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Wow, all this politics and religion mixed into one thread of disgust and misuse.

Gee, makes me want to hop up on your dinner table and drop a DEUCE right on your plate. lol That's what it feels like every time I read this type of diatribe.

TP anyone? Someone sure needs it..wipe your mouth too !!!

Unfortunately, I don't think any of it will sink in with most of
of the challengers here, who are against Christianity and Judaism, Their minds are made up and it is likely there is way too much hubris in them. (The same hubris which caused them to hurl this list at you in the first place)

They came by it honestly. I don't blame them because I used to be just like that. It has been now 23 years of studying that led me here. The truth is available for anyone who wants to see it, yea wisdom screams from the courtyards and alleys to all who pass by, but it does require a little work to find the truth sometimes. It's much easier to quote verses out of context.

I welcome the opportunity to answer their objections, and don't expect history to be undone in a single post or thread. I actually agree with the underlying premise that whenever any "religion" is in political power there are abuses. That's why our Constitution guarantees there can never be a State Religion, like Europe had at the time. It was Christians who made sure of that.

Jews allow freedom of religion in Israel, too, as evidenced by the population just voting the religious parties out of power.

Show me an Islamic nation with an Islamic government that allows freedom of SPEECH, much less freedom of religion, the press, property rights, etc.

Iran and Egypt have tried it recently.






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Wow, all this politics and religion mixed into one thread of disgust and misuse.

Gee, makes me want to hop up on your dinner table and drop a DEUCE right on your plate. lol That's what it feels like every time I read this type of diatribe.

TP anyone? Someone sure needs it..wipe your mouth too !!!

can I offer you a breath mint?

What did I say "infidel" again>?

Otherwise, it's you who need the breath mint, you zealot.
It's a shame you don't turn that political energy into musical effort(s).
(you already know the rest of that remark)



DEAR Foreign Entity,

Please invade/attack/hack someone else's machine, I am officially apolitical and religious only in that I believe in god and ability to help others, regardless of what they think. (you turn the other cheek)

I think we should stop meddling in the affairs of others and stop trying to police the entire world when we have a lot wrong in our own country we could be fixing instead of looking at what others are up to.

In short, Ted here feels very strongly about that which is none of his business. (imo)

Plenty of other victims here, choose another one because this one is a "non-participant in this musical forum gone political". It's a bad joke and I'm not laughing at all.

Ted you strike me as a sh*t eater of great renown. (not your first or last breathe mint, right?)
You sure you're not a politician in disguise? Lobbyist? close facsimile thereof?

What did I say "infidel" again>?

Otherwise, it's you who need the breath mint, you zealot.
It's a shame you don't turn that political energy into musical effort(s).
(you already know the rest of that remark)

(you turn the other cheek)

I think we should stop meddling in the affairs of others and stop trying to police the entire world when we have a lot wrong in our own country we could be fixing instead of looking at what others are up to.

In short, Ted here feels very strongly about that which is none of his business. (imo)

Plenty of other victims here, choose another one because this one is a "non-participant in this musical forum gone political". It's a bad joke and I'm not laughing at all.

Ted you strike me as a sh*t eater of great renown. (not your first or last breathe mint, right?)
You sure you're not a politician in disguise? Lobbyist? close facsimile thereof?

I do more musical effort in a single day that you will in your obviously bitter life, but that has no bearing on what is true and what is a lie. The truth is that God has not rejected you, but you have rejected the Truth.

Lie to yourself if cognitive dissonance makes you happy. Have fun with that.

DEAR Foreign Entity,

Please invade/attack/hack someone else's machine, I am officially apolitical and religious only in that I believe in god and ability to help others, regardless of what they think.

you think you were hacked because you have opinions on bandmix? Everyone else would be getting hacked too if that were true.

It's probably all the porn sites you're visiting.









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This amused me for about 30 seconds

http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/c ... quran.html


Which is more violent, the Bible or the Quran? Is there a way to objectively answer such a question?

