemian Dune".

Slackers approach might possibly work as well. One way or another we would of course have to "play" some music both before the Fire during the day and afterwards late each day and night as well. We could make a CD Box set...marketed in old Beer Cases ... "Round the Fire" or something as a title.

Slacker ... Excellent Post ... Thank You ... Muslims are not yet on the list, after all the "president" is a Muslim and at the moment that religion seems to be the "favorite child" at present. Later when "they" have done their "great work" then it will be time for the Muslims to take the "shower". Virtually all those you mentioned will be having their turn as the "Grand Idea" slowly eats itself. I feel the big question is the swinging of "The Pendelum of Evil"... will it be able to cull and exterminate and torture enough before even the most braindead "realize" the danger ? or will despite it's swinging will enough of the livestock awaiting slaughter ReAwaken in time to rise up and eradicate the Evil from the face of this planet ? Either way it seems that part of the "plan" is murder on a huge scale. The "Guns" seem to be the deciding factor here and that issue is being now more "actively" pursued by the "government" than ever before. We will not have to wait long for the answer ...

....somewhere in this game the pawns must be disarmed... the soldiers "retired". The "Bishops" have long been taken along with the "King" and "Queen" and now the cornors or "Rooks" are being assailed. The only "hope" seems to be lies with the "Knights" whose numbersare few and of which many of these have been compromised, corrupted or rendered toothless by false promises to sate their greed and ignorance. Of course the "Pawns" when finally "cornored" will fight even with their hands and teeth ... but the strategy put into place will negate this turning it into an "Entertainment of Extinction". The roting pyramids must be dismembered ... the eyes put out and the Banners of Freedom and Humanity raised high and made into "Standards" of batle. Only then will the remaining Knights gather to fight and to die. The key must be turned upon itself and the preplanned Battle of Extinction avoided. As the system was corrupted and turned upon itself and the rules changed ... then this corruption and Evil must be used upon itself and after such purge then the rules may be restored and guarded in future against such threat. This "Enlightenment" can only be lasting however if mankind evolves from it's animalistic state and becomes somehow enlightened spiritually.

All this is only glimpsed by myself as I do not possess the facility to bring it into a clear focus. I can only see around me a few squares upon the board where even now the children die in growing numbers from poisons put forth for such purpose by those who would and profess to "lead". Their motivation is everything that is Evil making them stupid, inhuman and doomed without even their own knowledge of such. The masses flock regularly to hear their LIES and participate in their SESSIONS OF HATE ... dreaming only the small dreams which they are "told" and only capable of... simple litle dreams of impossible fantasy which are never questioned as they are distracted ... dumbed to Death.

The only "hope" lies now with the Knights as only they can reach the Bishops and move unexpectedly with swords drawn. It is only they who can do battle with the dead zombie armies. It is time for the Hearalds and Minstrals to "Call" for great deeds and new heroes not only relating those of old.

Inspiration must come from above not below. The Pawns must be urged to resist and power ... led by Knights ... ReAwoken with sweet song. The blight has come behind veils and curtains of Lies in the Dark and it must be put to death in the same manner avoiding if possible the sword and unequal battle.

Such call, intrigue and meeting must be done under the watchful electronic eyes which are now everywhere even floating in the skies. Silent, unseen movement and word born of a higher place than the fetid mud in which we all wallow staggering and seeping our Ancestors Blood. Let such Blood not seep or run needlessly and in desperation but with intellect and spirit as it's guide.

The board must be changed and the deck reshuffled before the Die of Chance is thrown. Only if that pathetic, tragic and sad creature that has become known as man can cease and reverse the turning of this world, can this passing Age matter and the next be born of hope. If not nature will do it's work and the next Age will not see man or his offspring in any form. Nature will turn this planet to revolve the way it should, restoring, reversing it's direction.

The scratchings of those who now "lead"... their Lies of action and deed ... are all doomed either way. We must all take some comfort in this. No King, no Queen nor Bishop can direct this away and no Knight nor Pawn will find a Rook to shelter them.

