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#212781 by CliffordN25
Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:11 pm
I mean, ALL I did was ask a simple question, covered a few problems I'm encountering with how people respond to my direct ad, and instead of reaching guys around my age who have a relaxed spirit, it reaches guys who are very macho, and who love to troll someone who isn't part of the majority.

The same crap happened previously on Baton Rouge Rocks, where I'd run into pretty much the same thing.

I mean, this is ALL I seem to be running into lately. Why is that?

#212785 by jw123
Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:23 pm
Clifford I wish you luck in your quest, it takes tough skin.

All of us old timers are very territorial, and if someone doesnt fit in, then we all tend to turn on them.

BUT, just keep at it, hopefully you will connect with some like minded people!

#212786 by CliffordN25
Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:26 pm
jw123 wrote:Clifford I wish you luck in your quest, it takes tough skin.

All of us old timers are very territorial, and if someone doesnt fit in, then we all tend to turn on them.

BUT, just keep at it, hopefully you will connect with some like minded people!


See? Why couldn't the responses have been more like that instead of people insulting me?

And sir, you also have to keep in mind that I need to have a wider variety of places to place an ad. This is the only place I have left, and it's not working, probably due to the fact that the audience I'm trying to reach is not going to want to pay for the premier membership, and thus cannot respond. And there are way too many gig/band minded musicians on here. I need to be on a site which attracts people who do play music, but who simply do it for enjoyment, but are not necessarily looking for gigs or a band.

Remember, I am looking for a guy friend around my age who just happens to share my passion for playing a wide mix of pop and soft rock from the 80s to the present. I am not interested in pursuing a music career. If anyone is inviting me into their band, or wants to hire me to work with them, that person will be turned down. Conversely, I wouldn't mind networking with said person in order to find what I requested on my profile.

#212790 by jw123
Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:53 pm
Clifford I understand from reading your post what you are looking for, I just dont know where to tell you to find it.

But I hope you do find it.

#212799 by CliffordN25
Mon Apr 22, 2013 4:17 pm
jw123 wrote:Clifford I understand from reading your post what you are looking for, I just dont know where to tell you to find it.

But I hope you do find it.


I appreciate that. I just wish that more people like you would respond.
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#212818 by Starfish Scott
Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:36 pm
Cliffy you are so funny you bring tears to my eyes, you dense lil cucumber. lol

God love ya, because no one else will.

#212824 by CliffordN25
Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:08 pm
Starfish Scott wrote:Cliffy you are so funny you bring tears to my eyes, you dense lil cucumber. lol

God love ya, because no one else will.


Get a life you stupid troll. Seriously, you are not helping yourself by trolling me, or lecturing me. The time you spend typing up these posts, I couldv'e already been talking to some much nicer guys of any age who wouldv'e been willing to stick by me, and who are much more willing to understand and relate to what I'm looking for, and who take the time to listen to me.

Guys like you need to learn to relax, and use good wisdom when responding, and not get so hot-headed when you come across someone who's looking for something a bit different than you are.

I should also point out that I don't hate anyone here. However, I do hate the behaviors I'm seeing. This thread wouldn't have so many posts in it if people didn't respond so trollishly, and used a lot more common sense before they responded. For example, the person responding checking to see if we enjoy the same music, and have similar goals, rather than getting the attention of people who just throw out something on a whim with no consideration whatsoever.
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#212825 by CliffordN25
Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:13 pm
Now, with that out of the way, let's not get distracted. Where are the nicer guys who are willing to share their knowledge of other free music websites where I can create a profile, and that have a good forum to talk on, and where I can freely message anyone without having to sign up for a special service.

And please, do not let my complaining bother you, and do not get distracted by me trying to fight off these trolls.

I do not want to see anymore trollish posts.

#212829 by CliffordN25
Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:36 pm
Here's another thing that really aggravates me. On any music site or ad posting site, I run into or get responses from individuals who are too macho for pop and soft rock. By that, I mean, the given person wants to form a hard rock, or metal band, to try to impress their guy friends, or impress their girlfriend or wife, and who love going to bars every week to get drunk, and who are WAY to eager to get their music out, regardless of age.

#212830 by CliffordN25
Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:37 pm
jw123 wrote:Clifford I wish you luck in your quest, it takes tough skin.

All of us old timers are very territorial, and if someone doesnt fit in, then we all tend to turn on them.

BUT, just keep at it, hopefully you will connect with some like minded people!


And if you can't help, let's at least see more posts like the above, rather than posts like this:

Starfish Scott wrote:Cliffy you are so funny you bring tears to my eyes, you dense lil cucumber. lol

God love ya, because no one else will.


By the way, you know what's sad about people who leave posts like that? They don't even indicate whether they are just having a bad day, miss understood something, are offended by something I said or are just confused. Heck, for all I know, they could be jealous of what path I'm pursuing compared to the path they pursued. And on top of that, they don't even come back and TRULY apologize. Especially when I tell them what they are doing is only hurting them.

I ran into too much of the same behaviors on Baton Rouge Rocks as well: macho guys who love heavy rock, blues, and metal and who think it's cool to mess with someone who likes pop and soft rock.

#212834 by CliffordN25
Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:13 pm
Here's another thing that I don't fully understand. Why is it whenever I point out some general suggestions on what I'm looking for, those factors are completely ignored by the person who responds, and the person reccommends something that is far from helping me achieve my goal?