Well, it wouldn't be easy. But it is possible to compare the amount of cruelty and violence in the two books. Here is a summary of the highlighted verses in the SAB and SAQ.

Number of Cruel or Violent Passages
Bible 842
Quran 333

So the Bible has more than twice as many cruel or violent passages as does the Quran. But the Bible is a much bigger book. How do they compare when size is taken into account?

Violence and Cruelty Total verses Percent
Bible 842 31102 2.71
Quran 333 6236 5.34

When expressed as a percentage of cruel or violent verses (at least as marked in the SAB/Q), the Quran has about twice that of the Bible. (5.34 vs. 2.71%)*

Of course this analysis does not consider the extent of the cruelty in the marked passages. And that is an important consideration. Is Numbers 31:14-18, for example, more cruel than Quran 5:34? That is something that each person must decide.

A good argument could be made that either book is the most violent and cruel book ever written. The award would go to one or the other, for neither has any close competitors. It is frightening to think that more than half of the world's population believes in one or the other.

*The actual percentages are probably somewhat higher, since not all cruel or violent passages are marked in the SAB/Q and many of the marked passages contain more than a single verse.

so ted, i have to ask since i know you consider yourself a devout follower of the bible.

by your reasoning above.....do you cotton to these tenets that are put forth in the bible?

I'm SO glad you asked!






As mentioned in an earlier place, these verses taken by themselves lack all context for who said it and why.

Should I go through each one individually?

i wish you would have waited for me to answer. the answer being "no".

every time you, or anyone else takes the time to explain the TRUE meaning of each of those examples from the bible....you just keep my my point again, and again.

my point being ( this is now the umpteenth and last time i'll lay it out ) was, and remains that you defenders of the bible and christianity will explain the TRUE nature of god's intentions and wishes are and cry "Yeah, those few lines taken out of context don't reflect the whole story and don't represent what true christianity is about."

and a non violent, non radical muslim could just as easily point to equally the koran's outrageous calls to bloodletting from god above......and give you their TRUE meaning of what those verses are about... and what allah's TRUE intentions, and wishes are...next, they would probably shout out in the same words you used... ""Yeah, those few lines taken out of context don't reflect the whole story and don't represent what true islam is about."

this is getting old and if we were jawing over this w a cpl of good beers before us (ted, slacker, george, glen, grant, kg) it would likely be more enjoyable....as it is, i am saying asta la vista to this thread... and hopefully these kinds of discussions in general around here. (yeah, and now, WHO'S taking bets on long i'll be doing THAT kind of refraining.)


one thing that i do hope i've gotten across is that i have no problem w anyone's religious beliefs. whatever floats yer boat as my mom likes to say.

go w god. (or not)

I was going to respond to specific points, but it looks like planetguy laid it all out pretty well.
thanks PG.

To the rest of you: Thanks for all the insults and hate guys.. pretty much you all have proven my views of typical american christians to be accurate and true. Why are you guys so full of hatred, apathy, and superiority, yet preach otherwise? Your bible is full of hatred and violence, yet all you can do is point out the exact same thing from other religions. You are walking contradictions, to the extreme.

Whatever. Nobody can fix group delusions.

You just sound like a whiny little cry-baby right now... You assert your silly statements in the shark tank, and then you complain when you get feedback. I think it's hilarious how, on the heels of your own salvo-lobbing, you then try to redirect the attention off of you, by pointing out to others all their shortcomings...

"Yod" you are as inane as your handle.
Just what the f**k is a "YOD" anyway?

Don't tell me that it's that "ass-trological" crap.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yod_%28astrology%29

And if you have been all the places you say you've been and you are still a nobody as in you are about as well known as a wheat penny in China, I'd think you'd realize that's it's all been for naught, jr ginger ale sucker.

PS: I liked your old pic, you know the one of the old guy looking like he has to crap. That one I believe.