The only hope, the only chance for this coming age to be "Enlightened" NOT GOLDEN?DEAD... is the Honest Pawn and the Noble Knight. The stupid dream and label of "Golden Age", past and future is a Lie and based only upon Ancient Evil which has no place with man once he has left his present state of slavery and animal behind him.

#213941 by PaperDog
Fri May 03, 2013 6:29 pm
Vampier:
Muslims are not yet on the list, after all the "president" is a Muslim and at the moment that religion seems to be the "favorite child" at present. Later when "they" have done their "great work" then it will be time for the Muslims to take the "shower". Virtually all those you mentioned will be having their turn as the "Grand Idea" slowly eats itself. I feel the big question is the swinging of "The Pendelum of Evil"... will it be able to cull and exterminate and torture enough before even the most braindead "realize" the danger ? or will despite it's swinging will enough of the livestock awaiting slaughter ReAwaken in time to rise up and eradicate the Evil from the face of this planet ? Either way it seems that part of the "plan" is murder on a huge scale. The "Guns" seem to be the deciding factor here and that issue is being now more "actively" pursued by the "government" than ever before. We will not have to wait long for the answer ...


All I can say with certainty is that all this goes better with bacon. ;)

#213973 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Fri May 03, 2013 10:30 pm
PaperDog wrote:Vampier:
Muslims are not yet on the list, after all the "president" is a Muslim and at the moment that religion seems to be the "favorite child" at present. Later when "they" have done their "great work" then it will be time for the Muslims to take the "shower". Virtually all those you mentioned will be having their turn as the "Grand Idea" slowly eats itself. I feel the big question is the swinging of "The Pendelum of Evil"... will it be able to cull and exterminate and torture enough before even the most braindead "realize" the danger ? or will despite it's swinging will enough of the livestock awaiting slaughter ReAwaken in time to rise up and eradicate the Evil from the face of this planet ? Either way it seems that part of the "plan" is murder on a huge scale. The "Guns" seem to be the deciding factor here and that issue is being now more "actively" pursued by the "government" than ever before. We will not have to wait long for the answer ...



PRETTY FUUCKING amazing... Isn't it?

All I can say with certainty is that all this goes better with bacon. ;)


PRETTY FUUCKING amazing... Isn't it?

#213979 by Slacker G
Fri May 03, 2013 11:09 pm
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

I went to a small gun shop the other day and they actually had ammo on the shelves. 9mm 40mm 38 44 45 & 50. They also had some FMJ truncated cone 22LR. I haven't seen 9mm on the shelves for some time, and 22LR haven't been around much either.

Today I walked into a Sheels store and the guy was stocking their ammo shelves to the brim.

They have a 2 box limit, I can understand that. I'm not greedy anyway, Sheels really brought in a load of stuff. And their gun showcases were also filled to capacity.

I find it rather hard to believe that the government hording is actually lightening up enough to let a few shipments slide through. I must have been at the right places at the right times.

Anyone else finding stocked ammo shelves?

#213983 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Fri May 03, 2013 11:50 pm
Slacker G wrote::shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

I went to a small gun shop the other day and they actually had ammo on the shelves. 9mm 40mm 38 44 45 & 50. They also had some FMJ truncated cone 22LR. I haven't seen 9mm on the shelves for some time, and 22LR haven't been around much either.

Today I walked into a Sheels store and the guy was stocking their ammo shelves to the brim.

They have a 2 box limit, I can understand that. I'm not greedy anyway, Sheels really brought in a load of stuff. And their gun showcases were also filled to capacity.


I find it rather hard to believe that the government hording is actually lightening up enough to let a few shipments slide through. I must have been at the right places at the right times.

Anyone else finding stocked ammo shelves?



Out of 22, 223, 308, and strangely LAPUA 338. Available 9 mm 45 cowboys, 3006,and 44. Even win mag are in limited supply. Hand gun supplies are coming back.

Local gun dealers are selling plastic coffins cheap... Seems FEMA, overbought.

OH WELL...

#213984 by Starfish Scott
Sat May 04, 2013 12:01 am
learn to handload..and soon.

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