An example is when I was here last year, and posed a similar question, and was reccommended to sites that were good music sites for the person, but lacked an active Baton Rouge section, or the site didn't recognize pop music as a genre, or it didn't have a forum to go with it or the site was aimed at musicians who need to have a record deal.

Another example is when I was on Baton Rouge Rocks, and pointed out that I'd like to talk with guys in their 20s who play for enjoyment and have a passion for the music I enjoy, and instead reached individuals who were your macho hard rocker who was playing music to try to impress his girlfirned and frequents bars and clubs for drinking.

#212852 by Jahva
Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:29 pm
Uhhhgggg....

Cliffe the posters that have responded to you have tried to help over and over.
If the collection of professionals- amateurs here can't help you... and for well over a year no one else is responding... what makes you think what you are looking for even exists?
Or better yet that it exists where you live?
As persistent as you seem to be if it did exist... don't you think you would have found it already?
Time to find a new Hobby and go pollute some other site.

Yeah this is a free site and everyone is welcome unless the Admin. says otherwise... just be glad you have a place to communicate with other people who love music. At least some gave an honest attempt to help.
Even those you now call trolls gave you some effort one time or another.
You're at best insincere or maybe dishonest and don't deserve any more attention or help!
So pizz off!

#212856 by CliffordN25
Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:25 pm
Jahva wrote:Uhhhgggg....

Cliffe the posters that have responded to you have tried to help over and over.
If the collection of professionals- amateurs here can't help you... and for well over a year no one else is responding... what makes you think what you are looking for even exists?
Or better yet that it exists where you live?
As persistent as you seem to be if it did exist... don't you think you would have found it already?
Time to find a new Hobby and go pollute some other site.

Yeah this is a free site and everyone is welcome unless the Admin. says otherwise... just be glad you have a place to communicate with other people who love music. At least some gave an honest attempt to help.
Even those you now call trolls gave you some effort one time or another.
You're at best insincere or maybe dishonest and don't deserve any more attention or help!
So pizz off!


Again with the angry and dickish responses. Never say "time to find a new hobby" or people telling me that I'm being dishonest, or whatever, when that person was the one who didn't make a wise decision.

And also just because no one has responded doesn't mean they don't exist in my area. Have you ever thought that maybe the people I'm looking for may not even use know about or use Craigslist, or Baton Rouge Rocks, or Bandmix?

And also the people who have tried to help in the past or present, again, didn't put enough effort into trying to find something good. They would either reccommend something cheap, or reccommend something that was aimed at professionals. And whenever I would point out that their given suggestion wasn't going t work for me, instead of agreeing with me, that given person would get butt hurt for no reason and start acusing me of making excuses, and lecturing me.

#212857 by CliffordN25
Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:27 pm
With that said, let's actually see some progress. Where are the guys who are the direct opposite of Jahva, GuitarMikeB, Paperdog, and Starfish Scott? Guys who are not only willing to give out good suggestions, but who will actually listen to me, and not acuse me of making excuses, and insulting me in the same post where they encourage me.

I am SORRY if my persistence bothers you, and I am sorry if my complaining bothers you, but one of the main problems I've been having in this search is NOT having enough variety of places to advertise what I'm looking for, AND communicate with others, especially those in my area who have a passion for pop and soft rock music.

#212859 by CliffordN25
Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:36 pm
Jahva wrote:Uhhhgggg....

Cliffe the posters that have responded to you have tried to help over and over.
If the collection of professionals- amateurs here can't help you... and for well over a year no one else is responding... what makes you think what you are looking for even exists? Or better yet that it exists where you live?
As persistent as you seem to be if it did exist... don't you think you would have found it already?
Time to find a new Hobby and go pollute some other site.

Yeah this is a free site and everyone is welcome unless the Admin. says otherwise... just be glad you have a place to communicate with other people who love music. At least some gave an honest attempt to help.
Even those you now call trolls gave you some effort one time or another.
You're at best insincere or maybe dishonest and don't deserve any more attention or help!
So pizz off!


Answering the question in bold:

In the case of this site and in the general case of finding a direct music buddy:, people like me who don't have premier membership and thus cannot respond. What about people who may be signed up on this site, but who don't use the forums? Also the aforementioned people who may not feel comfortable using Baton Rouge Rocks, Craigslist or Bandmix.

In the case of finding some individuals to talk to in general who can steer me to more appropriate sites, maybe the person is shy. Maybe the person I'm trying to reach is chased off by the likes of people insulting me. Maybe the person I'm trying to reach WOULD be here and feels the same way I do about the whole premier membership thing, and thus doesn't sign up. I could go on and on. For example, a lot of the people who use Craigslist, and Baton Rouge Rocks are macho tough guy rockers, rather than your sensitive sappy, but still strong singer/songwriter, which a lot of people here and on Baton Rouge Rocks and Craigslist consider to be gay.

Also you've got your individuals who are gullible and who will believe rumors that fly around on the net. For example, there were times on Baton Rouge Rocks and on this site when a simple missunderstanding would occur, and then the guy would make some rude comment about my behavior, and then the other guy would say something like "yeah, you should avoid him, he's just seeking attention" and then the next guy would say the same thing, instead of doing the right thing and coming to me to clear up a simple missunderstanding that was blown out of proportion.

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