Just like people that feel it's their duty to beat religion into other people heads should be put to death. (Mind your own business, dickhead.)

Believe what you like, but STFU about it. Were you also in the seminary, because you sound like a preacher? You get caught corking the kids?

"Music", you know your other hobby besides spouting bullshit about religion and politics.

I know, I know, time to put your old soiled ass on ignore.
Race ya to it.. lol Ya fecking ned

You know what a "Yob" is, right? That's probably more accurate.

Chav don't forget your burberry cap, eh?
100% mental masturbation and 0% musical inspiration, who could want more>?

You are better off going back attempting the queen latifah with your wife, you yawn ponger. lol

so ted, i have to ask since i know you consider yourself a devout follower of the bible.

by your reasoning above.....do you cotton to these tenets that are put forth in the bible?

I'm SO glad you asked!






As mentioned in an earlier place, these verses taken by themselves lack all context for who said it and why.

Should I go through each one individually?

i wish you would have waited for me to answer. the answer being "no".

every time you, or anyone else takes the time to explain the TRUE meaning of each of those examples from the bible....you just keep my my point again, and again.

my point being ( this is now the umpteenth and last time i'll lay it out ) was, and remains that you defenders of the bible and christianity will explain the TRUE nature of god's intentions and wishes are and cry "Yeah, those few lines taken out of context don't reflect the whole story and don't represent what true christianity is about."

and a non violent, non radical muslim could just as easily point to equally the koran's outrageous calls to bloodletting from god above......and give you their TRUE meaning of what those verses are about... and what allah's TRUE intentions, and wishes are...next, they would probably shout out in the same words you used... ""Yeah, those few lines taken out of context don't reflect the whole story and don't represent what true islam is about."

this is getting old and if we were jawing over this w a cpl of good beers before us (ted, slacker, george, glen, grant, kg) it would likely be more enjoyable....as it is, i am saying asta la vista to this thread... and hopefully these kinds of discussions in general around here. (yeah, and now, WHO'S taking bets on long i'll be doing THAT kind of refraining.)


one thing that i do hope i've gotten across is that i have no problem w anyone's religious beliefs. whatever floats yer boat as my mom likes to say.

go w god. (or not)

Mark, do you Promise this will be the last time you lay it out for us? Thank you!

Vin is that the Yod family values tour pic or what? lol

"Er ist anders gepolt".

What did I say "infidel" again>?

Otherwise, it's you who need the breath mint, you zealot.
It's a shame you don't turn that political energy into musical effort(s).
(you already know the rest of that remark)



DEAR Foreign Entity,

Please invade/attack/hack someone else's machine, I am officially apolitical and religious only in that I believe in god and ability to help others, regardless of what they think. (you turn the other cheek)

I think we should stop meddling in the affairs of others and stop trying to police the entire world when we have a lot wrong in our own country we could be fixing instead of looking at what others are up to.

In short, Ted here feels very strongly about that which is none of his business. (imo)

Plenty of other victims here, choose another one because this one is a "non-participant in this musical forum gone political". It's a bad joke and I'm not laughing at all.

Ted you strike me as a sh*t eater of great renown. (not your first or last breathe mint, right?)
You sure you're not a politician in disguise? Lobbyist? close facsimile thereof?

Scott that wasn't nice. Come on over and I will spend HOURS explaining why... You, as a great American citizen are JUST BEING FUUCKED OVER.

You sound frustrated. It is only going to get worse.
The music has become very stale, the great creativity of the 60s,70s up to today is being stepped on. The authoritarian government we have allowed is very afraid of uncontrollable musicians. This has happened before. Music has fallen under the same scrutiny of all media. WITHOUT FREEDOM, YOU WILL NEVER HAVE MUSIC.

Oh I am just getting warmed to this B97 pool hall.

I may go take a powder anyway, f**k it. May as well go upper deck. lol

These fecking neds are b331z to the max, the only thing missing is the sheep.

AND WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT?

NOTHING.